Gresham signs 4 year deal

[RON_IN_OC]

The all knowing Bodha isn't so all knowing. He just likes to think he is & will put down anyone who disagrees. It's typical narcissistic tendencies. IMHO of course.

People keep saying, be like the Patriots...How quickly they forget how awesome the Pats were with Gronk and the murderer at TE. IMO, adding a 2nd TE, like OJ, is a Patriot move and he would fill the role that Floyd failed to live up to last year. The Cards offense could be like Tecmo.

 

[juza76]

People keep saying, be like the Patriots...How quickly they forget how awesome the Pats were with Gronk and the murderer at TE. IMO, adding a 2nd TE, like OJ, is a Patriot move and he would fill the role that Floyd failed to live up to last year. The Cards offense could be like Tecmo.

Yes but everything is simple when u have the legendary tom Brady leading your team
We use the tigh ends essentially as blockers, oj howard should be a nice fit but we have other priorities need?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Excellent.

That is a good signing for the Cardinals, IMO.

If the Cardinals can also sign DJ Swearinger then those are the two key players I think the Cardinals needed to re-sign this offseason.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Yes but everything is simple when u have the legendary tom Brady leading your team
We use the tigh ends essentially as blockers, oj howard should be a nice fit but we have other priorities need?

You aren't drafting OJ to block, you are drafting him to catch passes and fill the role of Michael Floyd...He would provide flexibility in the offense. Gresham and OJ are both capable of staying in to block or splitting out wide. It would create some interesting mismatches, and like I posted earlier, take pressure off of Fitz and allow the "littles" to take the top off of defenses. I guess BASK can just draft another big bodied WR, but the OJ thing is so intriguing.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Gresham is a good TE and not just a solid one. He is also one of those players of late which has come to us (Chris Johnson being another) who really loves this team and plays like it too. Really dig his passion and he sets the emotional character of the offense and will not fault him for going off due to passion and not liking an opposing player going off when the refs are oblivious. As far as the money, everyone in my opinion who is freaking out needs to note that under normal circumstance without two older players on the roster, eating up a ton of cap, (and I understand why with Palmer and Fitz and do not have a problem with their salaries as they ride into the proverbial sunset and hopefully with a championship) this signing is not bad at all and worth the money in my opinion

 

[az jam]

Gresham is a good TE and not just a solid one. He is also one of those players of late which has come to us (Chris Johnson being another) who really loves this team and plays like it too. Really dig his passion and he sets the emotional character of the offense and will not fault him for going off due to passion and not liking an opposing player going off when the refs are oblivious. As far as the money, everyone in my opinion who is freaking out needs to note that under normal circumstance without two older players on the roster, eating up a ton of cap, (and I understand why with Palmer and Fitz and do not have a problem with their salaries as they ride into the proverbial sunset and hopefully with a championship) this signing is not bad at all and worth the money in my opinion

Good stuff, Jetstream. Totally agree with you. Gresham is 6'5" 260 lbs and 28 years of age. He is in his prime. He fils well into BA's system and is a vet well respected by the players.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Gresham is a good TE and not just a solid one.

sorry... this just isn't true. A guy who's averaged 400 yards and 4 TDs per season over the course of his entire career is NOT a good TE by any stretch. He's ok... not much more, not much less. He'll make some big plays... he'll drop some big plays and he'll bring some toughness... with a side of stupidity that costs us with head-scratching personal fouls. Even saying he's solid is being generous. He's a guy, IMO... and giving that guy 6 million bucks seems like a lot when you look at what that 6 million could have gone toward if we lose CC.

 

[Jetstream Green]

sorry... this just isn't true. A guy who's averaged 400 yards and 4 TDs per season over the course of his entire career is NOT a good TE by any stretch. He's ok... not much more, not much less. He'll make some big plays... he'll drop some big plays and he'll bring some toughness... with a side of stupidity that costs us with head-scratching personal fouls. Even saying he's solid is being generous. He's a guy, IMO... and giving that guy 6 million bucks seems like a lot when you look at what that 6 million could have gone toward if we lose CC.

I would call Greg Olsen a good TE, and in his first 5 years he averaged 504 yards in receiving and 5 TDs a season while Gresham averaged 544 yards and 5 TDs in his first five years before he got to the Cards. Olsen is a few years older but what separates him from Gresham in my opinion is that he finally went into a offense which actually used him and then his yards and TDs took a significant rise in production. By no means do I think Gresham is a great TE and may not be as good as Olsen till he has a chance to prove that worth but personally think he is better than average but the Cards do not put him in a position to excel in comparison to other teams

 

[BigRedRage]

Good stuff, Jetstream. Totally agree with you. Gresham is 6'5" 260 lbs and 28 years of age. He is in his prime. He fils well into BA's system and is a vet well respected by the players.

I thought he was in his thirties

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[Mainstreet]

Are the Cardinals still trying to restructure contracts or is that over?

 

[az jam]

I thought he was in his thirties

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He will be 29 years old in June. (born June 16, 1988)

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I would call Greg Olsen a good TE, and in his first 5 years he averaged 504 yards in receiving and 5 TDs a season while Gresham averaged 544 yards and 5 TDs in his first five years before he got to the Cards. Olsen is a few years older but what separates him from Gresham in my opinion is that he finally went into a offense which actually used him and then his yards and TDs took a significant rise in production. By no means do I think Gresham is a great TE and may not be as good as Olsen till he has a chance to prove that worth but personally think he is better than average but the Cards do not put him in a position to excel in comparison to other teams

+1

 

[Shane]

Sorry, but i have never understood this thinking. it's not our money, who CARES how much Bidwill pays players? There is no trophy for "MOST AWESOME CAP MANAGEMENT". Screw it, get guys who will win games and trophies. F the cap. You win a trophy, cap hell in future years is a SMALL price to pay.

Call me crazy.but I don't really think anyone has a problem going into cap hell to try and win a Super Bowl but I'm not so sure 90% of people believe that paying Jermaine Gresham $7 million a season is the way to do it… Plenty other places you can overspend that one doesn't seem the smartest to me .... The guys a career mediocre TE who makes big-time mistakes in big-time situations with his hot head ....

 

[Jetstream Green]

I have a question regarding the cap. If Larry and Carson retire after this season, how would signing Gresham to this contract result in cap hell? I think Keim is looking ahead, as he should, and not as caught up in this 'window' as most people are. Jefferson and Campbell are not going to take any one year deal to fit in our cap space, they want multiple years and bonus money now and Palmer and Fitz does not seem to allow that... sign DJ Swearinger and I am content along with the 'fill the belly of the squad' lower end vet signings which hopefully will include a cornerback who we will not nickname 'marshmallow' from getting burned too often

 

[Cheesebeef]

I have a question regarding the cap. If Larry and Carson retire after this season, how would signing Gresham to this contract result in cap hell? I think Keim is looking ahead, as he should, and not as caught up in this 'window' as most people are. Jefferson and Campbell are not going to take any one year deal to fit in our cap space, they want multiple years and bonus money now and Palmer and Fitz does not seem to allow that... sign DJ Swearinger and I am content along with the 'fill the belly of the squad' lower end vet signings which hopefully will include a cornerback who we will not nickname 'marshmallow' from getting burned too often

COME ON... NO ONE is saying Gresham puts us in cap hell. People are just wondering if signing him was the wisest use of the cap and if that money could have been spent better elsewhere.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I would call Greg Olsen a good TE, and in his first 5 years he averaged 504 yards in receiving and 5 TDs a season while Gresham averaged 544 yards and 5 TDs in his first five years before he got to the Cards. Olsen is a few years older but what separates him from Gresham in my opinion is that he finally went into a offense which actually used him and then his yards and TDs took a significant rise in production. By no means do I think Gresham is a great TE and may not be as good as Olsen till he has a chance to prove that worth but personally think he is better than average but the Cards do not put him in a position to excel in comparison to other teams

than why would you PAY him like a TE who's going to make an impact? And why didn't he sign last year with anyone when he was a FA... or the year before?

I really don't see how you're comparing him in any way shape or form to the second best TE in the game when he's literally NEVER shown that level of play.

 

[Buckybird]

Overpaid IMO

 

[Stout]

Glad to have him back.

 

[Bert]

Are the Cardinals still trying to restructure contracts or is that over?

On the radio they said that PP is basically the only contract we have we can restructure and it would get us like 7 mil max. Not sure on numbers, but that's what I heard.

 

[Yuma]

One caveat to the overpaid debate, is comparing catches and TDs is easy to do. However, how do you measure his blocking ability? We all know Arians loves good blocking, and the Cards were willing to resign him. So I am assuming his blocking was a good part of that.

 

[MrYeahBut]

I like him rumbling, bumbling, stumbling for extra yards. His stupid penalties, not so much.

 

[GatorAZ]

He's alright... Average i guess. Decent player. Well more or less I suppose.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

He's alright... Average i guess. Decent player. Well more or less I suppose.

Lol.

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[BigRedRage]

leadership goes a long ways too

 

[cardpa]

I always liked Gresham. He is capable of 800 yds. in a season if he is thrown to enough, however Arians offense doesn't dictate the TE as a primary receiver. Getting 400-500 from Gresham in Arians offense is good production from the TE position.