Haley in AZ Today For Interview

[Duckjake]

The Cardinals have scored more points than their opponents only 5 times since Coryell left. Haley was OC for two of those five seasons. Warner was QB for 3 of the 5.

Neil Lomax and the 1984 team has the fourth.

Trivia Question which Cardinal team has the 5th?

 

[earthsci]

The Cardinals have scored more points than their opponents only 5 times since Coryell left. Haley was OC for two of those five seasons. Warner was QB for 3 of the 5.

Neil Lomax and the 1984 team has the fourth.

Trivia Question which Cardinal team has the 5th?

1993. It would have been really great to see Bugal get one more year. We only lost one game by more than a TD.

 

[AZCardsWin]

The fact that the Steelers brought him in as O.C. is significant. They don't usually hire incompetents. He's not my first choice, but he was part of a very good Cardinal offense during the Super Bowl run. That obviously impressed the Steelers who brought him aboard when they got a chance.

With every passing day that the Cardinals don't announce a head coach its pointing more and more to Todd Haley as the target. I base this on the evidence:

1. If the choice was Ray Horton it would of been announced by now. His choices of an inexperienced OC and DC will probably be his downfall.

2. Haley waited until Cardinals had a GM in place before he interviewed. That speaks volumes. He has a great repore with new GM Keim.

3. Haleys interview with Cardinals was as secretive as the Bin Laden raid. With so much effort going into making the interview top secret - unlike the other Cardinals interviews which were publicly announced- you have to think Haley is a top the list.

4. New GM Keim talked specifically about TE Rob Housler at his press conference. Haley worked wonders with Steelers TE Heath Miller this year.

5. When the Cardinals fired the HC and GM I had the feeling the replacements would never "both" be from within. Once Keim got promoted, once the Browns passed on Horton which locked him in as our DC, the peices fell into place to bring Todd Haley back to Arizona.

Go Cardinals!
-Tim
@SheriffK9NJ

 

[Superfuzz]

No hate for Q, I still own 3 of his jerseys. He was my favorite player, but that "me me first" at the NFC Championship game sure tarnished his image, at least in my eyes. When I talked to him at training camp in 08, he was a jerk to me and my granddaughter, but I wrote that off as him having a bad day. Still liked the way he played the game.

Agree with your sentiments. Do tell about your experience meeting him...

 

[SunsTzu]

With every passing day that the Cardinals don't announce a head coach its pointing more and more to Todd Haley as the target.

Disagree, the longer it drags out the more it seems McCoy is the target since he's the only one they can't name.

 

[JeffGollin]

Hey Jeff: Sabin coached for the Dolphins I think. Last year I do not think any coach in the NFL could have helped the Cards. Our problems were much deeper than that and still are. I think we are probably some years away from respectability even if we hire good people. Looking at our two Offensive tackles I think I could have run around them. Grimm was not going to coach them out of that. Not that he is a good coach but how was he as a coach a Pittsburgh? I do not recall but Pittsburgh has rarely been bad. I am glad the entire group is gone at AZ as we needed a major change. Some of the things that Michael Bidwill has recently said or not said has scared me but we will see. Who is more important to good team? Good coaches or good players? I tend to think that good players can make a coach look better than he is? Peyton Manning is still the same old Peyton Manning even with new coaches and a new team. Can one really coach a great RB? These guys largely run by instinct, speed, and strength. God sort of gave them that. Of course some position players can greatly be helped by a good coach but he must be the right coach for that player and that team. Many or most hate Grimm. From his results he must not be very good but I am no line coach so have no idea. Same will be for our new line coach. I am most totally involved with us getting a QB as IMHO he will be 50% of our teams success.

Grimm was on our staff a long enough time to either coach-up the linemen we already had or bring in new guys who could get the job done. Didn't happen. If anything, we went backward in recent years. Maybe you can pin the responsibility for this on the FO, but at some point, Grimm's hair should have been on fire and he should have been screaming bloody murder for better OL talent.

 

[Duckjake]

1993. It would have been really great to see Bugal get one more year. We only lost one game by more than a TD.

The QBs were Steve Buerlein and Chris Chandler. Other than Plummer I believe they were the only Cardinal QBs to go to another team and have success as anything other than a punter.

Buerlein threw for 4,436 yards and 36TDs for the Panthers in 1999 and Chandler managed the Falcons to the SB in 1998.

 

[AZCardsWin]

The Cardinals have scored more points than their opponents only 5 times since Coryell left. Haley was OC for two of those five seasons.

With Denver out of the playoffs Cardinals will test the water with McCoy - who now will have his pick of HC jobs. Cardinals usually not one to win bidding wars so once McCoy makes his decision expect Cardinals to immediately follow. At this point - with Horton and the defenisive coaches in place- McCoy or Haley would be a great fit.

Go Cardinals!
-Tim
@SheriffK9NJ

 

[AZCardsWin]

Todd turned the KC Chief team around in his 2nd year and had them in the playoffs.

Haley is a Bill Parcels protege. He is tough, he is solid. Players do respect him as he gets in their face. I think he would be successful here as the HC.

We should be hearing something today. I think we can't go wrong with McCoy or Todd Haley. Very excited.

Go Cardinals!
-Tim
@SheriffK9NJ

 

[AZCardsWin]

Disagree, the longer it drags out the more it seems McCoy is the target since he's the only one they can't name.

With McCoy out of the running (rumored to be hired by Chargers) it leaves Horton and his inexperienced OC and DC coordinators or Todd Haley with Horton at DC. If its those two choices Im leaning Todd Haley.

 

[JeffGollin]

With McCoy out of the running (rumored to be hired by Chargers) it leaves Horton and his inexperienced OC and DC coordinators or Todd Haley with Horton at DC. If its those two choices Im leaning Todd Haley.

I don't think this is necessarily true. I don't think the interviewing or decision-making process is necessarily over.

Haley isn't the only remaining option. Mike Mularkey is still looking for an OC job, and Jay Gruden hasn't been signed by anyone yet. I'd be happiest with Haley out of the picture, Horton as our HC and either of the other two (or a bright young offensive mind) as OC.

 

[HoodieBets]

I don't think this is necessarily true. I don't think the interviewing or decision-making process is necessarily over.

Haley isn't the only remaining option. Mike Mularkey is still looking for an OC job, and Jay Gruden hasn't been signed by anyone yet. I'd be happiest with Haley out of the picture, Horton as our HC and either of the other two (or a bright young offensive mind) as OC.

Gruden cant come here as OC he was not fired by cincy and they would not let him out of his contract for a lateral move.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Bruce Arians as the HC is perhaps the forgotten name in this speculation upon speculation.

 

[HoodieBets]

Bruce Arians as the HC is perhaps the forgotten name in this speculation upon speculation.

I already responded to another of your posts touting Arians but he is a defensive guy and would want to run his own scheme so Horton would prob be let go. Cards want to keep Horton as DC

 

[Totally_Red]

I already responded to another of your posts touting Arians but he is a defensive guy and would want to run his own scheme so Horton would prob be let go. Cards want to keep Horton as DC

Near as I can tell his entire career has been spent on the offensive side of the ball since his wishbone QB days at Virginia Tech.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Arians

 

[JeffGollin]

I already responded to another of your posts touting Arians but he is a defensive guy and would want to run his own scheme so Horton would prob be let go. Cards want to keep Horton as DC

I'm confused. Arians is an OC - an OC who did a pretty good job developing Andrew Luck as a rookie. Why do you say he's a "defensive guy?" If anything, his background as Steeler OC when Horton was Steeler DC would make one complement the other, no?

 

[GuernseyCard]

I already responded to another of your posts touting Arians but he is a defensive guy and would want to run his own scheme so Horton would prob be let go. Cards want to keep Horton as DC

Guess that's why Big Ben was up in arms when Pitt fired him.

 

[kerouac9]

Bruce Arians as the HC is perhaps the forgotten name in this speculation upon speculation.

I believe that is because the Cards haven't announced that they're interviewing him. Dude was in the hospital with flu for a pretty big playoff game. That's not necessarily a disqualifier, but he's 60 years old. Pittsburgh essentially ran him off in the same way they ran off Bill Cowher, announcing his retirement at the end of his contract.

 

[Shane]

I'm confused. Arians is an OC - an OC who did a pretty good job developing Andrew Luck as a rookie. Why do you say he's a "defensive guy?" If anything, his background as Steeler OC when Horton was Steeler DC would make one complement the other, no?

Come on Jeff. I like Arians but putting Luck as a feather in his cap is kind of a stretch. How much developing do you think Luck really needed?

 

[GuernseyCard]

I believe that is because the Cards haven't announced that they're interviewing him. Dude was in the hospital with flu for a pretty big playoff game. That's not necessarily a disqualifier, but he's 60 years old. Pittsburgh essentially ran him off in the same way they ran off Bill Cowher, announcing his retirement at the end of his contract.

I believe he was in hospital with a severe inner ear infection, which can happen at any age. If you're offering his age as info, thank you. If it's proferred as a reflection on his ability to do the job, it would be the least of my concerns.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Come on Jeff. I like Arians but putting Luck as a feather in his cap is kind of a stretch. How much developing do you think Luck really needed?

Given his completion percentage and number of interceptions, he's still in need of some 'development'. He's hardly a finished product and I bet he gives Arians more credit than you.

 

[CtCardinals78]

http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000126783/

 

[JeffGollin]

Come on Jeff. I like Arians but putting Luck as a feather in his cap is kind of a stretch. How much developing do you think Luck really needed?

Shane - How many games did Indy win a year ago without Luck? How many games did they win this past season with the rook?

Not that Luck didn't have unusual talent, but ask yourself this:

How many games would he have won in his first year in Indy if his OC was Miller and not Arians?

 

[Buckybird]

How many games would he have won in his first year in Indy if his OC was Miller and not Arians?

14-15 Miller just needed a competent QB
Remember all the peeps that said we were a playoff team with almost anyone not named Skelton, Kolb or Lindley? Lol

 

[ajcardfan]

Not that Luck didn't have unusual talent, but ask yourself this:

How many games would he have won in his first year in Indy if his OC was Miller and not Arians?

I'm pretty confident that Miller would've won more games in Indy with Luck, than he did with the Cardinals and the dregs we had as QBs. The post-Kolb stretch of games would be no contest.


But, I tend to think coaches are given to much credit and to much blame.