Grimm & Miller fired

[Buckybird]

Re: the offensive staff mass firings - Some weird stuff coming out of NFL Net was that, as a group, the offensive players on the Cardinals "didn't see it coming."

How did that happen? From every standpoint - stats, game tape etc. - we were pretty close to rock bottom in every offensive aspect of the game. What did they expect?

Maybe we should fire any idiot left on offense that didn't believe it
Are they really that naive as you say with all the evidence they sucked all year? Wow

 

[Catfish]

Per Urban-----the following Offensive Coaches have been fired.

Russ Grimm, asst. head coach/offensive line coach and run coordinator.

Mike Miller, offensive coordinator

Tommie Robinson, running backs coach

John McNulty, quarterbacks coach

Frank Reich, wide receivers coach

Chad Grimm, offensive quality control coach

Retained

Freddie Kitchens, tight ends coach

Very nearly a clean sweep. Kitchens probably was retained for producing a little something with nothing. He never really had sufficient talent to work with in my opinion.

 

[john h]

I wonder how John Lott is doing......

The Eagles are looking and trying to get the Oregon HC. If we get a real QB any new HC and GM are going to make us better. I am most happy with the movement of Graves if we replace him with a REAL GM with real GM powers.

 

[Catfish]

Re: the offensive staff mass firings - Some weird stuff coming out of NFL Net was that, as a group, the offensive players on the Cardinals "didn't see it coming."

How did that happen? From every standpoint - stats, game tape etc. - we were pretty close to rock bottom in every offensive aspect of the game. What did they expect?

I totally agree with you Jeff-----the fact that these guys didn't see it coming only shows how clueless they are as players, and what it takes to play successfully in the pros.

 

[john h]

Both moves were long overdue. Miller never looked like a competent OC. Grimm's troubles are well documented. Time to get some new blood in here to fix this putrid offense.

Michael Bidwill finally started looking like a real concerned NFL owner. Congrats to him. It all starts at the top so let it continue. My feeling about him have been somewhat reversed. He has finally asserted himself. Maybe this really is the start of the Cards we all have always wanted.

 

[Stronso]

Michael Bidwill finally started looking like a real concerned NFL owner. Congrats to him. It all starts at the top so let it continue. My feeling about him have been somewhat reversed. He has finally asserted himself. Maybe this really is the start of the Cards we all have always wanted.

God I hope so. 25 years of suck with a couple of moments in the sun is enough cruel punishment for us

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[Catfish]

Michael Bidwill finally started looking like a real concerned NFL owner. Congrats to him. It all starts at the top so let it continue. My feeling about him have been somewhat reversed. He has finally asserted himself. Maybe this really is the start of the Cards we all have always wanted.

Not yet he hasn't-----He obviously knew some time back what he wanted to do. That plan included signing Keim as GM. There is no good reason for not having him in place before the season ended. Now he is in a pissing contest with Keim over getting a contract done. Time is now wasting. It is important to get this done like 'yesterday'. The GM is critical in being on board with the plan, and should be there to help select the HC. The Bidwills now know what they want to do, but they are still behind the curve when it comes to 'how to do it'. That is just more of the same ole, same ole. He should have had a backup plan that he could go to in case any of his plans get turned down or delayed. Obviously he doesn't have one.

 

[Mulli]

Not yet he hasn't-----He obviously knew some time back what he wanted to do. That plan included signing Keim as GM. There is no good reason for not having him in place before the season ended. Now he is in a pissing contest with Keim over getting a contract done. Time is now wasting. It is important to get this done like 'yesterday'. The GM is critical in being on board with the plan, and should be there to help select the HC. The Bidwills now know what they want to do, but they are still behind the curve when it comes to 'how to do it'. That is just more of the same ole, same ole. He should have had a backup plan that he could go to in case any of his plans get turned down or delayed. Obviously he doesn't have one.

Patience, Grasshopper.

 

[D-Dogg]

Not yet he hasn't-----He obviously knew some time back what he wanted to do. That plan included signing Keim as GM. There is no good reason for not having him in place before the season ended. Now he is in a pissing contest with Keim over getting a contract done. Time is now wasting. It is important to get this done like 'yesterday'. The GM is critical in being on board with the plan, and should be there to help select the HC. The Bidwills now know what they want to do, but they are still behind the curve when it comes to 'how to do it'. That is just more of the same ole, same ole. He should have had a backup plan that he could go to in case any of his plans get turned down or delayed. Obviously he doesn't have one.

You really don't know what's going on behind the scences there.

It is clear that Mike will hire both the GM AND the HC. He isn't going to have the GM hire the HC. He made that clear. That allows him to have all options on the table, like having Reid have personnel decisions (which would be a horrible decision, IMO) but this is the route they are going.

I prefer a STRONG GM and a STRONG HC. In fact, if we went outside the organization for a strong GM, I'd be all on board for having Reid as HC. I think however, Reid would run over a rookie GM.

But right now, Mike is keeping all the cards close to his vest. He may ef it up, but HE is throwing his balls out there and I freaking admire it. I'm not sold on Keim being GM, personally. We shall see. I don't know how much he's contributed to the Suck and how much he's contributed to the Good.

It sounds weird, but I'm fully willing to put my chips in with Mike B. He is the guy who sold the city on the stadium. Who hired Whis (and Whis burned brightly before flaming out) and now had the balls to fire not only Whis, but Graves as well. Mike B wants to win. I've met him a few times, and he truly wants to win.

He's got the benefit of the doubt, here. What he does in the coming weeks will likely be the defining moment of his ownership to date.

 

[Doc Cardinal]

Grimm gone....Graves gone....and New Year's Eve.....three good reason to crack open this 18 year old bottle of single malt scotch.

 

[Cheesebeef]

You really don't know what's going on behind the scences there.

It is clear that Mike will hire both the GM AND the HC. He isn't going to have the GM hire the HC. He made that clear.

and this is why we'll never really be good. Mike Bidwill isn't a football mind. A strong GM should be hired and be able to choose his coach. That's what well run franchises do. Deciding to hire the GM and the HC separately is the move of a Bidwill or Sterling... or Jerry Jones.

 

[82CardsGrad]

and this is why we'll never really be good. Mike Bidwill isn't a football mind. A strong GM should be hired and be able to choose his coach. That's what well run franchises do. Deciding to hire the GM and the HC separately is the move of a Bidwill or Sterling... or Jerry Jones.

I don't know about that... Were Belicheck, Tomlin, Reid, Shanahan, Harbaugh and so many others hired by the GM? I don't think so...
I'm totally cool with MB grabbing this team by the damn throat and making the GM and HC decisions.
We'll see how it plays out... In the end, I wouldn't be surprised if he hires a GM first and then includes that GM in the decision-making process for the HC. However, in the end, I like the fact that MB is taking charge!

 

[D-Dogg]

and this is why we'll never really be good. Mike Bidwill isn't a football mind. A strong GM should be hired and be able to choose his coach. That's what well run franchises do. Deciding to hire the GM and the HC separately is the move of a Bidwill or Sterling... or Jerry Jones.

I don't disagree. Unless Mike B lucks out.

Or, more likely, it's a card he's holding for Andy Reid. Which makes a lot of sense.

Or, they aren't as on board with Keim as the media thinks, and are trying to grab HC while the getting is good, since EVERYONE is getting fired and there will be a lot of competition.

In a perfect world (when I run the team) you simply hire the BEST football mind you can as GM, then back the ef off and let him do work.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't know about that... Were Belicheck, Tomlin, Reid, Shanahan, Harbaugh and so many others hired by the GM? I don't think so...

every single one of those guys/teams save the Skins had SUCCESSFUL football people in charge. Bidwill is in no way shape or form a Kraft, Laurie a Rooney and the Niners had a GM when they signed Harbaugh.

hire an established football mind, give him the power to make football decisions and get out of the freaking way. Only THEN will I believe that Bidwill's serious about winning.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't know about that... Were Belicheck, Tomlin, Reid, Shanahan, Harbaugh and so many others hired by the GM? I don't think so...
I'm totally cool with MB grabbing this team by the damn throat and making the GM and HC decisions.
We'll see how it plays out... In the end, I wouldn't be surprised if he hires a GM first and then includes that GM in the decision-making process for the HC. However, in the end, I like the fact that MB is taking charge!

there's a reason that the NFL Network just listed us as the WORST HC job available. It's because a guy who knows nothing about football is intent on making football decisions. Basically... we're like the Cowboys... without the $. Who the hell would want to go there?