Get Ready for Teddy!!

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I wouldn't pay more than 10 Mio $ to any QB in this FA expect for Cousins.

Neither McCaron or Bradford, Bridgewater, Keenum and so on are worth more than Backup money, and if someone pays them more I hope they know what they do. I hope the Cards try to get a QB on the cheap.
 

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Too much risk in the biscuit for TB.

TB had a horrible non-contact injury. Going back to pass in practice, no one around, and tore his kneecap/leg so badly it was feared his leg would have to be amputated.

He's been with the Vikes since and they are aware of the medical risks and his potential to recover and are looking to cut him loose.

Pass on TB.

https://www.twincities.com/2017/07/...ow-teddy-bridgewater-aims-to-save-his-career/


Maybe you didn`t read the dates on the article .The articles are from last summer and early fall.You do know TB came back and played in a game last season.
 

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Actually they declined a 12.198 million dollar option on TB.Which they would have likely done on many players.Also according to Sportrac they declined in April 2017.That was before he came back and played.
 

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Maybe you didn`t read the dates on the article .The articles are from last summer and early fall.You do know TB came back and played in a game last season.
The most concerning thing, for me, for Teddy is that after Bradford was eligible to play after having surgery on his knee(without even hurting it because it basically swell up after week one and no one knew why) Bradford was the backup and Teddy was inactive. I viewed that as the coaches trusted Bradford’s knee to hold up in an emergency situation more than Teddy’s QB play.
 

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Maybe you didn`t read the dates on the article .The articles are from last summer and early fall.You do know TB came back and played in a game last season.

I was aware of the date on the article I cited---in fact, I searched out one that described the original injury.

TB came back and played in a game last year---and the Vikes are still looking to let him go. What does that tell you in regards to how they are rating his recovery?

Someone mentioned RGIII---I see TB as a risk for the same chronic injury pattern going forward especially given the seriousness of his original injury. RGIII came back and played and was a shell of his former self so TB coming back for one game doesn't change my mind.

Still a pass---too much risk given the gruesome nature of his original injury.
 

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I was aware of the date on the article I cited---in fact, I searched out one that described the original injury.

TB came back and played in a game last year---and the Vikes are still looking to let him go. What does that tell you in regards to how they are rating his recovery?

Someone mentioned RGIII---I see TB as a risk for the same chronic injury pattern going forward especially given the seriousness of his original injury. RGIII came back and played and was a shell of his former self so TB coming back for one game doesn't change my mind.

Still a pass---too much risk given the gruesome nature of his original injury.


do you also know that according to Spotrac that his option was 12.1 million.You think that could had something to do with the decision also.
 

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I always wondered: How much quickness and mobility is robbed from a QB if he needs to wear a knee or ankle brace?

I the answer is: "Not much, the logical follow up question is: "Why not wear a brace as a way to minimize future injury?

And a follow-follow up: "Shouldn't a team's FO ignore the brace issue if it doesn't materially slow down the QB?
 

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I always wondered: How much quickness and mobility is robbed from a QB if he needs to wear a knee or ankle brace?

I the answer is: "Not much, the logical follow up question is: "Why not wear a brace as a way to minimize future injury?

And a follow-follow up: "Shouldn't a team's FO ignore the brace issue if it doesn't materially slow down the QB?

Marino wore one what, the last 2-3 years of his career?
 

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Teddy is #8 on FA top 25 list, Keenum and Bradford is on it too. I'm Ok with any of them but would prefer Bradford if his knees hold up. Like I say we are blessed to be needing a QB this year lots of talent FA and Draft - I want one of each. yea yea poo poo the risks - but its still a blessing and better options than hall, skelton, logan crap.

link to top 25 fa read
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ts-of-2018-quarterbacks-top-the-board-for-now
 

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Teddy is #8 on FA top 25 list, Keenum and Bradford is on it too. I'm Ok with any of them but would prefer Bradford if his knees hold up. Like I say we are blessed to be needing a QB this year lots of talent FA and Draft - I want one of each. yea yea poo poo the risks - but its still a blessing and better options than hall, skelton, logan crap.

link to top 25 fa read
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ts-of-2018-quarterbacks-top-the-board-for-now
I think he'd be the best fit overall for the Cardinals as well. But, I do wonder about his knee. While on the one hand, he didn't actually get injured(again) last year, the mystery problem with his knee that the Vikings and various doctors couldn't get figured out is probably more scary than an obvious injury that just takes time to heal.

Maybe it was just a fluke and an extension of the surgery to repair the knee but if it's something else...well, I don't begrudge anyone that thinks Bradford's got a lot to prove in terms of staying on the field. He took a pretty good beating in Philly and Minnesota in '15 & '16 and was able to stay on the field for the most part. It looked like he might have grown out of his injury problems like Stafford eventually did. But, last year brought all the doubts back and more. It's bad enough being injury prone but having a mystery ailment that keeps one off the field is even worse.
 
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I think he'd be the best fit overall for the Cardinals as well. But, I do wonder about his knee. While on the one hand, he didn't actually get injured(again) last year, the mystery problem with his knee that the Vikings and various doctors couldn't get figured out is probably more scary than an obvious injury that just takes time to heal.

Maybe it was just a fluke and an extension of the surgery to repair the knee but if it's something else...well, I don't begrudge anyone that thinks Bradford's got a lot to prove in terms of staying on the field. He took a pretty good beating in Philly and Minnesota in '15 & '16 and was able to stay on the field for the most part. It looked like he might have grown out of his injury problems like Stafford eventually did. But, last year brought all the doubts back and more. It's bad enough being injury prone but having a mystery ailment that keeps one off the field is even worse.

I read a report that said Bradfords knee is fine but his condition is degenerative... he does not have too many NFL years left... if he ever wants to teach his kids to play catch he might consider retiring sooner rather than later
 

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I read a report that said Bradfords knee is fine but his condition is degenerative... he does not have too many NFL years left... if he ever wants to teach his kids to play catch he might consider retiring sooner rather than later
Yeah, I saw that Zimmer said that his knee condition was degenerative but I don't really know what that means. Is it going to keep getting worse if he plays or whether he plays or not? Does it put him at a higher risk of injury? Was it degenerative before he had the ACL injury or was it because of it? Are there different degrees of degenerative-ness?

All of that on top of the fact that in the same report Zimmer said Bradford was on vacation skiing. So, does any of it mean that he shouldn't/can't continue to play football? Dr. James Andrews said after the last procedure that his knee is good to go. Ligaments, tendons, etc. are all in good health.
 
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Yeah, I saw that Zimmer said that his knee condition was degenerative but I don't really know what that means. Is it going to keep getting worse if he plays or whether he plays or not? Does it put him at a higher risk of injury? Was it degenerative before he had the ACL injury or was it because of it? Are there different degrees of degenerative-ness?

All of that on top of the fact that in the same report Zimmer said Bradford was on vacation skiing. So, does any of it mean that he shouldn't/can't continue to play football? Dr. James Andrews said after the last procedure that his knee is good to go. Ligaments, tendons, etc. are all in good health.

I have a degenerative knee due to a couple meniscus tears in my twenties and thirties. Staying active helps it but abusing it makes it worse. The docs told me, exercise bikes, no hoops. They didnt even want me jogging on a treadmill because it was too stressful... my guess is avoiding nfl rushers and taking those hits would be pretty stressful too.

Degeneration of the knee causes accelerated arthritis which causes bone spurs, swelling, calcium buildups and all that destabilizes the knee and pushes your ligaments and tendons out of proper position opening you up for further injury.

I am sure Sam has access to plenty of anti- inflammatories and such to help himself to stay healthy but there is no way to avoid long term damage at this point.. it is just a matter of when his knee needs to be replaced, not "if"

of course...since its gonna have to happen anyway he may have decided to go ahead and bank another hundred mil before it happens
 
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Thing is Zimmer said it was degenerative not the Dr. The Dr. gave it a clean bill of health. Remember Zimmer also had some odd comments about Keenum. I would take Bradford & draft a QB & not look back.
 

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Thing is Zimmer said it was degenerative not the Dr. The Dr. gave it a clean bill of health. Remember Zimmer also had some odd comments about Keenum. I would take Bradford & draft a QB & not look back.
I also feel like Zimmer is being very calculating with all the comments about his various QB's. I suppose all coaches are doing much the same this time of year.
 
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