Gameday thread Cardinals at Vikings 11-20-16

[AZCrazy]

I'm not sure Watford didn't get benched.

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He may well have been. There was no mention of it, and he was on his butt an uncomfortable amount of time today. Grrrrrr...

 

[WisconsinCard]

I love the "he started it" excuse.

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He's the same dude that last year said if he saw me in a bar he would punch me in the face. So he's probably a 5'6 and liquor makes him 10' tall and bullet proof. I bet if he saw me in a bar he wouldn't even say hi to me without it ending in "SIR".

 

[Chopper0080]

Our wide receiver and o line play has regressed also. Scares me to think of not having an NFL quality QB back there.

Yes. The offensive line play can be argued that it is due to injury. The wide receiver play is scary. Brown and Nelson struggling takes even more shine off of Keim's drafts.

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[WisconsinCard]

Yes. The offensive line play can be argued that it is due to injury. The wide receiver play is scary. Brown and Nelson struggling takes even more shine off of Keim's drafts.

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I think you said it perfectly when you stated that they are just to small to take the NFL grind.

 

[Buckybird]

I'm not sure Watford didn't get benched.

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I agree I think that's what indeed happened

 

[Shaggy]

I'm shocked you have such good reception from your mom's basement. Keep eating those boogers bro.

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You need to stop.

 

[justAndy]

Hey! We're frustrated. Everybody stop with the threats and name calling

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[RON_IN_OC]

Yes. The offensive line play can be argued that it is due to injury. The wide receiver play is scary. Brown and Nelson struggling takes even more shine off of Keim's drafts.

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I've said it before...Floyd's issues have been the biggest downfall for the team. The smaller receivers need to be able to play in space, not bump and run...Floyd and Fitz need to take the double teams and clear space for Brown and Nelson to run free.

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[wit3card]

I don't get it, the O-line plays poor, 5 targets to floys 2 he catches 2 aren't catchable... k but how Brown and Nelson get the same amount of targets and produce 0 yards ... is beyonde me ...

How we throw in double and tripple coeverage ... is beyond me, why we throw when the o-line seems to runblock quite well ... even more.

Brown not fair catching ... oh gosh, like I said, I think season is over. And without a coaching change I don't see change at all.

All our O-line was Veteran FA driven, Valdaheer - Iiupati - Mathis our own products seem way below always, Shipley and Humphries.

So I start to ask myself if our O-line coach isn't able to develope guys that can pass protect. But I had the same problem to recognize it with Grimm in the first 2-3 years too when Warner did the magic ... don't know it yet(and yes then I never saw a really great O-line but a belowe average to serviceable O-line).

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

We could've drafted Prescott. Unreal.

I think the dui did him in for the cards. But, yes, it's crazy this team didn't target a QBOF when our starter is almost 40.

 

[Chopper0080]

The issue is where do our answers on offense come from? Floyd. Gone. John Brown. Limited. Nelson. Even more limited. Fitz. Old. Palmer. Old. Gresham. FA. Shipley. FA. Boehm. Can't beat out Shipley. Mathis. Retiring. Watford. Benched and FA. Humphries. 5 yards down field on pass plays.

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[Chopper0080]

You almost go into the off-season with Veldheer, Iupati, and David Johnson.

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[wit3card]

The issue is where do our answers on offense come from? Floyd. Gone. John Brown. Limited. Nelson. Even more limited. Fitz. Old. Palmer. Old. Gresham. FA. Shipley. FA. Boehm. Can't beat out Shipley. Mathis. Retiring. Watford. Benched and FA. Humphries. 5 yards down field on pass plays.

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We have to hope that Valdaheer and Iiupati stay at least 2-3 year than the left side is at least settled even Iiupati isn't a good pass pro LG but than Humphries ... isn't looking like a first rounder, maybe he need 1 year to get better but for now ... he isn't good, on some games he is servicable, today in first half he was great runblocking but pass pro only okayish that would have been fine if the 2nd half he wouldn't regressed so much.

Center an RG have to be someone new ... than we need a QB, at least 2 WR and a RB behind DJ that can take a bit of a load since CJ will not resign here.

And on D we need an #2 CB and an ILB maybe even 2 ILB and if CC goes a DE and a DT or a NT/DT Hybrid player. But that would need 10 starter, not some backups or guys that can start in 2-3 years no 10 Starters from Draft and FA.

And Chandler has to be payed and Golden will want to be payed ...

 

[Covert Rain]

Some of you are trying to pin the tail on one aspect of our team. I think it's time to face reality this team has several issues right now. Unfortunately, those issues are firing on all cylinders at the same time. Not sure how we fix them either mid-season. It's like putting duck tape on a boat full of holes.