Haason Reddick getting praise

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washington had to pair up with gerald hayes
what does this wings mean
if u are good u can play solid with minter next to u
 

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washington had to pair up with gerald hayes
what does this wings mean
if u are good u can play solid with minter next to u
DWash had a couple of good seasons but now? Right now Minter is better than DWash at least he's on a roster.
 

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A 265lb D-end in a 3-4 gets run over and Jones is not particularly good against the run. Move him inside and you negate his strength and true value to this "D". IMO

The Patriots slid Jones down to RDE in their base from time to time and Jones played very well there, especially versus the run. In fact, they really liked the inside QB pressures he got from that spot. Remember that the base 34 is only on the field for about 30% of the snaps. Plus, Jones is awkward at OLB...lacks lateral agility.
 

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The Patriots slid Jones down to RDE in their base from time to time and Jones played very well there, especially versus the run. In fact, they really liked the inside QB pressures he got from that spot. Remember that the base 34 is only on the field for about 30% of the snaps. Plus, Jones is awkward at OLB...lacks lateral agility.
Only problem is Jones lost weight this off season. But situationally it could work. I like Reddick as a blitzer up the gut or off the edge. I hope they put him in varied blitz packages to use that rush ability.

I wonder if he'll be in the dime package?
 

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Critics of Reddick should remember that he's learning a new position with new responsibilities, so it's going to take at least a year IMO before he grasps what he's actually doing.

I'm with Mitch, play him off the edge in pass rush situations & limit his snaps during the season at ILB. IMO Bynes can & should beat out Scoobey too take up the slack in the middle. I just don't think an unprepared ILB needs to be starting on a playoff caliber defense & team.
 
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I dont think Reddick was ever going to start unless Bucannon is still hurt. Reddick will be used situationally.
 

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Critics of Reddick should remember that he's learning a new position with new responsibilities, so it's going to take at least a year IMO before he grasps what he's actually doing.

I'm with Mitch, play him off the edge in pass rush situations & limit his snaps during the season at ILB. IMO Bynes can & should beat out Scoobey too take up the slack in the middle. I just don't think an unprepared ILB needs to be starting on a playoff caliber defense & team.

Boo hoo. You're a big boy, getting paid big dollars. No one's making excuses for you. When you're a starting middle linebacker, you either play like a starting-caliber player, or you find another line of work.
 

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I agree with K-9.

We're always inclined to give highly touted rookies benefit of the doubt and cut them more slack "so they can get up to NFL speed."

Meanwhile it takes a new signee like Bynes 4 days to learn the Cardinal playbook and make a half-dozen plays in his first preseason game. Or a smart guy like #36 to miss OTA's but still make his presence known almost immediately. (& how long did it take for the Badger to make an impression)?

I tend to be biased toward assuming that early-bloomers are better bets than more heralded late bloomers.
 
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I agree with K-9.

We're always inclined to give highly touted rookies benefit of the doubt and cut them more slack "so they can get up to NFL speed."

Meanwhile it takes a new signee like Bynes 4 days to learn the Cardinal playbook and make a half-dozen plays in his first preseason game. Or a smart guy like #36 to miss OTA's but still make his presence known almost immediately. (& how long did it take for the Badger to make an impression)?

I tend to be biased toward assuming that early-bloomers are better bets than more heralded late bloomers.

Bynes is a vet who has played the position before. #36 played his position in college. Reddick was an OLB in college & is now learning how to play ILB.
 

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Bynes is a vet who has played the position before. #36 played his position in college. Reddick was an OLB in college & is now learning how to play ILB.
All 3 guys are newcomers to the Cardinal defensive system.Two of them are taking to it like a duck to water. That doesn't make the 3rd guy a bust by any means, but I do think it makes him a tad riskier.
 

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Boo hoo. You're a big boy, getting paid big dollars. No one's making excuses for you. When you're a starting middle linebacker, you either play like a starting-caliber player, or you find another line of work.

I agree with you but it's not Reddick's fault he was drafted to play a position he had never played before. If this doesn't work out at ILB, I place 100% of the responsibility on the Cardinals.
 

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I agree with you but it's not Reddick's fault he was drafted to play a position he had never played before. If this doesn't work out at ILB, I place 100% of the responsibility on the Cardinals.

agreed.

this a blast Keim kinda pick. Falls on his shoulders if he's boom or bust, not the kid's, IMO.
 
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True which is why he is getting some praise & looks great in flashes. Instincts will come once he has a full grasp of the position.
Yup. Way too soon to be picking in the kid. Hopefully he is a backup/situational player this year as expected and next year I'll start expecting him to do big things as a starter

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Boo hoo. You're a big boy, getting paid big dollars. No one's making excuses for you. When you're a starting middle linebacker, you either play like a starting-caliber player, or you find another line of work.
That's just dumb IMO. Expecting a kid to know the in's & out of a new position and play like a guy who's played much of his HS & college career at a position is ridiculous expectation regardless of where he's drafted. I still say the kids gonna be a helluva player, it's gonna take some time.
 

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Yup. Way too soon to be picking in the kid. Hopefully he is a backup/situational player this year as expected and next year I'll start expecting him to do big things as a starter

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No ones picking on him, but he's expected to make an immediate impact. That was the book on him when he was drafted in the top 10. Top 10 picks don't sit on the bench in the NFL. Anything less than 6 sacks and 45% of the defensive snaps should be troubling.

Deone Bucannon is no great shakes. If a top 10 pick can't beat him out, that's a bad sign. Kevin Minter couldn't oust the hollowed out shell of Larry Foote in his second year and many y'all were saying it was no problem.

That's just dumb IMO. Expecting a kid to know the in's & out of a new position and play like a guy who's played much of his HS & college career at a position is ridiculous expectation regardless of where he's drafted. I still say the kids gonna be a helluva player, it's gonna take some time.

Sorry. That's his job. No one in the NFL is on scholarship or keeping up the team GPA.
 

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Sorry. That's his job. No one in the NFL is on scholarship or keeping up the team GPA.
Your right but chances are probably 60-70% of the 1st round picks won't even start week 1 because of being an inexperienced rook & that's not even factoring in a position switch.

Let's hope Buc is back though I luv the player Riddick is going to be at some point! After all I was touting him & Corey Davis for Big Red months before the draft & laughed at by many :mrgreen:. Both went high, so maybe Keim needs to add me to his staff lol
 

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No ones picking on him, but he's expected to make an immediate impact. That was the book on him when he was drafted in the top 10. Top 10 picks don't sit on the bench in the NFL.
Unless i killed too many brain cells between April and now, i'm pretty sure Reddick was drafted 13th, not in the top 10.
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Boo hoo. You're a big boy, getting paid big dollars. No one's making excuses for you. When you're a starting middle linebacker, you either play like a starting-caliber player, or you find another line of work.
It's about time we get us a LBer though. Look at all the teams around the league that's had great LBers. Us? Well..
 

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He looks nothing like DWash. DWash popped out of the screen in his first preseason games. His instincts at diagnosing a play were off the charts. Reddick? Not so much, and that's concerning.

D wash still never was picked up, yes he did pop out he was a beast
 

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