Game of Thrones (HBO)

[Dback Jon]

Awesome article on a reveal in the Finale that nobody noticed. (No plot spoilers, but it shows how some details of the show have been hiding in plain sight all along)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/eye-opening-detail-last-night-191444928.html

Whoa!!

 

[Cheesebeef]

You guys really didn't see that? Far be it from me to go all Stout here , but Everyone in the room I watched with noticed that in the library.

 

[Dback Jon]

You guys really didn't see that? Far be it from me to go all Stout here , but Everyone in the room I watched with noticed that in the library.

I was too busy looking at the books

 

[MadCardDisease]

So sad that now I have to wait another year to get my GoT fix...

 

[oaken1]

I was too busy looking at the books

lol...so were we...the library was fascinating!

 

[oaken1]

So sad that now I have to wait another year to get my GoT fix...

read the books?? Supposed to be a new one at the end of the year....I think....

 

[Covert Rain]

You guys really didn't see that? Far be it from me to go all Stout here , but Everyone in the room I watched with noticed that in the library.

I have to be honest. I missed it the first time around. I had to re-watch that library scene a couple times because my daughter was having a meltdown. It was the second time it caught my eye and I flipped out a little.

 

[Chaplin]

read the books?? Supposed to be a new one at the end of the year....I think....

Good luck with that...

 

[Stout]

You guys really didn't see that? Far be it from me to go all Stout here , but Everyone in the room I watched with noticed that in the library.

C'mon...I've known it would be there since ep 1...of the series

 

[oaken1]

C'mon...I've known it would be there since ep 1...of the series

I remember seeing you predict it somewhere....oh,..here it is....







Quote: Stout

I am certain at some point there will be books in this series.






Knew I saw ya predict that somewhere!

 

[Covert Rain]

Here is the bigger question about the Chandelier thing. Was this just a clever placement in the library as a homage to the opening sequence or is this something that Martin told them would be important later and so it was made part of the opening sequence?

 

[Shaggy]

Spoiler

she is lyanna stark, neds sister and the woman Robert conquered the kingdom for...unfortunately she did not really want to be with Robert...she was in love with Raegar Targaryen... the Kaleesi's oldest brother....

So Jon Snow is Ned's Nephew and not son? So Jon Snow's parents are Lyanna Stark and Raegar Targaryen

 

[crisper57]

So Jon Snow is Ned's Nephew and not son? So Jon Snow's parents are Lyanna Stark and Raegar Targaryen

Correct. Ironically it makes him less suitable for King of the North, yet it strengthens his claim to the Iron Throne. Potentially even stronger than Dany (depending on Westerosi marriage laws). Raegar was married to the Viper's sister when he ran away with Lyanna, so Jon should still be a bastard, but he'd be the living male descendent of the last true male heir in the Targaryen line.

Unless the tv show is really screwing with us. They haven't explicitly stated who the true father is, but this is the most famous theory fans have had for the better part of 2 decades.

 

[Stout]

Correct. Ironically it makes him less suitable for King of the North, yet it strengthens his claim to the Iron Throne. Potentially even stronger than Dany (depending on Westerosi marriage laws). Raegar was married to the Viper's sister when he ran away with Lyanna, so Jon should still be a bastard, but he'd be the living male descendent of the last true male heir in the Targaryen line.

Unless the tv show is really screwing with us. They haven't explicitly stated who the true father is, but this is the most famous theory fans have had for the better part of 2 decades.

That's why the whole whisper that couldn't be heard thing was such a cop-out. Still, the way they cut to the next scene made it abundantly clear: R + L = J

 

[crisper57]

That's why the whole whisper that couldn't be heard thing was such a cop-out. Still, the way they cut to the next scene made it abundantly clear: R + L = J

I also assumed the whisper was to hide Jon's real name for a bit longer so that maybe the audience will learn it at the same time he does.

 

[Cheesebeef]

That's why the whole whisper that couldn't be heard thing was such a cop-out. Still, the way they cut to the next scene made it abundantly clear: R + L = J

Yeah... The whisper thing was lame.

 

[Shaggy]

So then why did Ned and Raegar fight outside of Tower of Joy? Was that Raegar Targaryen that he ended up killing?

 

[Hoop Head]

So then why did Ned and Raegar fight outside of Tower of Joy? Was that Raegar Targaryen that he ended up killing?

He fought Arthur Dayne and some Kingsguard members that Rhaegar sent to guard the tower. Rhaegar was busy getting his chest caved in at the Trident by Robert's Warhammer.

 

[Shaggy]

Ok, why was Ned there then at that Tower? Did he feel his sister was endanger there or did Robert send him to get her?

 

[slinslin]

Ok, why was Ned there then at that Tower? Did he feel his sister was endanger there or did Robert send him to get her?

His sister ran away with Raegar but was promised to Robert. He was sent to rescue her.

Epic episode, my only complain is that I dont get how Cersei gets to be Queen again. Why? How? Who follows her?

Cersei's death cant come soon enough.

And I can't wait for Jons origin to be revealed, though I wonder how that could happen.

Spoiler: caitlyn

wasn't caitlyn stark revived in the books by the red priests?!

 

[Hoop Head]

Epic episode, my only complain is that I dont get how Cersei gets to be Queen again. Why? How? Who follows her?

This is something I read early in the season, well before Tommen's death. It explains who his successor would be, which is actually Cersei.

http://mashable.com/2016/05/03/game-thrones-heir/#JiwZ0p87Kuqi

 

[Chaplin]

His sister ran away with Raegar but was promised to Robert. He was sent to rescue her.

The real question is if Raegar kidnapped her or she went willingly. There are proponents of both theories.

Spoiler: caitlyn

wasn't caitlyn stark revived in the books by the red priests?!

Yes, but for all intents and purposes, that won't be happening in the show--she was resurrected as "Lady Stoneheart". And the producers, as well as events in the show, have pretty much ruled her out as appearing.

 

[Covert Rain]

The real question is if Raegar kidnapped her or she went willingly. There are proponents of both theories.

Yes, but for all intents and purposes, that won't be happening in the show--she was resurrected as "Lady Stoneheart". And the producers, as well as events in the show, have pretty much ruled her out as appearing.

I think I also read the actress is committed to other projects for the foreseeable future and the writers already told her that her story arc was over. Sounds like it isn't happening.

 

[Dback Jon]

Spoiler: Three Dragons need three riders

So, it is now confirmed that the mothers of:
Dani, Tyrion and Jon Snow all died in child birth.

Dani and Jon Snow are confirmed to have Targaryen parentage.
Tyrion is the only person, other than Dani that the other two dragons seem to listen too.
Aerys (the Mad King) had a thing for Tyrion's mom. Could he be a Targaryen as well?

 

[Chaplin]

Spoiler: Three Dragons need three riders

So, it is now confirmed that the mothers of:
Dani, Tyrion and Jon Snow all died in child birth.

Dani and Jon Snow are confirmed to have Targaryen parentage.
Tyrion is the only person, other than Dani that the other two dragons seem to listen too.
Aerys (the Mad King) had a thing for Tyrion's mom. Could he be a Targaryen as well?

Yes, that is the current (and new) theory.