Goran Dragic traded to Heat

[AzStevenCal]

BTW, if Brandon Knight is so much needed in Phoenix why not sign him to a big offer sheet next summer?

I highly doubt that the Bucks would have matched it.

But now thank God we have the upper hand...

And I even MORE highly doubt they would have just let him walk. They wouldn't have wanted to shell out big bucks for him but that's the conundrum the teams have to deal with, overpay for a young budding (potential) superstar or let him walk for nothing. They found a way to avoid what we just went through with Bledsoe. And we found a way to get him without having to give up superstar like assets. Ask me in a few years who won this deal because right now, none of us know.

Steve

 

[82CardsGrad]

Goran's goodbye tweets

https://twitter.com/Goran_Dragic/status/568547506440650753
https://twitter.com/Goran_Dragic/status/568547859533922304
https://twitter.com/Goran_Dragic/status/568548043768733696
https://twitter.com/Goran_Dragic/status/568548229576421376
https://twitter.com/Goran_Dragic/status/568548624730230784
https://twitter.com/Goran_Dragic/status/568548643021545472

Always a class act... Thx Goran and best of luck in Miami!

 

[slinslin]

Always a class act... Thx Goran and best of luck in Miami!

Yeah very classy how he threw the team under the bus and shot his value and then dictated where he could be traded.

 

[Folster]

A lot of people are complaining about the Suns running a 2 pg system and that Knight is undersized. Have you looked at the state of the shooting guard position in the NBA. There are very few natural shooting guards Now that are starting material. You can play an undersized 2/ combo guard like Knight who can handle the ball, or a 3 who probably lacks handles.

 

[hcsilla]

And I even MORE highly doubt they would have just let him walk. They wouldn't have wanted to shell out big bucks for him but that's the conundrum the teams have to deal with, overpay for a young budding (potential) superstar or let him walk for nothing. They found a way to avoid what we just went through with Bledsoe. And we found a way to get him without having to give up superstar like assets. Ask me in a few years who won this deal because right now, none of us know.

Steve

Forgive me, but Knight is far away from being a budding (potential) superstar.

He always was. He got traded for Brandon Jennings. He still is.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah very classy how he threw the team under the bus and shot his value and then dictated where he could be traded.

It's sad, but in my book, Dragic loses his luster as he leaves the Suns. He gave the Suns short notice and bad mouthed them on his way out. This is the Suns team that gave him a chance in the NBA with a second round pick.

 

[Joe Mama]

Always a class act... Thx Goran and best of luck in Miami!

You seem to have slept through the last two days.

Joe

 

[AzStevenCal]

Forgive me, but Knight is far away from being a budding (potential) superstar.

He always was. He got traded for Brandon Jennings. He still is.

23 years old, borderline all star with good stats. Sounds like a "potential" budding superstar to me. Maybe he never gets there, most potential superstars don't but to say he is far from even having the potential to get there makes me ask why. What have you seen from him that has you convinced he is not even close to having the potential to develop into a superstar?

Steve

 

[AzStevenCal]

It's sad, but in my book, Dragic loses his luster as he leaves the Suns. He gave the Suns short notice and bad mouthed them on his way out. This is the Suns team that gave him a chance in the NBA with a second round pick.

There's two (or more) sides to most stories and that's likely the case here. He was obviously very torn when he badmouthed the organization as he showed again today when he apologized for making it sound worse than it was. A few years from now I think we'll learn more of the story. I've heard it suggested that much of this was orchestrated by his wife. She isn't going to become famous living in Phoenix, she needs the bright lights or so the story goes. I don't know how much truth there is to this story but it explains his destinations which otherwise made no sense.

Anyway, I can remember being unhappy a time or two at work myself. I could voice my displeasure without the world watching, I can't imagine what it's like for someone like Goran. He liked Phoenix and he saw his best chance to strike it rich falling by the wayside. And I'd imagine there were voices in his ear telling him he was being mistreated because he wasn't getting the chance to put up Seth Curry kind of numbers. I don't like the way he handled this but we could have handled it much better too.

Steve

 

[BC867]

It's sad, but in my book, Dragic loses his luster as he leaves the Suns. He gave the Suns short notice and bad mouthed them on his way out. This is the Suns team that gave him a chance in the NBA with a second round pick.

There was reference to a series of broken promises/lies by the Front Office to Goran over the recent past.

We don't really know his side of it. But we know his honest personality and we have seen his dedication to the Suns despite them previously letting him go.

How can any fan pass judgement on his dissatisfaction without knowing all the facts?

My belief is that the Suns pushed Goran Dragic to the breaking point . . . and he broke.

I wish him well in Miami.

 

[SirStefan32]

There was reference to a series of broken promises/lies by the Front Office to Goran over the recent past.

We don't really know his side of it. But we know his honest personality and we have seen his dedication to the Suns despite them previously letting him go.

How can any fan pass judgement on his dissatisfaction without knowing all the facts?

My belief is that the Suns pushed Goran Dragic to the breaking point . . . and he broke.

I wish him well in Miami.

History will judge what happened. Meanwhile, I wish Goran well, and Miami will, for certain, be my "adopted" team this year. We'll see how the Suns do without him, and how he does without Bledsoe/IT. That will tell us the basketball side of things. The "human" side of things we may never know, except for the obvious (Being brought in to take over for Nash, then being put behind Bledsoe, then being put behind Bledsoe and IT.) Regardless, he's always been a model citizen/ employee for the organization, even coming back after he was dumped the previous year. He is one of the "good guys" in this league, and I hope he turns into Steve Nash for the second part of his career.

 

[95pro]

It's sad, but in my book, Dragic loses his luster as he leaves the Suns. He gave the Suns short notice and bad mouthed them on his way out. This is the Suns team that gave him a chance in the NBA with a second round pick.

Spurs would have groomed him into something special if it wasn't for the Suns.

 

[slinslin]

Spurs would have groomed him into something special if it wasn't for the Suns.

Spurs would not have picked him.

 

[hcsilla]

23 years old, borderline all star with good stats. Sounds like a "potential" budding superstar to me. Maybe he never gets there, most potential superstars don't but to say he is far from even having the potential to get there makes me ask why. What have you seen from him that has you convinced he is not even close to having the potential to develop into a superstar?

When I saw him he always took difficult shots. Off-balance floaters, long mid-range J's with a defender in his face. I always had the feeling that his team won despite of his presence and not because of it.

Of course that's subjective and stats just partially back it up:

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/6448/brandon-knight

He is a (very) good athlete but even less of a PG than Bledsoe, I saw only simple kick passes from him or just semi-assists when his teammate created his own shot after getting the ball from Knight.

The good signs are he is a dangerous 3P-shooter (hopefully last season was just bad luck) and he was the hardest worker of the Bucks.

 

[Phrazbit]

How can any fan pass judgement on his dissatisfaction without knowing all the facts?

The Bledsoe/Dragic laughable double standard stays strong all the way to the end.

Where was that line of thought when Bledsoe was getting shredded this summer? Pleeenty of people were willing to say definitively that he didn't like it here, he was all about himself and wanted out.

Dragic actually confirms these things about himself... and his Sainthood remains intact.

 

[sunsfan88]

A lot of people are complaining about the Suns running a 2 pg system and that Knight is undersized. Have you looked at the state of the shooting guard position in the NBA. There are very few natural shooting guards Now that are starting material. You can play an undersized 2/ combo guard like Knight who can handle the ball, or a 3 who probably lacks handles.

There aren't many teams (when healthy) who are starting a player at SG that is less than 6'4. Even 6'4 is only a few. Most of them are 6'5 or taller.

Now Knight is supposed to be a good defender so it may not be a problem.

 

[sunsfan88]

Miami is loving Dragic already. This is from a radio station in Miami reacting to the Dragic trade

https://twitter.com/MichaelRyanRuiz/status/568499546130681856

 

[slinslin]

Let us see how they react down the road when they are 20-60 and give us their pick.

 

[chickenhead]

https://twitter.com/Goran_Dragic/status/568548643021545472

I wish him well, but I also wish he wouldn't use the phrase "dragon's fire" himself. It's like giving yourself a nickname...

 

[JS22]

This year we had a three headed monster.

We reverted to a two headed monster, trading out a guy who wanted to leave and was nearing the end of his prime, for a guy who isn't pissed at us, and is still years away from entering his prime. That and he's going to be a RFA not a UFA. Basically we had today or lose Dragic. Now we have this summer or next summer, or we can keep the much younger Knight. Knight won't be Dragic's age until about 2020. He's 5 years and 7 months younger then Dragic. In fact, with his birthday in December, Knight is BARELY 23.

Knight is way ahead of where Dragic was at his age.

Two quality point guards is much more manageable then three.

I'm not as upset about losing the Lakers pick as most people simply because Knight is 23, and most likely better than anything you're going to get in the 6-15 range. (Which is, most likely, where that Lakers pick is going to fall.)

Seems like a lot of people are severely undervaluing him. We'll see how it plays out.

 

[JS22]

20th in the 2016 draft?

There is no way that the Lakers will be a solid play-off team next season.

It's highly unlikely that they will make the play-off. They might have enough cap room (provided the salary cap will be about 67 mil. next year, as projected) for one max. FA (BTW, who will be this one?) and that's it.

That is NOT a play-off team in the West.

So we gave away a #4-14 pick, that's the sad fact unless something dramatic will happen to at least some play-off teams.

They didn't give away the pick. They traded it for someone who's most likely going to be better than anything you'll find in that range. And he's only 23.

 

[Errntknght]

I'm more saddened at the loss of Ennis than the Lakers pick. I thought he was a silly pick but he played team ball down in the D-League where everyone is looking out for their own stats. And he scored just fine when they laid off him. I won't be shocked if he turns out to the best player involved in all these trades.

 

[Phrazbit]

Chris Bosh might miss the remainder of the season with blood clots.

There goes Goran's pick and roll partner.

 

[slinslin]

lol on twitter they are already saying that

Mark Medina ✔ @MarkG_Medina
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Suns traded Goran Dragic to Heat. But person close to Dragic said he sees Lakers as "the perfect fit" this offseason http://bit.ly/1Li3XXn

Drabic wants to follow Nash around

 

[JCSunsfan]

lol on twitter they are already saying that



Drabic wants to follow Nash around

Wow. Miami gives up two firsts for potentially a 3 month rental. Either that or he has begun negotiating by twitter.