Going to PILOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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David E. Kelly is TV savvy. I was just mentioning the two worst parts of an OK show.

Legal shows are either hit or miss. Just remember that every ensemble drama needs a Dr. Wayne Fiscus or Arnie Becker. Even truly weird ensemble dramas like Lost has a Hurley to bring levity to the show. The X-Files had the Lone Gunmen. Characters like that are what keep dramas from becoming soaps.

this one is STRAIGHT soap. set your expectations to LOW!
 

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this one is STRAIGHT soap. set your expectations to LOW!

And your phasers to STUN!!


So, you going to write a part in for a Stefano-like character who keeps fooling the lawyers with clever disguises like fake beards or a ship captain suit?
 

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Just found out on IMDB that the name of cheese's new TV show is going to be "Cloverfield"! :shock:
 

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grats cheese hope it works out for you be sure to let us know what time it comes on :)
 
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well, here's all the news that's fit to print the day before I leave to go to Chi-town for pre-production:

Cast in two of the main roles as the parents (and gatekeepers of the show) of the Kennedy-esque family of lawyers are Beau Bridges and Anne Archer, which is a coup for a Lifetime show getting both of them - we're all pretty stoked on that.

Our lead in the show is a relative unknown actress out of Chicago named Joey Hanso - I haven't seen her in anything but auditions or or readings, but she's a very good actress and reminds me of Tina Fey, if Tina Fey was 5 times hotter than she currently is.

Also in the show is Cheyenne Jackson, who some of you might remember from United 93 (the Theatrical version directed by Paul Greengrass) - he was oone of th emain Americans, always with his baseball cap on.

Everyone else is a serious unknown, but they're all very good actors and fresh faces. I'm so stoked I can't even tell you.

Look out Chi-town - here comes the Cheese!
 
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Rumor has it your boss was once involved with Lost, Cheese. OK, just a rumor. And I started it. But it demands a response!
 

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Congratulations cheese.

Anne archer used to be unbelievably hot.

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Rumor has it your boss was once involved with Lost, Cheese. OK, just a rumor. And I started it. But it demands a response!

he's the co-creator of the show... long story. look up Chicago-magazine and Jeffrey Lieber and you can read the whole article about it.
 

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well, here's all the news that's fit to print the day before I leave to go to Chi-town for pre-production:

Cast in two of the main roles as the parents (and gatekeepers of the show) of the Kennedy-esque family of lawyers are Beau Bridges and Anne Archer, which is a coup for a Lifetime show getting both of them - we're all pretty stoked on that.

Our lead in the show is a relative unknown actress out of Chicago named Joey Hanso - I haven't seen her in anything but auditions or or readings, but she's a very good actress and reminds me of Tina Fey, if Tina Fey was 5 times hotter than she currently is.

Also in the show is Cheyenne Jackson, who some of you might remember from United 93 (the Theatrical version directed by Paul Greengrass) - he was oone of th emain Americans, always with his baseball cap on.

Everyone else is a serious unknown, but they're all very good actors and fresh faces. I'm so stoked I can't even tell you.

Look out Chi-town - here comes the Cheese!

so does this mean i'm on the "joey hanso diet" now?

i'll be in chicago from the night of the 6th - 9th. i expect introductions or i come and hunt you and jeff down. don't make me call your boss' mom . . . or yours . . .
 
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so does this mean i'm on the "joey hanso diet" now?

i'll be in chicago from the night of the 6th - 9th. i expect introductions or i come and hunt you and jeff down. don't make me call your boss' mom . . . or yours . . .

we're leaving on the 5th you ****** - and Joey's married. Told ya - y'all should just come the weekend of the 21st - do it, do it.
 

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he's the co-creator of the show... long story. look up Chicago-magazine and Jeffrey Lieber and you can read the whole article about it.

Ohhhh. I know that story. It's TV legend by now. I feel for him. It's got to suck knowing what you have to do to get paid for your work ... and knowing people are talking behind your back about you for doing something they would do themselves.
 
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Ohhhh. I know that story. It's TV legend by now. I feel for him. It's got to suck knowing what you have to do to get paid for your work ... and knowing people are talking behind your back about you for doing something they would do themselves.

i wouldn't feel too bad for him - trust me - Lost is gonna send his kids to college, their kids to college, their kids kids to college, their kids kids kids to college and so on and so on.

It may have stung BADDDDDD for the first year, but he's moved on, his bank account will BOOM once it gets sold to syndication and it's only helped his career... and mine!
 

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Hey Cheese, what is the name of the show? Sorry if I missed it.

Lifetime has to be thinking this show could be a hit, a la "Army Wives", right?
 
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Hey Cheese, what is the name of the show? Sorry if I missed it.

Lifetime has to be thinking this show could be a hit, a la "Army Wives", right?

don't worry abomb - I don't think you missed it... we start shooting it on Wednesday :).

And yeah, getting Army Wives numbers would be great.
 
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Well, looks like the strike is almost over, so it was gut check time for Lifetime to decide whether or not to pick our show up (yeah, THAT ONE from almost half a year ago!) AND the big news of the day is... the pilot's dead.

Viva Hell A!
 

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Well, looks like the strike is almost over, so it was gut check time for Lifetime to decide whether or not to pick our show up (yeah, THAT ONE from almost half a year ago!) AND the big news of the day is... the pilot's dead.

Viva Hell A!

Man, that's a kick in the nuts. Sorry about that, bro. Hey, now you can move to western PA and write that original zombie flick that takes place in a steel mill, where the zombies can only be killed by being pushed into the fires. Hey, I'll star, but we'll need a film crew and director ;)
 

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Man, that's a kick in the nuts. Sorry about that, bro. Hey, now you can move to western PA and write that original zombie flick that takes place in a steel mill, where the zombies can only be killed by being pushed into the fires. Hey, I'll star, but we'll need a film crew and director ;)

I'll direct... :thumbup:


PS: Sorry to hear that Cheese, this strike has been bad for everyone all around.
 
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I'll direct... :thumbup:


PS: Sorry to hear that Cheese, this strike has been bad for everyone all around.

eh, the strike didn't really kill us. You just can't have a middle of the road, legal show with a cast of relative no-names. There's just no way to promote that. Live and learn... again.
 

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eh, the strike didn't really kill us. You just can't have a middle of the road, legal show with a cast of relative no-names. There's just no way to promote that. Live and learn... again.

You're saying the strike had nothing to do with it? You don't really believe that, do you? If there wasn't a strike, there would have been more precedent to take a chance on a new show with no-names. Now, because it's been 3 months, they need a sure thing, unfortunately.
 
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You're saying the strike had nothing to do with it? You don't really believe that, do you? If there wasn't a strike, there would have been more precedent to take a chance on a new show with no-names. Now, because it's been 3 months, they need a sure thing, unfortunately.


this is gonna come off harsh, but the more I think about this statement, the more I wonder if we work in the same industry. Think about this, you've never even SEEN OR READ this pilot, but you can somehow surmise that the strike was a reason it didn't make it? I've got news for you Chap, a middle of the road, retread Legal Show with a no-name cast (which is what it ended up being when all was said and done) has almost no shot of getting on ANYWHERE. You know what gets on TV? Big ideas, Stars, shows from HUGE Show-runners and absolute PERFECT pilots with none of the above. To think there would have been "more precedent" to "take a chance" on a show with none of the above just speaks to a severe lack of understanding about TV pilot season works Chap. I n the immortal words of Chris Berman... "I mean JESUS! It's like these people have never worked in TV before! I mean... JESUS!" (and for anyone who wants to see what I'm referring to there in a wayyyyy inside joke, just pull up Berman, Jesus rant on Youtube).

They need a sure thing... sure, every network does, but more than that, every network needs PRODUCT. Hell, they're sure thing wouldn't even ready to hit the air until... 2009 because as of right now, they don't have a sure thing. We actually had PRODUCT... something NO ONE has right now... ready to churn out, a template for a show people can already see as a living, breathing thing. If it was IN ANY WAY PROMOTABLE, they'd put that sucker on the air because they are so ridiculously behind with everything that's in development right now. In a way, we were in a BETTER position than anyone else.

Do you have any idea how long it takes to develop a script, get the green light, cast it, shoot it, edit it and then test it a million times? From start to end, almost ALL pilots take at least 9 months to go through that cycle. So, they're willing to put NOTHING on the air in the next 9-10 months rather than putting our thing on the air, because they need a "sure-thing"... which they won't have until 2009? Yeah, that makes a ton of sense.
 
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Sorry to hear that cheese. :(
 
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