Lions at Cardinals gameday thread 9-22-24

[BirdGangThing]

we should hold them scoreless in the second half

and we did too

 

[BritCard]

The defense isn't good, so yes, holding a team to 20--and especially scoring (though we were cheated of the score) is real gravy. That said, the D set the O up for failure time after time after time. Score isn't indicative of everything. But, I was expecting the D to be like this, as Monti did very little to fix it, so it is what it is.

How did it set them up to fail?

The D gave them the ball on the 35. They had a legit pick 6 robbed off them. Turned them over on downs twice and held them to 98 total yards on the first 6 drives of the 2nd half, with which our offense said "Thanks defense now let's punt, turnover on downs, punt, turnover on downs, punt and field goal".

 

[kerouac9]

How did it set them up to fail?

The D gave them the ball on the 35. They had a legit pick 6 robbed off them. Turned them over on downs twice and held them to 98 total yards on the first 6 drives of the 2nd half, with which our offense said "Thanks defense now let's punt, turnover on downs, punt, turnover on downs, punt and field goal".

Team loss.

 

[Stout]

How did it set them up to fail?

The D gave them the ball on the 35. They had a legit pick 6 robbed off them. Turned them over on downs twice and held them to 98 total yards on the first 6 drives of the 2nd half, with which our offense said "Thanks defense now let's punt, turnover on downs, punt, turnover on downs, punt and field goal".

How many times did the Lions drive far and pin us deep?

I've said it numerous times, that for our D, this was a good game. They are overall not good, so, for them, this is a good enough showing. It should have been enough to help the team win, yes. I just won't paper over the cracks of the D's failings in the game.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I don't remember seeing Kyler under center as much this game and therefore not much play action passing. It seemed like a lot of pistol and shotgun formations. Not sure why Petzing decided to move away from the play action passing game which seemed to be very effective over the last few games.

 

[Ronin]

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[CardsSunsDbacks]

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Well this was super pointless. Everyone knows all of this Brad. The question is why did they blow it dead when it was snapped before hitting 2 minutes..

 

[Dayman]

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[ajcardfan]

How many times did the Lions drive far and pin us deep?

I've said it numerous times, that for our D, this was a good game. They are overall not good, so, for them, this is a good enough showing. It should have been enough to help the team win, yes. I just won't paper over the cracks of the D's failings in the game.

This. It was as decent a result as we can get from our defense against a good offense. As much as everyone ******* about the pass rush, it is the run defense that continues to be the biggest problem. That play on 3rd and 12 when Gibbs ran for a first down was a killer. Way too many six to eight yard runs on first down. Monti has continued the Keim MO of trying to paper over the interior run defense with B list free agents, late round draft picks and UDFAs.

 

[Dayman]

This. It was as decent a result as we can get from our defense against a good offense. As much as everyone ******* about the pass rush, it is the run defense that continues to be the biggest problem. That play on 3rd and 12 when Gibbs ran for a first down was a killer. Way too many six to eight yard runs on first down. Monti has continued the Keim MO of trying to paper over the interior run defense with B list free agents, late round draft picks and UDFAs.

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[kerouac9]

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PFF grades are trash, but it certainly doesn't look or feel like these two big investments are paying off much. Seemed like Dante Stills had the biggest play among the IDL.

 

[ajcardfan]

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The only one I like is Stills who should be starting.

 

[MadCardDisease]

The only one I like is Stills who should be starting.

Stills had a huge 4th down stop on Montgomery and then followed it up with a huge sack the next series.

 

[ajcardfan]

Trey Benson got 2 snaps yesterday. I know we got behind and basically stopped running by the 4th quarter. If we struggle running the ball again this Sunday, I think how the RBs are used needs to be rethought. If Benson is playing so little, you might as well elevate Carter and have him split the work load with Conner. Carter has more big run potential than Conner. Or, have Benson split the carries with Conner first.

 

[DVontel]

I don't remember seeing Kyler under center as much this game and therefore not much play action passing. It seemed like a lot of pistol and shotgun formations. Not sure why Petzing decided to move away from the play action passing game which seemed to be very effective over the last few games.

Being on our 3rd string RT IMO. Still though, I feel like we rarely went under center in the 2nd half.

 

[QuebecCard]

This. It was as decent a result as we can get from our defense against a good offense. As much as everyone ******* about the pass rush, it is the run defense that continues to be the biggest problem. That play on 3rd and 12 when Gibbs ran for a first down was a killer. Way too many six to eight yard runs on first down. Monti has continued the Keim MO of trying to paper over the interior run defense with B list free agents, late round draft picks and UDFAs.

We won four games with a future first-ballot Hall of Famer and a guy who got his bag in Denver.

 

[kerouac9]

Trey Benson got 2 snaps yesterday.

Gotta get Chris Moore (3 snaps yesterday) on the field.

 

[QuebecCard]

Trey Benson got 2 snaps yesterday. I know we got behind and basically stopped running by the 4th quarter. If we struggle running the ball again this Sunday, I think how the RBs are used needs to be rethought. If Benson is playing so little, you might as well elevate Carter and have him split the work load with Conner. Carter has more big run potential than Conner. Or, have Benson split the carries with Conner first.

If there are no holes for Connor, there are no holes for Carter.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

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Watching our secondary on this play, the coverage is just a total disaster. This needs to be cleaned up. Play man coverage if needed so at least there is a defender on every receiver. We have guys covering literally nothing