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Someone on the board yesterday wrote that the Cardinals weren't losing for lack of effort.

I beg to disagree.

Effort manifests itself in three ways: (1) preparation; (2) physical effort; (3) mental sharpness.

The Cardinals for the past six weeks have failed in all three categories. I included the Miami game because the Cardinals were outplayed in that game and were fortunate to come away with the win. But that game in particular started a disturbing pattern---a pattern that I will discuss at the end of the post.

Preparation---

If you were watching the Seahawks' 28-7 victory over the Jets yesterday, you likely heard the NBC announcers allude to rookie QB Russell Wilson's exemplary game preparation, which begins immediately after each game on Sunday.

Wilson is handed a package of game tapes on the next opponent.

He studies them Sunday night and takes copious notes.

He looks for defensive trends---he examines the defensive personnel, their blitz packages and their cover schemes.

On Monday---he carefully examines the tapes of each of the opponents' last four games.

By Monday night he has written his own scouting report---which he shares and goes over with all of his offensive teammates---

By Wednesday he presents his teammates with a package of plays and audibles that he believes will work versus certain "looks" (formations and schemes).

This is exactly what Kurt Warner did when he took command of the Cardinals' offense.

The question is: is there evidence to suggest anyone in the Cardinals' facility has been doing the same since Warner retired?

The evidence suggests just the opposite.

At times it looks as if the Cardinals' coaches have just rolled out the exact same blueprint game after game.

If anything, it appears the opponents are so well versed and prepared for the Cardinals' offense that they know the plays before the ball is even snapped.

If we fans actually knew how little preparation Ken Whisenhunt and Mike Miller put into each game, I believe we would be outraged.

The tapes don't lie.

They tell you who is prepared and who is not.

What's even worse is that the Cardinals' lack of preparation has included not accounting for their greatest weaknesses---the inability of the offensive tackles to handle one on one assignments, and the tackle-guard tandem not being coached well enough to block a classic TEX stunt, where the DT steps hard to the outside to try to bring the guard with him, so that the DE can loop around to the inside and charge the vacated middle created when the guard chases the DT.

When the Cardinals are on offense---do you ever get the sense that they are consciously trying to exploit a weakness in the defense?

Or do you get the sense that the Cardinals just run their own stuff week after week, regardless of who the opponent is?

And finally, ever since Warner left the coaches have been lamenting "slow starts" on offense.

Why does this still remain the case, perhaps even worse now than ever?

For one, the head coach prefers to defer when winning the coin toss.

This strategy hasn't helped the offense one bit.

Then when the offense does get the ball---it's run left, run right and pass incomplete on 3rd and 9.

Running versus loaded boxes and passing versus loaded secondaries.

And when players go out and the personnel on the field changes---the same perfunctory play calls are made regardless of whatever the personnel is on the field---like trying to throw a flat pass to Reagan Maui'a on a critical 4th and 1...with the oppoenents' best CB covering, to boot.

Physical toughness---

It sure says something about the offense when the toughest player the past two games has been a a 5'7" 180 pound halfback.

It sure says something that safety Adrian Wilson who is supposed to be one of the team's toughest players merely throws a feeble shoulder toward Packers' WR Randall Cobb at the four yard line on a 4th and goal from the 14 yard line, which allowed Cobb to scamper into the endzone with ease.

Mental sharpness---

How can anyone explain Early Doucet dropping two perfectly thrown passes, both of which ended Cardinal drives.

How can anyone explain how a slow backup TE was able to run for a 75 yard TD untouched on a seam route up the middle. Just when the Cardinals had gotten within a TD, no less.

How can anyone explain how a punt goes right through both of Patrick Peterson's arms so badly that all the ball hit was his right thigh pad.

Slow starts?

When you watch the last six games---here's the pattern I alluded to in the beginning of the post---

The Cardinals are playing first half like it's the NBA.

You know, keep it slow and not turn the real burners on until the 4th quarter.

Well, in the NBA both teams tend to do it. They play 82 games after all.

But in the NFL? 16 games?

The Cardinals' offense just goes through the motions trying to feel the defense out and playing with no confidence or direction in the first half.

The Cardinals' defense was coming out stronger the first 3 games---but not anymore---they too a rolling through the motions---only in their case the DC makes adjustments at half-time and does his best to get the unit fired up.

The offense? Adjustments at half-time?

It took 8 1/4 games to just try another player at LT---how can one expect adjustments to be made at half-time?

This is the worst coached and most ill-prepared offense in the NFL.

And it's for lack of all three: preparation, physical toughness and mental sharpness.

And worse of all---the coaches take no blame whatsoever---it's always the players' fault for all the "missed opportunities."
 
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That is more conjecture then usual.

So they prepared for the Patriots and decided not to prepare for anyone else? Just not an idea you can sell to me in a league full of egotistical professionals with more pride then most of us have.
 
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So Russell Wilson is the Seahawks OC?

Check.

We don't prepare during the week?

Check.

Can't you just once admit you're wrong about Skelton? he's not the victim of awful coaching, he's just not a good NFL QB. Same with Kolb. Yes the OL sucks and the RB's are all hurt which is why the playcalling seems predictable. As a guy you really like, Gruden, said last week if you can't pass block I don't know what plays you can call on offense that work.Nobody is perfect and that includes this staff but it's not lack of preparation it's lack of talent at key positions and no matter how you try to spin it a big part of that problem is John Skelton isn't as good as you think he is.
 
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That is more conjecture then usual.

So they prepared for the Patriots and decided not to prepare for anyone else? Just not an idea you can sell to me in a league full of egotistical professionals with more pride then most of us have.

Actually---in case you missed it, the pattern I was referring to was over the past six weeks.

Furthermore---Ray Horton had been preparing his defense for that game since mini-camps. The players all said so.

The fact that it was Week 2 and that there wasn't a great deal of recent tape on Kolb and the reconfigured Cardinal offense made a huge difference as well.

And the reality is, the Cardinals got very lucky at the end when Gostkowski missed the field goal.
 

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That is more conjecture then usual.

So they prepared for the Patriots and decided not to prepare for anyone else? Just not an idea you can sell to me in a league full of egotistical professionals with more pride then most of us have.


No....We run the same sets and same offensive plays in all our games. The difference is...after 4 games...coaches figured us out..and we dont change. We run the same crap and Whiz thinks...just like how you answered this....is that it worked against NEW ENGLAND...it should work all the time. Whiz constantly says...we left alot of yards on the field. NO NO and NO!!....If we run the same crap over and over...it BECOMES HARDER TO EXECUTE THE PLAY. WR are not wide open so the ball has to be precisely thrown. Yes if we had Manning and Rodgers...alot of our short comings would be over looked because they are so accurate....Hence why Warner won here. We dont have the horses to keep running the same crap. The coaches have to out coach the other team with our offensive roster....and they cant coach.....that is why we have lost 5 straight....and now you know the rest of the story.
 

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Even more to prove my point. The Rams and Bills dominated us for the most part. We did come back and almost beat the Bills but definately not because of our Offense. But those 2 teams destroyed our offense...and neither 1 of them has won a game since!!!!! Yes the Rams tied San Francisco yesterday.....but the point is....We let bad teams beat us and rather easily. Someone should do a undercover story on "What coaches think of our team and offense" Like I would love sitting in the war room with the coaches as they prepare for our team. You could hear it in Grudens voice on that Monday night...that he was disgusted with our offense....He constantly said...wow we cant stop 4 rushers...and what are we doing....

Injuries are big but every team is going through them.....The Packers didnt have 3 of their top 4 WR when they played us and were down to their 3rd string RB!!! The Rams lost the top WR against us and Steven Jackson didnt play much. We still got waxed. CJ Spiller ran all over us and since that game has like 150 yards total in 5 games. We stink....the coaches are to blame for 95% of it....and the sad thing is.....Every team in our division is set up 500% better than we are. We may not win more than 5 games a year for the next 4 years unless something drastic happens.
 
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So Russell Wilson is the Seahawks OC?

Check.

We don't prepare during the week?

Check.

Can't you just once admit you're wrong about Skelton? he's not the victim of awful coaching, he's just not a good NFL QB. Same with Kolb. Yes the OL sucks and the RB's are all hurt which is why the playcalling seems predictable. As a guy you really like, Gruden, said last week if you can't pass block I don't know what plays you can call on offense that work.Nobody is perfect and that includes this staff but it's not lack of preparation it's lack of talent at key positions and no matter how you try to spin it a big part of that problem is John Skelton isn't as good as you think he is.

You are just like the coaches---you blame it all on the players.

Gruden also said that no QB could play well in this offense.

The play calling has been predictable for years---not just this year.

The offensive line play has been bad for years---even when Warner was here.

The running game has been sporadic and inconsistent at best for years, not just this year.

It's painful to watch...especially when so little changes.

As for Skelton---I appreciate his courage and his resiliency---and I don't think we will really know how good he can be until he gets the proper coaching and supporting cast.

In Skelton I see a big, strong-armed QB who doesn't play scared. I thought his accuracy versus GB was very good---

IN CKW and Mike Miller I see them as under-prepared, conspicuously predictable and hyper-critical. I don't see how they could build anyone's confidence or give anyone a sense of having a competitive edge versus the competition.

I still cannot possibly fathom how CKW hadn't even watched the Super Bowl tape as mini-camps began the next year---which he stated at that time.

I don't get the sense that he watches much tape at all. Possibly he's superstitious about watching tape. Not kidding.

In Russ Grimm I see a guy who really doesn't give two hoots probably because he's still miffed as to why a guy like Whisenhunt got a HC job and he didn't. Talk about lack of effort. This guy takes the cake.

Plus, can anyone explain exactly what the CKW offense is?

I can explain what the 49er offense is...easily.

Same with the Seahawks's now that Russell Wilson is defining it.

I know conceptually what they are trying to do and how they try to play to their strengths and the opponents' weaknesses---

But the Cardinals? Dink and dunk ad nauseum in a 20 yard rectangle is about the best as I can define it.

It worked when the dinker and dunker was Kurt Warner and he had figured out the timing with his WRs and the mismatches.
 

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The major problem from my viewpoint is a lack of talent on the offense. Other then Fitzgerald, I don't see any of the other offensive players starting for any other team. Additionally,OC Miller and OL Coach Grimm need to be replaced.
 

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Mitch, you say some here put all the blame on the players yet you put it all on the coaches. :bang:

The coaches deserve their share as well as the players. What about the stretch where this team won 11 out of 13 games? I'm assuming the coaches & players watched no film then either. This team (coaches & players) aren't without fault, but not too many teams recover from losing both starting OTs, top 2 RBs & it's best QB IMO for long periods of time!!! That's 4 major parts of a offense that lacks speed to keep defenses honest. What's wrong with this team isn't all on the coaches, it just isn't.
 

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I have a contact on Hardy Drive, and he's told me that not only is the parking lot completely empty after 4 p.m. except for John Skelton's truck, but also that from Monday through Thursday there's a huge bump in the Farmville usage at the Cardinals complex.

He seems to think that the coaches are watching clock and running short days until the last minute on Friday, when they just Xerox the game plan from the Rams game, whiting out "vs. Rams" and writing the week's opponent in pencil on top of it.

:sarcasm:
 

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I have a contact on Hardy Drive, and he's told me that not only is the parking lot completely empty after 4 p.m. except for John Skelton's truck, but also that from Monday through Thursday there's a huge bump in the Farmville usage at the Cardinals complex.

He seems to think that the coaches are watching clock and running short days until the last minute on Friday, when they just Xerox the game plan from the Rams game, whiting out "vs. Rams" and writing the week's opponent in pencil on top of it.

:sarcasm:
I know someone familiar with the Cards who read the same things. He also said that the game plan will often include Xeroxed pictures of Whiz' bum and lyrics from random Springsteen songs.
 

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You are just like the coaches---you blame it all on the players.

Gruden also said that no QB could play well in this offense.

The play calling has been predictable for years---not just this year.

The offensive line play has been bad for years---even when Warner was here.

The running game has been sporadic and inconsistent at best for years, not just this year.

It's painful to watch...especially when so little changes.

As for Skelton---I appreciate his courage and his resiliency---and I don't think we will really know how good he can be until he gets the proper coaching and supporting cast.

In Skelton I see a big, strong-armed QB who doesn't play scared. I thought his accuracy versus GB was very good---

IN CKW and Mike Miller I see them as under-prepared, conspicuously predictable and hyper-critical. I don't see how they could build anyone's confidence or give anyone a sense of having a competitive edge versus the competition.

I still cannot possibly fathom how CKW hadn't even watched the Super Bowl tape as mini-camps began the next year---which he stated at that time.

I don't get the sense that he watches much tape at all. Possibly he's superstitious about watching tape. Not kidding.

In Russ Grimm I see a guy who really doesn't give two hoots probably because he's still miffed as to why a guy like Whisenhunt got a HC job and he didn't. Talk about lack of effort. This guy takes the cake.

Plus, can anyone explain exactly what the CKW offense is?

I can explain what the 49er offense is...easily.

Same with the Seahawks's now that Russell Wilson is defining it.

I know conceptually what they are trying to do and how they try to play to their strengths and the opponents' weaknesses---

But the Cardinals? Dink and dunk ad nauseum in a 20 yard rectangle is about the best as I can define it.

It worked when the dinker and dunker was Kurt Warner and he had figured out the timing with his WRs and the mismatches.

Gruden said it about the OL not the offense itself. He said with this OL they can't pass block so it's tough on the QB to succeed.

I don't like Grimm but I find it pretty hard to believe the OL is just sitting around during practice every day and nobody in the media reports it.

He's a bad OL coach imo, I want him gone, but I don't think it's lack of prep, it's that Batiste, who you raved bout, isn't an NFL player. Massie isn't read and the interior guys are all mediocre.

It's not coaching that made the OL and QB position bad it's talent, or a lack of it.

Whiz named Skelton the starter. he changed the offense to protect him when Kolb got hurt knowing that Skelton wasn't healthy. Yes a short drop passing attack is not ideal for Skelton but that's HIS weakness, he's got to get better at it because running a deeper drop offense is just going to mean sacks. We've seen that enough this year to know it's the truth.
 
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Even more to prove my point. The Rams and Bills dominated us for the most part. We did come back and almost beat the Bills but definately not because of our Offense. But those 2 teams destroyed our offense...and neither 1 of them has won a game since!!!!! Yes the Rams tied San Francisco yesterday.....but the point is....We let bad teams beat us and rather easily. Someone should do a undercover story on "What coaches think of our team and offense" Like I would love sitting in the war room with the coaches as they prepare for our team. You could hear it in Grudens voice on that Monday night...that he was disgusted with our offense....He constantly said...wow we cant stop 4 rushers...and what are we doing....

Injuries are big but every team is going through them.....The Packers didnt have 3 of their top 4 WR when they played us and were down to their 3rd string RB!!! The Rams lost the top WR against us and Steven Jackson didnt play much. We still got waxed. CJ Spiller ran all over us and since that game has like 150 yards total in 5 games. We stink....the coaches are to blame for 95% of it....and the sad thing is.....Every team in our division is set up 500% better than we are. We may not win more than 5 games a year for the next 4 years unless something drastic happens.

You make a great point, Campo, about the rest of the division---

What the 49ers, Seahawks and Rams have that the Cardinals don't:

1. Running games.
2. QBs they are confident in.
3. Defenses that can pressure with 4 rushers.
4. Defenses that are stouter versus the run.
5. Kicking games that can make the difference.
6. FO's that try to make the right personnel fits.

The Cardinals' defense---as much as TV commentators are calling this defense "very good"---it's actually a defense that relies more on smoke and mirrors than just plain, good old defensive play.

I would bet that if Ray Horton could speak to us candidly, he would tell us that he is hampered by the FO's lack of attention to finding the right fits for the system.

Cases in point:

1. Darnell Dockett---he is at his best when it's his job to penetrate the defense. His game is predicated on quickness---which is nullified when he is asked to occupy his blockers at the POA (point of attack). His best fit? Under-tackle in the 43.

2. Calais Campbell---because of his height, he too has a tough time being an occupier, especially when he gets down blocked on a double team. But, he's such a good athlete and competitor that he will work hard to make anything he does work.

3. O'Brien Schofield---is nowhere near as strong on his feet as he needs to be at SOLB---he's a WOLB playing out of position.

4. Adrian Wilson---it wasn't by fluke that the best defensive game the Cardinals have played this year was with Wilson on the sidelines. He's not a tackler---he's a thumper. He's also is a liability in space. This hurts the effectiveness of the defense in two very important areas.

5. Kerry Rhodes---played his best game at SS when Wilson was out. He looks far more aggressive and instinctive when he plays up. He's a sub par tackler in space....where he doesn't play with the type of suddenness the system needs.

6. William Gay---hasn't been the physical kind of CB/NB the Cardinals had with Richard Marshall, whom Horton said was the defensive MVP last year and the FO said no we are not going to pay.

That's more than half the starters right there---
 

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I have a contact on Hardy Drive, and he's told me that not only is the parking lot completely empty after 4 p.m. except for John Skelton's truck, but also that from Monday through Thursday there's a huge bump in the Farmville usage at the Cardinals complex.

He seems to think that the coaches are watching clock and running short days until the last minute on Friday, when they just Xerox the game plan from the Rams game, whiting out "vs. Rams" and writing the week's opponent in pencil on top of it.

:sarcasm:

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Gruden said it about the OL not the offense itself. He said with this OL they can't pass block so it's tough on the QB to succeed.

I don't like Grimm but I find it pretty hard to believe the OL is just sitting around during practice every day and nobody in the media reports it.

He's a bad OL coach imo, I want him gone, but I don't think it's lack of prep, it's that Batiste, who you raved bout, isn't an NFL player. Massie isn't read and the interior guys are all mediocre.

It's not coaching that made the OL and QB position bad it's talent, or a lack of it.

Whiz named Skelton the starter. he changed the offense to protect him when Kolb got hurt knowing that Skelton wasn't healthy. Yes a short drop passing attack is not ideal for Skelton but that's HIS weakness, he's got to get better at it because running a deeper drop offense is just going to mean sacks. We've seen that enough this year to know it's the truth.

I was wrong about Batiste.

His good LT play in the 2011 pre-season had me encouraged---but even then I acknowledged that it was against 2nd and 3rd teamers.

But what's amazing to me was he showed excellent technique as a fan blocker then---this year his technique has been awful.

Skelton is not the classic dinker and dunker as you say---and he has been trying to get better at it. At least, however, he threw deep three times versus GB, completing 2 of them to Roberts and to Floyd.
 

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That is more conjecture then usual.

So they prepared for the Patriots and decided not to prepare for anyone else? Just not an idea you can sell to me in a league full of egotistical professionals with more pride then most of us have.

The Cards beat New England only because of the replacement refs. New England is 5-1 since the regular refs came back. Because we all know that no bad team has ever upset a top team in the history of the NFL.

As for the offense its more than just this year's injuries. The Cards have failed to score 20 points or more in 20 of their last 41 games. If you took out defensive and special teams scores it would be even worse for the offense.
 
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The Cards beat New England only because of the replacement refs. New England is 5-1 since the regular refs came back. Because we all know that no bad team has ever upset a top team in the history of the NFL.

A team that was 36-2 (Or Something like that at the time) at home and we beat them because of the replacements refs? On a early game East coast road trip. All add up to odds that replacement refs are not enough to overcome for it to just be a coincidence. Not giving credit where credit is due me thinks. No one was saying that at the time, but hindsight is 20/20 I guess.
 
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A team that was 36-2 (Or Something like that at the time) at home and we beat them because of the replacements refs? On a early game East coast road trip. All add up to odds that replacement refs are not enough to overcome for it to just be a coincidence. Not giving credit where credit is due me thinks. No one was saying that at the time, but hindsight is 20/20 I guess.

I will say this, that was the game where I REALLY noticed how much Batiste was actually holding. Chandler Jones was going nuts about it but I think at most they called it once. He was holding Jones on every pass play, every one.

I pointed it out on the game thread for that game and several others immediately said yeah I am seeing the same thing I'm amazed he's getting away with it.
 

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I have a contact on Hardy Drive, and he's told me that not only is the parking lot completely empty after 4 p.m. except for John Skelton's truck, but also that from Monday through Thursday there's a huge bump in the Farmville usage at the Cardinals complex.

He seems to think that the coaches are watching clock and running short days until the last minute on Friday, when they just Xerox the game plan from the Rams game, whiting out "vs. Rams" and writing the week's opponent in pencil on top of it.

:sarcasm:

That is not true at all. Farmville usage actually goes down during the week because they are all using John Lotts sand pit outside as a horse shoe competition arena.

They haven't put in that covered practice facility thing yet because they are still getting Bocce Ball court bids. They haven't found one they like yet.
 

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This is a ridiculous thread. Our offense is terrible, and if your offensive personnel can't do the basic things right how much do you think you can adjust week to week? Seriously, if you can't block a dive play, how can you expect to put in custom plays for a specific opponent? Blame the organization for having poor offensive personnel, but this thread's reasoning is just grasping at straws and stupid.
 

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No....We run the same sets and same offensive plays in all our games. The difference is...after 4 games...coaches figured us out..and we dont change.

I would really enjoy the breakdown of all of those same plays and formations you speak of. If it is as you say it is then it should be a pretty easy task and something pretty easy to prove.
 

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Focus? Game prep?

I don't know if I can knock the club for this or how common it is in the NFL but the Cardinal plane rides seem to be a bunch of good times. I heard this earlier this year (and it wasn't from my Moore source :D), I guess the Cards gives every team player/employee money (at the airport) when they are departing for away games.

So the word is, most of the veteran players throw "flying per diems" in together, and then they draw jersey numbers to see who gets the whole shibango. I think the number was $400 apiece...winner take all.

After losing 5 sraight... I'd like to see some changes made by Coach.
 

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I don't know if I can knock the club for this or how common it is in the NFL but the Cardinal plane rides seem to be a bunch of good times. I heard this earlier this year (and it wasn't from my Moore source :D), I guess the Cards gives every team player/employee money (at the airport) when they are departing for away games.

It is called a per deim, and ever single player in the NFL on a road trip gets it. Its in the NFLPA contract.

Every team in the NFL does the same thing with their per diems, on the plane in some fashion or another, be it raffle, betting, or stupid stunts/dares.
 

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It is called a per deim, and ever single player in the NFL on a road trip gets it. Its in the NFLPA contract.

Every team in the NFL does the same thing with their per diems, on the plane in some fashion or another, be it raffle, betting, or stupid stunts/dares.
Rampant gambling instead of preparation. Turrible.
 

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It is called a per deim, and ever single player in the NFL on a road trip gets it. Its in the NFLPA contract.

Every team in the NFL does the same thing with their per diems, on the plane in some fashion or another, be it raffle, betting, or stupid stunts/dares.
That's cool, I figured other teams probably do it too. But I do wish our plain rides were a bit more serious from the get. 0-5, need to quit all the BS and get back to basics IMO.
 

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