Guessing Arians' Choices at QB

[Lagerfilled]

Don't agree... I'd take Dennis Dixon in a heartbeat! He can throw, he can run, and he's gritty as all get out.

 

[Gottalean]

I don't want big Ben I would rather get Tony Romo if that's the type of move we make. I realy like Geno Smith, his stock is gonna rise in the next few months just watch, so I doubt he will make it passed the 3rd pick. but he is realy the only QB worth drafting in the 1st round. No to Tyler Wilson, No to Mike glennon. Cardinals fans seem to forget the most important aspect of a QBs game. accuracy! Both are horribly inaccurate! No more big arms that can't fit it in a tight window. if we do draft a QB that's not Geno I say we get Barkley.. I know I know another USC QB but he is not as bad as either of the other 2 Guys. he makes bad decisions some times but he can throw an accurate ball and has pretty good touch on deeper passes. Wilson has absolutely no touch on his deep ball and bad mechanics and glennon misses receivers bad and does it a lot. he is another John Skelton but not as good. if we can't get them then get nassib, Manuel, or Landry Jones in that order we can get one of them late so we won't waste a pick on a project

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I dont think any part of that description brings Matt Barkley to mind.

Thats because you dont pay enough attention and are using lazy analysis. Matt Barkley is not Matt Leinart. He is not your typical "USC Quarterback" . Barkley may or may not be a success in the NFL but it wont be for lack of preperation or intensity.

Read the below comparison from Pete Carroll with the ultra intense and prepared Russell Wilson.

"Certain things that they bring in terms of responsibility; understanding the dynamics of the position; the requirements to run your life in accordance with that responsibility; working really hard; studying really hard; always being on point; being able to stand up in front of the team, stand up in front of the media and handle yourself; competitiveness. All of those things are the same."

 

[Phrazbit]

Thats because you dont pay enough attention and are using lazy analysis. Matt Barkley is not Matt Leinart. He is not your typical "USC Quarterback" . Barkley may or may not be a success in the NFL but it wont be for lack of preperation or intensity.

Read the below comparison from Pete Carroll with the ultra intense and prepared Russell Wilson.

"Certain things that they bring in terms of responsibility; understanding the dynamics of the position; the requirements to run your life in accordance with that responsibility; working really hard; studying really hard; always being on point; being able to stand up in front of the team, stand up in front of the media and handle yourself; competitiveness. All of those things are the same."

lol, whatever. "Grit" in no way shape or form describes Matt Barkley, neither does being able to hit guys on their outside shoulder. This guy is horrible under pressure and really struggles to squeeze passes into tight places.

Russell Wilson was the heart and soul of a scoring machine at Wisconsin that won 11 games. Matt Barkley was the captain of one of the most disappointing USC teams in recent memory and the year ended with a locker room brawl because teammates questioned his toughness.

Comparing those 2, especially as leaders, is an absolute joke.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

lol, whatever. "Grit" in no way shape or form describes Matt Barkley, neither does being able to hit guys on their outside shoulder. This guy is horrible under pressure and really struggles to squeeze passes into tight places.

Russell Wilson was the heart and soul of a scoring machine at Wisconsin that won 11 games. Matt Barkley was the captain of one of the most disappointing USC teams in recent memory and the year ended with a locker room brawl because teammates questioned his toughness.

Comparing those 2, especially as leaders, is an absolute joke.

Actually Lane Kiffin is the joke and the reason for USC having a bad year but then again you dont pay enough attention so ill let you google "Lane" "Kiffin" and get back to me.

Ready?

Ok good. So anyway Ill take Pete Carroll 2 monthes ago - ya know the guy who coached them both - over an internet jockey. Thats just me though.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/wilson-378470-carroll-first.html

BTW I bet you were repping Wilson that hard before the season. You know before you had the benefit of watching the whole season like the rest of us.

 

[Phrazbit]

Actually Lane Kiffin is the joke and the reason for USC having a bad year but then again you dont pay enough attention so ill let you google "Lane" "Kiffin" and get back to me.

Ready?

Ok good. So anyway Ill take Pete Carroll 2 monthes ago - ya know the guy who coached them both - over an internet jockey. Thats just me though.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/wilson-378470-carroll-first.html

BTW I bet you were repping Wilson that hard before the season. You know before you had the benefit of watching the whole season like the rest of us.

I doubted Wilson because of his size, but the numbers were there. Barkley has none of that going for him, not the numbers, not the results, not the "grit", the laughable idea that he can hit back shoulder throws on a consistent basis and he has shown nothing of leadership.

And unless Barkley was possessed by Kiffin and Lane was forcing him to make those crap throws and crumble under pressure then the excuse doesn't fly.

And no, I dont remotely trust what Pete Carroll has to say on the issue, he is the farthest thing from an unbiased source.

 

[juza76]

With this new hire i guess a qb will be drafted in the 1st round

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Doesn't Tom Moore make getting Ryan Mallett essential?

#7 for Mallett/3rd or 4th?

 

[desertdawg]

Get the best QB in the draft for once.

 

[thephoenixson28]

You think we can get Tom Brady for 3 first. Hahaha

 

[john h]

Normally I think you are right---but with the success BA had with other young QBs, I think he is confident enough to put a rookie in there from day one.

But---what would answer both of our questions is a trade for a QB, which I think is a very strong possibility.

A trade for Big Ben may not be as far-fetched as some might think---this is just a hunch, but knowing the Rooneys, it wouldn't surprise me at all if behind the scenes they are looking for ways to move on from Big Ben.

Seems to me that we passed over Big Ben in the draft when he came out?? Now we might give up 4 or 5 draft choices for him? Truth is often stranger than fiction.

 

[JeffGollin]

Get the best QB in the draft for once.

I'd modify that statement to: "Don't pass up the best QB in the draft if you feel he's a surefire answer to your QB situation."

Sometimes the best QB in a draft is nowhere as good as last year's best QB in the draft or next year's.

There are times when you're better off gritting your teeth and passing on the top dude if you feel he's too risky or can't get the job done. (For every Luck or a Manning, there's a Ryan Leaf or that 1st round bust from Oakland everybody loved).

Instead of worrying about draft ranking, we'd be well-advised to focus on a prospect's skill set (both current and potential), receptiveness to coaching and how much (& quickly) he should develop within the context of what the team plans to do offensively.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I'd modify that statement to: "Don't pass up the best QB in the draft if you feel he's a surefire answer to your QB situation."

Sometimes the best QB in a draft is nowhere as good as last year's best QB in the draft or next year's.

There are times when you're better off gritting your teeth and passing on the top dude if you feel he's too risky or can't get the job done. (For every Luck or a Manning, there's a Ryan Leaf or that 1st round bust from Oakland everybody loved).

Instead of worrying about draft ranking, we'd be well-advised to focus on a prospect's skill set (both current and potential), receptiveness to coaching and how much (& quickly) he should develop within the context of what the team plans to do offensively.

Otherwise you might draft Leinart or Vince Young instead of Cutler for instance..

Or Alex Smith instead of Aaron Rodgers..

 

[Metcalf Rules]

QB:


Trade?

Ben Roethlisberger (PIT)---while the Rooneys appear to be content with Big Ben, they might be tempted to go in a different direction if there's a young QB they like near the top of this draft. The #7 pick could be very intriguing for them, as they could also package a deal to move up to the top of the draft, if let's say they are enamored with Geno Smith. Price? The #7 pick this year, the 2nd round pick in 2014 and the 3rd round pick in 2015.

Mitch, I'll see your Roethlisberger trade idea and raise you a Cutler.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/1772...arians-thinks-highly-of-bears-jay-cutler.html

 

[Gottalean]

No to big Ben, yes to Cutler.

The difference between Young, Leinart , and Leaf is that these guys had good skill sets, yet thier. character was in question? And I think that was what hurt them in the end. Geno Smith may not have RGIII's. same skill set, but he undoubtedly. has the same type of character. That's Wat will be so appealing to NFL scouts, IMO

 

[Covert Rain]

this is completely insane and why I can never take anything you say remotely seriously. The Steelers... are going to give up a potential HOF QB for a high pick in what everyone acknowledges is a QB deficient draft? Seriously... how the hell can anyone even begin to convince themselves this is even a remote possibility?

This. There is zero chance. This is not the same with Peyton. Peyton was at the end of his career in many eyes and for the most part people thought he would never be the same QB. They had what many considered as close to a lock as you can get waiting. So, if your Indy, it was not that hard of a decision.

Ben on the other hand is still at the top of his game and not a "re-tread" by any stretch. In fact, all the OC's that guy has had in his career, I am amazed he has done what he has done. If we could get our hands on Ben...I take him in a heartbeat....providing we can protect him. Having said that he is still one of the best QB's after a taking a hit. Here he might take it to a new level. LOL.

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