Hall of Fame Worthy ?

[RugbyMuffin]

I apologize for this Off Topic Thread, but I didn't know where to put it on the forum. I figured the mods would find the best place.

Anyway here is the preliminary list of players that are eligible for the football Hall of Fame.

Who is worthy?

QB:
Ken Anderson
Randall Cunningham
Boomer Esiason
Jim Plunkett
Phil Simms
Ken Stabler
Joe Theismann
Danny White
Doug Williams

RB:
Ottis Anderson
Roger Craig
Terrell Davis
Eric Metcalf
Herschel Walker
Ricky Watters

WR:
Cliff Branch
Harold Carmichael
Cris Carter
Dwight Clark
Gary Clark
Isaac Curtis
Henry Ellard
Roy Green
Art Monk
Herman Moore
Drew Pearson
Andre Reed

OL:
Tony Boselli, T
Lomas Brown, T
Jim Covert, T
Dermontti Dawson, C
Russ Grimm, G
Jay Hilgenberg, C
Kent Hill, G/T
Chris Hinton, G/T
Kent Hull, C
Joe Jacoby, T
Mike Kenn, T
Bob Kuechenberg, G
Jim Lachey, T
Mark May, T/G/C
Randall McDaniel, G
Jeff Van Note, C
Richmond Webb, T
Steve Wisniewski, G
Gary Zimmerman, T

DL:
Ray Childress, DT/DE
Fred Dean, DE
Richard Dent, DE
Chris Doleman, DE/LB
Jacob Green, DE
Charles Haley, DE/LB
Jim Jeffcoat, DE
Ed "Too Tall" Jones, DE
Cortez Kennedy, DT
Joe Klecko, DE/DT/NT
Fred Smerlas, NT

LB:
Cornelius Bennett
Matt Blair
Robert Brazile
Randy Gradishar
Kevin Greene
Ken Harvey
Rickey Jackson
Levon Kirkland
Wilber Marshall
Clay Matthews
Karl Mecklenburg
Sam Mills
Hardy Nickerson
Pat Swilling
Darryl Talley
Derrick Thomas
Andre Tippett

DB:
Eric Allen, CB
Steve Atwater, S
Joey Browner, S
LeRoy Butler, S
Raymond Clayborn, CB
Nolan Cromwell, S
Kenny Easley, S
Darrell Green, CB
Lester Hayes, CB
Albert Lewis, CB
Ken Riley, CB
Donnie Shell, S
Louis Wright, CB

ST:
Ray Guy, P
Nick Lowery, K
Reggie Roby, P
Elbert Shelley, ST/S
Steve Tasker, ST/WR

Coaches:
Don Coryell
Tom Flores
Jimmy Johnson
Chuck Knox
Buddy Parker
Clark Shaughnessy
Ernie Zampese

 

[abomb]

Who is worthy?

QB:
Ken Anderson
Randall Cunningham
Boomer Esiason
Jim Plunkett
Phil Simms
Ken Stabler
Joe Theismann
Danny White
Doug Williams

RB:
Ottis Anderson
Roger Craig
Terrell Davis
Eric Metcalf
Herschel Walker
Ricky Watters

WR:
Cliff Branch
Harold Carmichael
Cris Carter
Dwight Clark
Gary Clark
Isaac Curtis
Henry Ellard
Roy Green
Art Monk
Herman Moore
Drew Pearson
Andre Reed

OL:
Tony Boselli, T
Lomas Brown, T
Jim Covert, T
Dermontti Dawson, C
Russ Grimm, G
Jay Hilgenberg, C
Kent Hill, G/T
Chris Hinton, G/T
Kent Hull, C
Joe Jacoby, T
Mike Kenn, T
Bob Kuechenberg, G
Jim Lachey, T
Mark May, T/G/C
Randall McDaniel, G
Jeff Van Note, C
Richmond Webb, T
Steve Wisniewski, G
Gary Zimmerman, T

DL:
Ray Childress, DT/DE
Fred Dean, DE
Richard Dent, DE
Chris Doleman, DE/LB
Jacob Green, DE
Charles Haley, DE/LB
Jim Jeffcoat, DE
Ed "Too Tall" Jones, DE
Cortez Kennedy, DT
Joe Klecko, DE/DT/NT
Fred Smerlas, NT

LB:
Cornelius Bennett
Matt Blair
Robert Brazile
Randy Gradishar
Kevin Greene
Ken Harvey
Rickey Jackson
Levon Kirkland
Wilber Marshall
Clay Matthews
Karl Mecklenburg
Sam Mills
Hardy Nickerson
Pat Swilling
Darryl Talley
Derrick Thomas
Andre Tippett

DB:
Eric Allen, CB
Steve Atwater, S
Joey Browner, S
LeRoy Butler, S
Raymond Clayborn, CB
Nolan Cromwell, S
Kenny Easley, S
Darrell Green, CB
Lester Hayes, CB
Albert Lewis, CB
Ken Riley, CB
Donnie Shell, S
Louis Wright, CB

ST:
Ray Guy, P
Nick Lowery, K
Reggie Roby, P
Elbert Shelley, ST/S
Steve Tasker, ST/WR

Coaches:
Don Coryell
Tom Flores
Jimmy Johnson
Chuck Knox
Buddy Parker
Clark Shaughnessy
Ernie Zampese

Be warned, my opinion doesnt matter much.

There is a ridiculous under representation of OL and DL in the HOF.

 

[Pariah]

I think these guys are in the conversation:

QB:
Randall Cunningham
Jim Plunkett
Phil Simms
Ken Stabler
Joe Theismann
Danny White
Doug Williams

RB:
Ottis Anderson
Roger Craig
Terrell Davis
Herschel Walker


WR:
Cliff Branch
Harold Carmichael
Cris Carter
Dwight Clark
Gary Clark
Art Monk
Drew Pearson
Andre Reed

OL:
Tony Boselli, T
Lomas Brown, T
Russ Grimm, G
Chris Hinton, G/T
Joe Jacoby, T
Steve Wisniewski, G
Gary Zimmerman, T

DL:
Richard Dent, DE
Charles Haley, DE/LB
Ed "Too Tall" Jones, DE
Cortez Kennedy, DT
Joe Klecko, DE/DT/NT

LB:

Randy Gradishar
Wilber Marshall
Clay Matthews
Karl Mecklenburg
Sam Mills
Derrick Thomas
Andre Tippett

DB:
Eric Allen, CB
Steve Atwater, S
Kenny Easley, S
Darrell Green, CB
Lester Hayes, CB
Louis Wright, CB

ST:
Ray Guy, P
Nick Lowery, K
Reggie Roby, P
Steve Tasker, ST/WR

Coaches:
Don Coryell
Jimmy Johnson
Chuck Knox

 

[chicards11]

Be warned, my opinion doesnt matter much.

There is a ridiculous under representation of OL and DL in the HOF.

LOLOLOLOL

please explain your thinking behind Kevin Greene being inducted.....

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Who is worthy? - This is my take, My favorites in bold

QB:
Ken Stabler
Joe Theismann

RB: - (I don't think TD should get in)
Ottis Anderson
Roger Craig
Eric Metcalf

WR: - I can wish (Roy Green) but it ain't gonna happen
Cris Carter
Isaac Curtis
Henry Ellard
Art Monk

OL:
Dermontti Dawson, C
Russ Grimm, G
Kent Hull, C
Joe Jacoby, T
Randall McDaniel, G
Richmond Webb, T
Steve Wisniewski, G

DL:
Richard Dent, DE
Chris Doleman, DE/LB
Charles Haley, DE/LB
Jim Jeffcoat, DE

LB:
Kevin Greene
Sam Mills
Hardy Nickerson
Derrick Thomas

DB:
Eric Allen, CB
Steve Atwater, S
Darrell Green, CB
Lester Hayes, CB

ST:
Ray Guy, P
Nick Lowery, K

Coaches:
Don Coryell
Tom Flores
Chuck Knox

 

[Pariah]

Maybe I misunderstood the question. Are we to be naming the guys we think should/will go in this year, or who is HOF "worthy?"

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Maybe I misunderstood the question. Are we to be naming the guys we think should/will go in this year, or who is HOF "worthy?"

Nope. You are on point.

Whether it be this year or in the future, are any of these guys worthy of the Hall?

 

[CardLogic]

I'd further narrow it...

QB:
Ken Stabler

RB:
Roger Craig

WR:
Henry Ellard
Art Monk

OL: (couldn't decide which one of these three)
Bob Kuechenberg, G
Randall McDaniel, G
Steve Wisniewski, G

DL:
Fred Smerlas, NT - as much as anyone defined the NT position

LB:

DB:
Darrell Green, CB
Lester Hayes, CB

ST:
Ray Guy, P

Coaches:
Ernie Zampese

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Tasker already got in the hall, didn't he?

 

[Russ Smith]

None of the Qb's, Stabler had too many picks.

I like Ottis Anderson and Roger Craig. Davis was brilliant but short career 50/50 on him.

Bunch of those WR's should have a shot, Monk probably the best on the list.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

None of the Qb's, Stabler had too many picks.

I like Ottis Anderson and Roger Craig. Davis was brilliant but short career 50/50 on him.

Bunch of those WR's should have a shot, Monk probably the best on the list.

Cris Carter will definitely make it in, as well as Monk.

 

[Pariah]

as well as Monk.

People have been saying that for years.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

People have been saying that for years.

He will get in, he just isn't a first ballot guy.

 

[Russ Smith]

He will get in, he just isn't a first ballot guy.

Yeah I think he's right on the cusp needs a down year to get in. Was a great player and had a pretty long career.

Carter had more catches and nearly twice as many TD's but played in a more pass happy era on a pass happy team that padded his stats a bit. I'd have no problem with Carter getting in though he was terrific, statistically better than Monk although my own personal opinion is Art was better.

 

[D-Dogg]

Randall Cunningham is one of the best QBs I've ever seen play.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Randall Cunningham is one of the best QBs I've ever seen play.

Not sure if he is an HOF guy though.

 

[Pariah]

Not sure if he is an HOF guy though.

Like Hell. He defined the modern "rushing QB."

 

[D-Dogg]

Not sure if he is an HOF guy though.

http://www.slate.com/?id=2070146

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Like Hell. He defined the modern "rushing QB."

Absolutely, and he was my favorite player back in the day. I just don't know that defining "rushing QB" is enough to put him in the hall. If he does get in, his last push with Minnesota will be the reason.

3 MVP awards will probably do it though.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Never getting to the Superbowl will turn away voters though.

 

[Shane]

Like Hell. He defined the modern "rushing QB."

yea but he was really only a decent running QB for 6 out of his 17 years in the league.

He has a comp% a whole 4 points under 60% which is the benchmark IMO for "good" in the modern football era which he payed in.

Didnt reach 30,000 yards in 17 years either.

However his TD/int ration is phenomenal although he only had 200 TD's. Which is a dismal 11 per year as a passer.

I understand he was a back-up for a few years and that he redefined what a running QB was. But if you look at the body of work and no real defining moments in big games either. I dont believe him to HOF worthy.

Fun to watch? Hell yea. HOF? No.

But then again they let CRAPPY Lynn Swann in so anything could happen.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

But then again they let CRAPPY Lynn Swann in so anything could happen.

Perception.

If it weren't for that catch, he doesn't get in, IMO.

 

[Mulli]

Like Hell. He defined the modern "rushing QB."

Not Steve Young or Elway?

 

[Shane]

None of the Qb's, Stabler had too many picks.

I like Ottis Anderson and Roger Craig. Davis was brilliant but short career 50/50 on him.

Bunch of those WR's should have a shot, Monk probably the best on the list.

Sorry Russ but Terrell Davis has HOF written all over him. That guy was as dominant a RB in his short career as any RB in history especially during that 4 year run. He had a 2,000 yard season and has two SB rings doesn't he? Hes in IMO. Maybe not first or second ballot. But IMO opinion he eventually gets in.

 

[Pariah]

I dont believe him to HOF worthy.

It's a lock, then. Within 3 years Cunningham has his bust in Canton.