Game 1 (AZ 18 SD 17) Thoughts

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Man---I love the ASFN board on days after games---you guys and gals have every angle covered---and coming off of 3 hours of sleep and a full day's work, it's great to come home and see everyone making great point about the game. I will just hope to add my own two cents:

1. This was the best game I have ever seen Carson Palmer play. I just love his effort, toughness and determination in this game. And I was so impressed with SD's secondary and how they get after the QB---nothing was easy. But, I think it is fitting that it was Kurt Warner night at the U of P, because Carson Palmer took a page out of Warner's book and tried to exploit the best matchups he had on the field...which in this game meant keying on Michael Floyd, who was spectacular...and John Brown who was there at key times. Palmer improvised as well as I have ever seen him---he ran the ball, which was quite a surprise to SD.

2. As impressed as I am with Palmer, I am equally impressed with Todd Bowles' gutsy play calling---I don't think I have ever seen a Cardinals' defense go full house blitz late in a game three times and more in a row. I find it totally amazing that with all the blitzing the Cardinals did and with how hard they got after Philip Rivers that they never got a sack. But, they boxed Rivers in and made it very difficult for him to step into his throws---and I must say at times it didn't matter because Rivers has such an uncanny and unorthodox release---

3. Larry Foote---what a game. Talk about running downhill to the ball. He was a man out there---and it was very fitting that he finally was the one who got his hands up to deflect another sidearm flick from Rivers under duress to end the game.

4. Loved BA's use of the entire offensive roster---it's like a coach's dream come true when everyone plays and has earned a piece of the team's success---which is why I really have no interest in discussing Larry Fitzgerald, who I think is happy the team won. His body language never suggested otherwise last night---and like a true pro, he played hard right to the end. That fade pass to him was a work of art.

There were the negatives for sure---which everyone has pointed out---like trying to block the DEs with TEs who really can't handle good DEs.

I may be in the minority here but I thought the offensive line played a great game---they were much more physical than I thought they would be at this point in the season. They had better chemistry. Sure, Massie whiffed on a couple and even Veldheer had trouble with Dwight Freeney's outstanding spin move. But, hey, the battled their butts off, and earned this victory---how about their blocks on the John Brown TD? How about the job Ted Larsen did on Corey Liuget? How about how solid and physical Sendlein and Fanaika were?

I bet many of you worried about a punt block---Butler has a very good leg but he's a little too deliberate and long in his his stride---I think many of us saw that punt block before it happened.

Most of all---how about our own secondary---who dogged those SD WRs and TEs in Zero man coverage under the new no contact rules no less (we shouldn't under-estimate how much more pressure that puts on the DBs in shadow coverage)! I am so proud of those guys---they got after it big-time. I was hoping Bowles had a better matchup for Gates than Jefferson---but Jefferson played so hard I felt his contact flag which nullified his interception wasn't warranted---the contact was minimal and incidental---it surely wasn't a hold. But---these are the new rules we are dealing with, which makes their play down the stretch all the more inspiring.

The call of the night that irked me the most was the 3rd down conversion play where Ellington fought like a madman for that extra yard and a half and MADE IT to the chains at the 40 yard line, only the ref standing right beside the play kept marking the ball two yards behind the play when the whistle hadn't even blown yet. I mean what was that ref seeing and doing? Then he was the one to spot the ball.

For a game one---I thought BA and the coaches had the players very well prepared. Interesting that BA proclaimed the first 5 minutes of the 2nd half as the most critical and the defense did the unusual coming out of the tunnel and gave up a long TD drive on SD's first possession. But--when it mattered most the offense and the defense took charge and even finished the game off with Dwyer killing the clock (how many times have we seen a Cardinals' team do that in the 4th quarter?).

I don't know about you----but my adrenaline is still flowing. This game was so exciting and it defied the Cardinals' dubious MNF history. On a full moon where we hailed a recent star and welcomed in a brand new season with a stunning nightcap!

P.S. Love this kid Catanzaro---that's another thing---no mind-boggling gaffes on the kickoffs to ruin momentum!
 
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Man---I love the ASFN board on days after games---you guys and gals have every angle covered---and coming off of 3 hours of sleep and a full day's work, it's great to come home and see everyone making great point about the game. I will just hope to add my own two cents:

1. This was the best game I have ever seen Carson Palmer play. I just love his effort, toughness and determination in this game. And I was so impressed with SD's secondary and how they get after the QB---nothing was easy. But, I think it is fitting that it was Kurt Warner night at the U of P, because Carson Palmer took a page out of Warner's book and tried to exploit the best matchups he had on the field...which in this game meant keying on Michael Floyd, who was spectacular...and John Brown who was there at key times. Palmer improvised as well as I have ever seen him---he ran the ball, which was quite a surprise to SD.

2. As impressed as I am with Palmer, I am equally impressed with Todd Bowles' gutsy play calling---I don't think I have ever seen a Cardinals' defense go full house blitz late in a game three times and more in a row. I find it totally amazing that with all the blitzing the Cardinals did and with how hard they got after Philip Rivers that they never got a sack. But, they boxed Rivers in and made it very difficult for him to step into his throws---and I must say at times it didn't matter because Rivers has such an uncanny and unorthodox release---

3. Larry Foote---what a game. Talk about running downhill to the ball. He was a man out there---and it was very fitting that he finally was the one who got his hands up to deflect another sidearm flick from Rivers under duress to end the game.

4. Loved BA's use of the entire offensive roster---it's like a coach's dream come true when everyone plays and has earned a piece of the team's success---which is why I really have no interest in discussing Larry Fitzgerald, who I think is happy the team won. His body language never suggested otherwise last night---and like a true pro, he played hard right to the end. That fade pass to him was a work of art.

There were the negatives for sure---which everyone has pointed out---like trying to block the DEs with TEs who really can't handle good DEs.

I may be in the minority here but I thought the offensive line played a great game---they were much more physical than I thought they would be at this point in the season. They had better chemistry. Sure, Massie whiffed on a couple and even Veldheer had trouble with Dwight Freeney's outstanding spin move. But, hey, the battled their butts off, and earned this victory---how about their blocks on the John Brown TD? How about the job Ted Larsen did on Corey Liuget? How about how solid and physical Sendlein and Fanaika were?

I bet many of you worried about a punt block---Butler has a very good legs but he's a little too deliberate and long in his his slide---I think many of us saw that punt block before it happened.

Most of all---how about our own secondary---who dogged those SD WRs and TEs in Zero man coverage under the new no contact rules no less 9we shouldn't under-estimate how much more pressure that puts on the DBs in shadow coverage. I am so proud of those guys---they got after it big-time. I was hoping Bowles had a better matchup for Gates than Jefferson---but Jefferson played so hard I felt his contact flag which nullified his interception wasn't warranted---the contact was minimal and incidental---it surely wasn't a hold. But---these are the new rules we are dealing with, which makes their play down the stretch all the more inspiring.

The call of the night that irked me the most was the play where Ellington fought like a madman for that extra yard and a half and MADE IT to the 40 yard line, only the ref standing right beside the play kept marking the ball two yards behind the play when the whistle hadn't even blown yet. I mean what was that ref seeing and doing?

For a game one---I thought BA and the coaches had the players very well prepared. Interesting that BA proclaimed the first 5 minutes of the 2nd half as the most critical and the defense did the unusual coming out of the tunnel and gave up a long TD drive on SD's first possession. But--when it mattered most the offense and the defense took charge and even finished the game off with Dwyer killing the clock (how many times have we seen a Cardinals' team do that in the 4th quarter?).

I don't know about you----but my adrenaline is still flowing. This game was so exciting and it defied the Cardinals' dubious MNF history. On a full moon where we hailed a recent star and welcomed in a brand new season with a stunning nightcap!

P.S. Love this kid Catanzaro---that's another thing---no mind-boggling gaffes on the kickoffs to ruin momentum!

No mention of the crowd?? :D
Seriously though, I would say that was nearly as loud as the Philly playoff game! My ears are still ringing!

Sendlein was on Doug & Wolf this morning and referred to this o-line as "great"! Of course, the poor guy hasn't had much to compare this o-line to over his years with the Cards, however, it was very clear just how comfortable and supremely confident he feels about this version of our line!

I think there were 11 Cards who caught a pass from Palmer last night! Just awesome...
And how 'bout Palmer lowering his shoulder on one scramble, taking on the DB and losing his helmet in return! The guy has guts and heart for sure!
I think the Palmer to Carlson connection will continue to develop and will become a key feature to this offense as the season progresses.
And I think John Brown, in the very first game of the season, showed just how shrewd BASK & Co are when it comes to talent evaluating. His TD catch and run was simply off the hook spectacular!
 

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Mitch, to pick out one of your points, the call on Ellington's effort to get a first down and the ref placed it back about a yard. I couldn't believe it until they showed a replay, which showed AE's knee on the ground (at least touching the ground) indicating that the call was correct. Go back and look at it again, and let me know what you think.
 

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I as you were impressed in many areas. I would like to mention that everyone of our backs took part and contributed. Palmer is playing in slow mo. He sees things quickly and the 12 for 13 in the fourth quarter spreading it out to everyone on the team it appeared. Can't wait till Sunday.

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The call of the night that irked me the most was the 3rd down conversion play where Ellington fought like a madman for that extra yard and a half and MADE IT to the chains at the 40 yard line, only the ref standing right beside the play kept marking the ball two yards behind the play when the whistle hadn't even blown yet. I mean what was that ref seeing and doing? Then he was the one to spot the ball.

I was irked by that as well initially because it looked like Ellington had the forward progress of the ball much closer to the first down marker than the spot gave him credit for. But then saw an angle where it looked like his knee touched which would have put him back where they marked it. Didn't go back and check because the announcers didn't mention it and the Cards didn't seem like they were going to challenge so I can't say with certainty that it's what happened but I believe that is what happened.
 

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1. This was the best game I have ever seen Carson Palmer play. I just love his effort, toughness and determination in this game. And I was so impressed with SD's secondary and how they get after the QB---nothing was easy. But, I think it is fitting that it was Kurt Warner night at the U of P, because Carson Palmer took a page out of Warner's book and tried to exploit the best matchups he had on the field...which in this game meant keying on Michael Floyd, who was spectacular...and John Brown who was there at key times. Palmer improvised as well as I have ever seen him---he ran the ball, which was quite a surprise to SD.

How much have you seen him play? His early years in Cinci were as good as there was at the time. I have followed him back to USC and his decision making seems to have gotten worse over time.

With that said, this was one of his *better* games in a Cards uniform. He got lucky to only have one turnover in the game.
 

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I was irked by that as well initially because it looked like Ellington had the forward progress of the ball much closer to the first down marker than the spot gave him credit for. But then saw an angle where it looked like his knee touched which would have put him back where they marked it. Didn't go back and check because the announcers didn't mention it and the Cards didn't seem like they were going to challenge so I can't say with certainty that it's what happened but I believe that is what happened.

I was pretty adamant that his knee wasn't down but after the replay, it looked down to me, barely.
 

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The one turnover dream is not on Palmer IMO, I believe massive straight missed his block and Palmer was blindsided that fumble not on him.
 

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My favorite part about that place was when Ellington threw the guy off his back.

Me too. I also liked the mean look he gave on his 20+ yard run.
 

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The one turnover dream is not on Palmer IMO, I believe massive straight missed his block and Palmer was blindsided that fumble not on him.

I agree that it wasn't necessarily his fault. Massie got beat bad on that play, but he still seemed to hold onto the ball a bit too long there. He didn't climb the pocket. Nitpicky yes, I know.
 

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I thought BA had a very off night with his play calls in key situations. Didn't like the fade route to Brown, first 2 pt decision and the play calls for them. The motion wheel route to fitz and no emphasis on the run game in the first half.

Major kudos to taylor and Foote.
 
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I thought BA had a very off night with his play calls in key situations. Didn't like the fade route to Brown, first 2 pt decision and the play calls for them. The motion wheel route to fitz and no emphasis on the run game in the first half.

Major kudos to taylor and Foote.

I think the fade route to John Brown was actually a WR option play where Brown gets the DB to favor inside or out and then go opposite. The problem was in trying to juke Jason Verette, Verette stayed square, so Brown chose the fade and by then Carson Palmer, who has to react quickly on that play, threw it too far over the top.
 
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No mention of the crowd?? :D
Seriously though, I would say that was nearly as loud as the Philly playoff game! My ears are still ringing!

Sendlein was on Doug & Wolf this morning and referred to this o-line as "great"! Of course, the poor guy hasn't had much to compare this o-line to over his years with the Cards, however, it was very clear just how comfortable and supremely confident he feels about this version of our line!

I think there were 11 Cards who caught a pass from Palmer last night! Just awesome...
And how 'bout Palmer lowering his shoulder on one scramble, taking on the DB and losing his helmet in return! The guy has guts and heart for sure!
I think the Palmer to Carlson connection will continue to develop and will become a key feature to this offense as the season progresses.
And I think John Brown, in the very first game of the season, showed just how shrewd BASK & Co are when it comes to talent evaluating. His TD catch and run was simply off the hook spectacular!


I definitely noticed it on TV.
 

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The one turnover dream is not on Palmer IMO, I believe massive straight missed his block and Palmer was blindsided that fumble not on him.

Not sure if we are talking about the same play but the one where Palmer got stripped around the 25 by Freeney it was Carlson on an island vs Freeney. Dumb.

There was another play earlier where Massie got burnt, but I don't believe that led to a fumble.
 

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Although the rush didn't sack or hit Rivers much all game toward the end they got close enough to disrupt his timing and give no room for him to step up.

Carson was clutch and played a gutsy game for sure. It was agony watching the game and I was sure that the Chargers would get a last second FG to win it after all of that. BUT, the defense just kept blitzing and creating enough havoc to pull it out.

I will say that Rivers was victimized by his receivers dropping the ball. Could have been an ugly beat down if a couple of those were caught. Dodged a bullet a few times.

All of that said it was a WIN and that is what counts. Gritty performance by Foote, Ellington on a bad wheel, Carson showing his "moxie" and PP shutting down (for the most part) his man and how about Floyd...was he terrific! The defensive line stepped up pretty good when Abraham and Rucker went down.

The offensive line, despite a few lapses, did a pretty decent job as well. Still needs some improvement but they hung in there pretty good IMO.

What a game! I was so amped up when they went into the kneel down for the beat down of a pretty decent San Diego team.

Well done redbirds!
 

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Man---I love the ASFN board on days after games---you guys and gals have every angle covered---and coming off of 3 hours of sleep and a full day's work, it's great to come home and see everyone making great point about the game. I will just hope to add my own two cents:

1. This was the best game I have ever seen Carson Palmer play. I just love his effort, toughness and determination in this game. And I was so impressed with SD's secondary and how they get after the QB---nothing was easy. But, I think it is fitting that it was Kurt Warner night at the U of P, because Carson Palmer took a page out of Warner's book and tried to exploit the best matchups he had on the field...which in this game meant keying on Michael Floyd, who was spectacular...and John Brown who was there at key times. Palmer improvised as well as I have ever seen him---he ran the ball, which was quite a surprise to SD.

2. As impressed as I am with Palmer, I am equally impressed with Todd Bowles' gutsy play calling---I don't think I have ever seen a Cardinals' defense go full house blitz late in a game three times and more in a row. I find it totally amazing that with all the blitzing the Cardinals did and with how hard they got after Philip Rivers that they never got a sack. But, they boxed Rivers in and made it very difficult for him to step into his throws---and I must say at times it didn't matter because Rivers has such an uncanny and unorthodox release---

3. Larry Foote---what a game. Talk about running downhill to the ball. He was a man out there---and it was very fitting that he finally was the one who got his hands up to deflect another sidearm flick from Rivers under duress to end the game.

4. Loved BA's use of the entire offensive roster---it's like a coach's dream come true when everyone plays and has earned a piece of the team's success---which is why I really have no interest in discussing Larry Fitzgerald, who I think is happy the team won. His body language never suggested otherwise last night---and like a true pro, he played hard right to the end. That fade pass to him was a work of art.

There were the negatives for sure---which everyone has pointed out---like trying to block the DEs with TEs who really can't handle good DEs.

I may be in the minority here but I thought the offensive line played a great game---they were much more physical than I thought they would be at this point in the season. They had better chemistry. Sure, Massie whiffed on a couple and even Veldheer had trouble with Dwight Freeney's outstanding spin move. But, hey, the battled their butts off, and earned this victory---how about their blocks on the John Brown TD? How about the job Ted Larsen did on Corey Liuget? How about how solid and physical Sendlein and Fanaika were?

I bet many of you worried about a punt block---Butler has a very good leg but he's a little too deliberate and long in his his stride---I think many of us saw that punt block before it happened.

Most of all---how about our own secondary---who dogged those SD WRs and TEs in Zero man coverage under the new no contact rules no less (we shouldn't under-estimate how much more pressure that puts on the DBs in shadow coverage)! I am so proud of those guys---they got after it big-time. I was hoping Bowles had a better matchup for Gates than Jefferson---but Jefferson played so hard I felt his contact flag which nullified his interception wasn't warranted---the contact was minimal and incidental---it surely wasn't a hold. But---these are the new rules we are dealing with, which makes their play down the stretch all the more inspiring.

The call of the night that irked me the most was the 3rd down conversion play where Ellington fought like a madman for that extra yard and a half and MADE IT to the chains at the 40 yard line, only the ref standing right beside the play kept marking the ball two yards behind the play when the whistle hadn't even blown yet. I mean what was that ref seeing and doing? Then he was the one to spot the ball.

For a game one---I thought BA and the coaches had the players very well prepared. Interesting that BA proclaimed the first 5 minutes of the 2nd half as the most critical and the defense did the unusual coming out of the tunnel and gave up a long TD drive on SD's first possession. But--when it mattered most the offense and the defense took charge and even finished the game off with Dwyer killing the clock (how many times have we seen a Cardinals' team do that in the 4th quarter?).

I don't know about you----but my adrenaline is still flowing. This game was so exciting and it defied the Cardinals' dubious MNF history. On a full moon where we hailed a recent star and welcomed in a brand new season with a stunning nightcap!

P.S. Love this kid Catanzaro---that's another thing---no mind-boggling gaffes on the kickoffs to ruin momentum!
Carlson got used more than once, it was sad, he kept looking over at the tackles asking them about the the play, right before the hike. Brutal. The crowd was also intense though, I think we stalled some plays.
 

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Not sure if we are talking about the same play but the one where Palmer got stripped around the 25 by Freeney it was Carlson on an island vs Freeney. Dumb.

There was another play earlier where Massie got burnt, but I don't believe that led to a fumble.
I think you got it right vato.
 

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Speaking of kickoffs, what was your feeling on Ginn last night? At least he did make a big 3rd down grab. Man we're deep at wideout!

The refs need to make their calls earlier in games to establish what they're going to enforce. Make an emphasis early. That call on Jefferson was pure bunk, and almost cost us a shot at this game.

Great game by Foote and Palmer under great pressure.
 

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Speaking of kickoffs, what was your feeling on Ginn last night? At least he did make a big 3rd down grab. Man we're deep at wideout!

The refs need to make their calls earlier in games to establish what they're going to enforce. Make an emphasis early. That call on Jefferson was pure bunk, and almost cost us a shot at this game.

Great game by Foote and Palmer under great pressure.

He looks as if he has lost a step or two. He actually looked like he had a hole on the 8 yard line run back but he didn't cut and missed it. Shame. Less Ginn as a WR for me thanks.
 

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Speaking of kickoffs, what was your feeling on Ginn last night? At least he did make a big 3rd down grab. Man we're deep at wideout!

The refs need to make their calls earlier in games to establish what they're going to enforce. Make an emphasis early. That call on Jefferson was pure bunk, and almost cost us a shot at this game.

Great game by Foote and Palmer under great pressure.

Worse than Ginn's returns, his body manner just looks half assed. I think he came here expecting to at least be the #3 receiver, maybe he still thinks he should be. Everybody still talks about the valuable lesson of losing a valuable player to returns, but Ginn looked a lot happier and more enthusiastic when he was out there running receiver routes. The fair catches with no one near mixed with the opposite, bringing it out of the enzone 8 yards deep. I don't think he even wants the return job, or at least that what it looked like.
 

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Me too. I also liked the mean look he gave on his 20+ yard run.


No one has mentioned our new punter/kicker. All of his kickoffs were non returnable. Looks like a winner. Palmer looked like Warner 2.0 only he ran better.
 

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Me too. I also liked the mean look he gave on his 20+ yard run.


No one has mentioned our new punter/kicker. All of his kickoffs were non returnable. Looks like a winner. Palmer looked like Warner 2.0 only he ran better.
 
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