Getting the first pick

[dreamcastrocks]

Panthers are interesting in that they went back to Moore over Claussen.

...and yet Anderson stays the starter....

All you need to know.

 

[Mulli]

...and yet Anderson stays the starter....

All you need to know.

Hall and Skelton are worse? You lost me.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Hall and Skelton are worse? You lost me.

Fair enough. Fox is willing to continue try something different when whatever he is doing isn't working.

 

[Mulli]

Fair enough. Fox is willing to continue try something different when whatever he is doing isn't working.

Oh yes, I thought you meant that.

 

[Russ Smith]

we have to hope the Lions get the first pick and that we then do what we NEVER do and make them an offer they can't refuse with our number 1 this year and next and deal for the pick. They're not done with the kid from Georgia yet and they're the only team worse than us who could end up there. That being said, Rod Graves ******** will NEVER be able to make that trade, so why bother caring.

Cmon Cheese you've been a Card fan too long to think that way. If Detroit gets the first pick, they will trade us Stafford and they will take Luck.

In Stafford's first day at OTA's as a Cardinal he will trip over the gatorade cooler and reinjure himself on his non throwing shoulder. After surgery it will be revealed the surgeons accidentally operated on the wrong shoulder, and Staffords career is over.

 

[Russ Smith]

Panthers are interesting in that they went back to Moore over Claussen.

Claussen's play really put John Fox in a pickle, he had to bench him.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Claussen's play really put John Fox in a pickle, he had to bench him.

3/5

 

[Russ Smith]

the other thing that tells me we won't get the first pick is we won a game because Oakland blew a last second FG. Carolina just lost a game because they blew a last second FG. It's just obvious the universe is conspiring to keep us from having the first pick.

 

[Russ Smith]

3/5

Thank you I thought that might have been a bannable post.

 

[crisper57]

Just think. If Stevie hadn't stripped the ball from the Rams defender in the 1st game. If Janikowski hadn't shanked the game-winner, if Drew Breese hadn't had the worst game of his life, we'd be sitting on a zero-win gold mine!

 

[Cheesebeef]

They just drafted Stafford. They wouldn't want Luck anyway IMO. They sure as hell would be taking offers and we'd better outbid Buffalo, Cincinnati, possibly Carolina, and even dark horse teams like SF for the pick.

I know... that's exactly what I was saying why they need to get the first pick. They're the only bad of the bad who would be looking to deal that pick.

 

[Evil Ash]

Panthers are interesting in that they went back to Moore over Claussen.

Fox is fighting to keep his job because he's a lame duck coach. When you're in that position you don't want to have the patience to develop a rookie.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Fox is fighting to keep his job because he's a lame duck coach. When you're in that position you don't want to have the patience to develop a rookie.

exactly what we have to look forward to next year! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Zeno]

As for our drafting position and the other teams with similar records, we first need to take a look at those teams:

Carolina Panthers: 1-10
Buffalo Bills: 2-9
Detroit Lions: 2-9
Cincinnati Bengals: 2-9
Arizona Cardinals: 3-8

Thse are the only teams we need to concern ourselves with. If the Cards lose out and those teams all manage 3 wins we will have the first pick, unless I am missing something and one of those teams has a weaker schedule than us.

If we aren't in position to draft Luck do ANY of you trust the front office to put us in that position? The only way we are in that position is with the first pick overall.

 

[PACardsFan]

The only team that may finish ahead of us AND wants a QB is Cincy. Buffalo has more pressing issues. Carolina won't go QB 2 years in a row & Detroit will give Stafford at least another year to show he can stay healthy. If we lose out (maybe that's what Whiz actually wants), then we may very well lock up Luck. The best QB to come out in a while. Great athletic ability & has BRAINS!!! Do not draft an athletic moron.

 

[TheHopToad]

I don't think Luck is going to come out. My guess is that he will stay another year at Stanford rather than risk not playing at all because of the lockout. He still has options. And if Harbaugh stays as coach, I think Luck stays regardless of the lockout.

 

[Russ Smith]

I don't think Luck is going to come out. My guess is that he will stay another year at Stanford rather than risk not playing at all because of the lockout. He still has options. And if Harbaugh stays as coach, I think Luck stays regardless of the lockout.

I've felt that too until recent comments by Harbaugh which essentially said the kid should come out he's ready. I think Harbaugh is sort of laying the foundation for him to take another job.

 

[az jam]

I've felt that too until recent comments by Harbaugh which essentially said the kid should come out he's ready. I think Harbaugh is sort of laying the foundation for him to take another job.

He will be the 49er coach next year. No reason to stay at Stanford. They can't even get a sell out for one of the best teams in the country.

 

[conraddobler]

There's a ton of prospective QB talent in this draft, I really think Gabbert comes out this year, the only reason he may not is there is so much talent in this draft, it's a game of chicken.

I'd be interested in someone who really knows QB prospects take on him and Luck, from what I hear Luck is probably more polished but Gabbert has everything you want, he's pretty smart, 6'5", reasonably mobile with a true NFL arm, as in upper echelon NFL arm.

If he came out he'd be the consensus # 4 QB in this draft, behind Luck, Mallet and Locker but ahead of Ponder.

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/miss...-be-top-10-nfl-draft-pick-in-2011-will-blaine

He had a better year last year than this year, mostly due to better WR's then.

It's not always easy to compare QB's, because their talent isn't consistent from one year to the next let alone across teams.

Gabbert would not be the kind of guy you strap a team to early on in his career though, I wouldn't do that, he needs a great QB guru to go to, so I'm torn on having him land on the Cardinals, I'd be excited but scared for him.

I really think that in the right situation with the right coach he might turn out to be the best of the bunch over time.

 

[MrYeahBut]

I am already full of fear and trepidation about how the FO will screw up whatever pick we end up with.

Maybe we should just take a kicker and get it over with

 

[conraddobler]

One possibility would be to get Gabbert in the 2nd if he would enter the draft and fall that far.

In this draft I'd take whatever high ranking QB I could get and if he's there in the 2nd I'd take him as insurance.

That way you would hope you've solved your QB problem in some way.

In any event if Mizzou plays in the Insight Bowl, they may, I'd go check him out if I were you guys.

 

[football karma]

boy--

if you go look at the schedules for Detroit, Carolina, Buffalo -- I dont see any games that look like possible wins for them (except of course when the Panthers play the Cardinals)

 

[Mulli]

boy--

if you go look at the schedules for Detroit, Carolina, Buffalo -- I dont see any games that look like possible wins for them (except of course when the Panthers play the Cardinals)

True, unless the Panthers can beat Seattle in Seattle.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Stating that the NFLPA wants a rookie scale is a factual statement. It is just a factual statement that has no bearing on the reality of the situation.

I think it's pretty well known that the players want the money going to the veterans rather than unproven rookies. What they don't want is a rookie pay scale and have that money saved go back into the owners pockets.

 

[football karma]

True, unless the Panthers can beat Seattle in Seattle.

a real game of interest for me next week--- go Panthers!!