Game Analysis and Grades: CAR 35 AZ 10

Walter Mitchell

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Chalk this one up as one of the worst played and coached football games in recent Cardinal history. Let's just get right to the grades.

QB: F. Hideous performance by Shaun King. Period. Was totally out of sync with the offense from the get-go. Looks just as foggy eyed as Josh McCown. No life in his eyes and very little in his play. Forget the total yards. They are meaningless. King should have played like a veteran and should have been jacked out of his mind to finally have his chance to start. Instead, he played like a rookie.

RB: C-. Emmitt was fair, but was never really a factor in the game. The only RB who was a factor was Josh Scobey, who made a handful of nice plays.

OL: C-. The pass protection was decent and, at times, quite good. The run blocking was dreadful.

TE: D. Eric Edwards made a couple of nice catches. Freddie Jones was a no-show again until his 4th quarter pass over the middle. He's still a liability in the running game...but it didn't appear at all that he was guilty of holding on the Boldin TD.

WR: C-. Fitzgerald's drop on the first series (right in the numbers), set the poor tone for the day. He certainly made some nice plays later and his TD was outstanding. Boldin is playing on half throttle because of his rehabbed knee and, as a result, is not taking over games the way he is capable of. Johnson is a ghost (although I give him credit for his TD saving tackle on the int.). Karl Williams had a nice hat trick to start the second half...and was later wide open at the 15 yard line when the Cardinals had a chance to cut into the 28-7 lead.

DL: D. A step slow all day.

LB: F. Two steps slow all day. Levar Woods is not a game player. Never has been and never will be. Raynoch Thompson is a waste of talent.

DB: F. Bonehead penalties and non-existant deep safety help were the order of the day.

ST: C-. A tad below average all day.

Coaching: F. McCown has struggled, no question. A change at QB could have and should have occurred sooner than today. What is questionable, however, is deciding and announcing the change to Shaun King at the 11th hour. The decision and the announcement should have been early in the week and King should have been given the vast majority of snaps in practice. King looked unprepared. That's the bottom line. Anfd the coaching staff looked unprepared to cater the game plan to a smaller QB...one step drops were bound to be a problem for King, for example...and cost the offense a few early chances for drives.

The defensive planning was poor because it didn't focus on shutting down Carolina's one bona fide threat in Mushin Muhammed...who basically caught the ball at will most of the day.

The offensive play calling remains a major concern. First, the first quarter 3rd and 5 draw call that resulted in an embarrassing mixup with King going one way and Josh Scobey the other. Regardless of the mixup, it was a very questionable call. Similarly, when the Cardinals had momentum and looked like they were going to cut the score to 28-14, the sweep left call to Scobey on third and 6 was absolutely mystifying, especially with all the red zone mismatches to exploit with Fitz, Boldin and Johnson.

On the positive side, the Cardinals took more shots down field in this game than the other five previous ones. One must hope that this will continue and that King and the WRs will get in sync this week.

As for clock management. King may be worse than McCown. The team's two minute drill in the red zone...took two minutes to run three plays...and resulted in a easy interception. Again, King and the offense looked entirely unprepared.

Does Dennis Green really have "his" own offensive system?...the system he has called the best in football...a sure-fire Top 5 offense...as he predicted in the pre-season. Or...was Green profitting all those years in Minnesota from having offensive coordinators like Brien Billick???...the way Green is now profitting from having Clancy Pendergast as his defensive coordinator. There is nothing about this version of Green's offense...from the schemes, to the play calling that would suggest it's anything special. Or, is this offense really Alex Woods'? Don't be surprised if Green goes out and hires an experienced offensive coordinator this off-season....because he doesn't seem to have the answers himself.

Green also deserves to be scrutinized in this contest not only for the atrocious playcalling, but for his dubious in-game decisions. It was one thing to run a sweep to Scobey on third and 6 in the red zone...but then to kick a field goal on 4th and 2, down 21 points late in the third quarter, was pointless. Then, to punt early in the 4th quarter in Carolina territory down 18 points...was also pointless. The Cardinals had to march for TDs and take 4 downs to do it whenever possible. Field goals and punts become moot when the Panthers took a 28-0 lead into the locker room at halftime.
 

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I disagree with the poster about kicking the field goal behind 21. It cuts the lead to 18, which is 2 touchdowns, one 2 pt conversion, and 1 field goal. It also neutralizes a later field goal that Carolina could have gotten. If it was significantly into the 4th quarter, then yes I would agree, since 3 scores are still needed.
 

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Walter Mitchell said:
Coaching: F. McCown has struggled, no question. A change at QB could have and should have occurred sooner than today. What is questionable, however, is deciding and announcing the change to Shaun King at the 11th hour. The decision and the announcement should have been early in the week and King should have been given the vast majority of snaps in practice. King looked unprepared. That's the bottom line. Anfd the coaching staff looked unprepared to cater the game plan to a smaller QB...one step drops were bound to be a problem for King, for example...and cost the offense a few early chances for drives.

The defensive planning was poor because it didn't focus on shutting down Carolina's one bona fide threat in Mushin Muhammed...who basically caught the ball at will most of the day.

The offensive play calling remains a major concern. First, the first quarter 3rd and 5 draw call that resulted in an embarrassing mixup with King going one way and Josh Scobey the other. Regardless of the mixup, it was a very questionable call. Similarly, when the Cardinals had momentum and looked like they were going to cut the score to 28-14, the sweep left call to Scobey on third and 6 was absolutely mystifying, especially with all the red zone mismatches to exploit with Fitz, Boldin and Johnson.

On the positive side, the Cardinals took more shots down field in this game than the other five previous ones. One must hope that this will continue and that King and the WRs will get in sync this week.

As for clock management. King may be worse than McCown. The team's two minute drill in the red zone...took two minutes to run three plays...and resulted in a easy interception. Again, King and the offense looked entirely unprepared.

Does Dennis Green really have "his" own offensive system?...the system he has called the best in football...a sure-fire Top 5 offense...as he predicted in the pre-season. Or...was Green profitting all those years in Minnesota from having offensive coordinators like Brien Billick???...the way Green is now profitting from having Clancy Pendergast as his defensive coordinator. There is nothing about this version of Green's offense...from the schemes, to the play calling that would suggest it's anything special. Or, is this offense really Alex Woods'? Don't be surprised if Green goes out and hires an experienced offensive coordinator this off-season....because he doesn't seem to have the answers himself.

Green also deserves to be scrutinized in this contest not only for the atrocious playcalling, but for his dubious in-game decisions. It was one thing to run a sweep to Scobey on third and 6 in the red zone...but then to kick a field goal on 4th and 2, down 21 points late in the third quarter, was pointless. Then, to punt early in the 4th quarter in Carolina territory down 18 points...was also pointless. The Cardinals had to march for TDs and take 4 downs to do it whenever possible. Field goals and punts become moot when the Panthers took a 28-0 lead into the locker room at halftime.

HIDEOUS - Couldn't agree more. :hulk:
 

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Chalk this one up as one of the worst played and coached football games in recent Cardinal history. Let's just get right to the grades.

Does recent history only mean this year? Because we saw several worse than this just last season. :D

Or...was Green profitting all those years in Minnesota from having offensive coordinators like Brien Billick???

Considering that Billick's team has had ZERO offense for several years I'd have to say no.

Good grades though, the Cards really earned them.
 

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Duckjake said:
Chalk this one up as one of the worst played and coached football games in recent Cardinal history. Let's just get right to the grades.

Does recent history only mean this year? Because we saw several worse than this just last season. :D

Or...was Green profitting all those years in Minnesota from having offensive coordinators like Brien Billick???

Considering that Billick's team has had ZERO offense for several years I'd have to say no.

Good grades though, the Cards really earned them.

all the grades were earned but the idea that DG's "system" in Minnesota was not his own is pretty laughable IMO - see the reason above as one piece of evidence. Also notice that Green's offense was prolific BEFORE and AFTER Billick left.

He doesn't have what he needs on offense to run his system: namely a good speed RB, at least one speed WR and a good O-line. He's also saddled with TWO horrendous quarterbacks.
 

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LB: F. Two steps slow all day. Levar Woods is not a game player. Never has been and never will be. Raynoch Thompson is a waste of talent.
Substantiate that statement. Seems to me after a loss everyone around here likes to throw out wildly generalized statements. I guess it's far to easy to sit on your lazy boy and type disparaging comments.
 

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jvanhill said:
Substantiate that statement. Seems to me after a loss everyone around here likes to throw out wildly generalized statements. I guess it's far to easy to sit on your lazy boy and type disparaging comments.

Yeah I agree that it's not fair to call Thompson a waste of talent because RayT doesn't have any NFL talent. :D

I will say this for our guys they could have quit after the holding call erased Q's TD or after the last TD of the first half. But they didn't. Instead they came out and played a solid 3rd Quarter. :thumbup:
 
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Walter:

Thanks for the GREAT posting and grading of the Cards today.

You really took the words right out of my mouth, and a whole bunch of other posters too.
 

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DEfense played better in the second half limiting the Carolinas to 7 points. The run defense in the first quarter was horrid. The Pnathers had two weapons to move the ball the RB and the one WO. I lay part of this on our injuries and a bigger part on Pendergas. The play calling was awfull and once this team fell so far behind with recent history we were not going to score 28 plus points. We don't have the bulls to run that track.

Our strenght was our weakness today for two quarters and cost us this game.

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Seems to me after a loss everyone around here likes to throw out wildly generalized statements. I guess it's far to easy to sit on your lazy boy and type disparaging comments
- Down 28 - 0 at halftime. (That specific enough for you?)

- Or how about 11 first half penalties?

- Or 3 interceptions and 1 fumble lost (out of 5 committed by King)

- Or how about that incredible long TD run by that legendary speedster, Goings (a fullback for !@#$% sake!) who galloped around left end untouched by human hands.

- Or the number of times, King and his receivers were on different pages?

The Cards lost 35 to 10. That performance was disparaging to the fans and is getting what it deserves in the form of disparaging comments right back.

I actually thought Walter's comments were pretty objective, given the size and scope of yesterday's fiasco.

Is there hope? Yup. Should Dennis be fired? Nope. (His style is to make surprise moves and usually they work - but not always). Will he "look under the hood" and fix things? Probably.

But does that mean we fans shouldn't hold his feet to the fire for creating uncertainty on his team at the precise point in the season when it needed a sense of stability and a feeling of confidence.

 
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Thanks Gary...looking forward to your analysis, as always.

Jeff: You are a voice of wisdom on this board. Your reply was right on the money and was much appreciated.

It will be interesting to see what King will do this week (a) knowing he's the starter at the beginning of the week; (b) getting the majority of the snaps in practice. One thing he did pretty well was slipping the ball to the safety valve when he was avoiding sacks. Scobey made a couple of nice plays with a couple of King's dump offs. And I do like that King looks downfield more than McCown did. In the pre-season, King did a nice job moving the team between the 20's, but had trouble finishing drives off. Hopefully, King can rely on his big wideouts in the red zone, as McCown was doing.

Watching other QBs around the league...I notice a fire in some of their eyes and an energy, leadership level that I have yet to see in either McCown or King. What is it with Cardinal QBs?...even when Jake played here he looked dazed and confused most of the time.
 

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Walter Mitchell said:
Thanks Gary...looking forward to your analysis, as always.

Jeff: You are a voice of wisdom on this board. Your reply was right on the money and was much appreciated.

It will be interesting to see what King will do this week (a) knowing he's the starter at the beginning of the week; (b) getting the majority of the snaps in practice. One thing he did pretty well was slipping the ball to the safety valve when he was avoiding sacks. Scobey made a couple of nice plays with a couple of King's dump offs. And I do like that King looks downfield more than McCown did. In the pre-season, King did a nice job moving the team between the 20's, but had trouble finishing drives off. Hopefully, King can rely on his big wideouts in the red zone, as McCown was doing.

Watching other QBs around the league...I notice a fire in some of their eyes and an energy, leadership level that I have yet to see in either McCown or King. What is it with Cardinal QBs?...even when Jake played here he looked dazed and confused most of the time.


Dazed and confused, Oh I don't know maybe it's a lack of blocking and fear of death combined with WR's who take too long get seperation.

Jake never had a good QB mentor here but mostly did a lot on his own. Looking back he was never as good as we hoped for but wasn't used properly either.

That fire in the eyes goes out quick when you throw a 350lb lineman on it a few times.
 

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Dazed and confused, Oh I don't know maybe it's a lack of blocking and fear of death combined with WR's who take too long get seperation.

Jake never had a good QB mentor here but mostly did a lot on his own. Looking back he was never as good as we hoped for but wasn't used properly either.

That fire in the eyes goes out quick when you throw a 350lb lineman on it a few times.

Excellent points. Just look at the hits McCown and King took the last two weeks. Especially on McCown's scramble and the hit on King that forced the one fumble the team lost. On the latter the LB came in untouched at full speed and launched himself helmet first into the side of King's head. Most of us would be in the hospital after that to say nothing of dazed and confused.

And as for our WR's we have to remember that Fitzgerald still is probably feeling the effects of his high ankle sprain that Green said would not fully heal until the off season and Boldin is coming off a major knee injury.

In addition the COMBINED experience of our 3 top wideouts is only 5 years when most NFL people claim it takes 3 years for WR to really make an impact.

Hopefully as they fully recover from the injuries and gain more experience they'll get that separation and downfield speed the offense currently lacks.
 
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