IMO having already missed 15 games, he will win an appeal and get 4-6 games instead.
Hardy suspended for 10 games
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IMO having already missed 15 games, he will win an appeal and get 4-6 games instead.
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Soon to be released imo. The outcry on radio here in Dallas now is going to leave 
Jones no choice.
Jones no choice.
I have heard about four separate instances but in a quick google, I only found the one main offense so only listed that one.
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From the NFL Investigation report:
“The NFL’s investigation concluded that Hardy violated the Personal Conduct Policy by using physical force against Nicole Holder in at least four instances,” the release explains. “First, he used physical force against her which caused her to land in a bathtub. Second, he used physical force against her which caused her to land on a futon that was covered with at least four semi-automatic rifles. Third, he used physical force against her by placing his hands around Ms. Holder’s neck and applying enough pressure to leave visible marks. And fourth, he used physical force to shove Ms. Holder against a wall in his apartment’s entry hallway.”
“The net effect of these acts was that Ms. Holder was severely traumatized and sustained a range of injuries, including bruises and scratches on her neck, shoulders, upper chest, back, arms and feet,” Commissioner Goodell wrote in the letter communicating Hardy’s suspensions. “The use of physical force under the circumstances present here, against a woman substantially smaller than you and in the presence of powerful, military-style assault weapons, constitutes a significant act of violence in violation of the Personal Conduct Policy.”
The NFL also found that Hardy failed to provide “complete and accurate information” to the league in conjunction with the investigation. The investigation included photographs of injuries to Nicole Holder.
“The NFL’s investigation concluded that Hardy violated the Personal Conduct Policy by using physical force against Nicole Holder in at least four instances,” the release explains. “First, he used physical force against her which caused her to land in a bathtub. Second, he used physical force against her which caused her to land on a futon that was covered with at least four semi-automatic rifles. Third, he used physical force against her by placing his hands around Ms. Holder’s neck and applying enough pressure to leave visible marks. And fourth, he used physical force to shove Ms. Holder against a wall in his apartment’s entry hallway.”
“The net effect of these acts was that Ms. Holder was severely traumatized and sustained a range of injuries, including bruises and scratches on her neck, shoulders, upper chest, back, arms and feet,” Commissioner Goodell wrote in the letter communicating Hardy’s suspensions. “The use of physical force under the circumstances present here, against a woman substantially smaller than you and in the presence of powerful, military-style assault weapons, constitutes a significant act of violence in violation of the Personal Conduct Policy.”
The NFL also found that Hardy failed to provide “complete and accurate information” to the league in conjunction with the investigation. The investigation included photographs of injuries to Nicole Holder.
Okay so the reported "four instances" were all that one altercation. Still, the description I posted in quotes was a rather violent situation.
He did more than break a collarbone?
I guess Malcolm Brown is the worstest since he caused Eric LeGrand's paralisys.
All charges against him were dismissed in February.
He has petitioned to have the charges expunged from his record. As long as he has no past felony convictions, the charges will be expunged.
Not dismissing what he did, just pointing out that he is legally in the clear.
He has petitioned to have the charges expunged from his record. As long as he has no past felony convictions, the charges will be expunged.
Not dismissing what he did, just pointing out that he is legally in the clear.
So was OJ.
The NFL is a private company that can discipline its employees how it seems fit within the collective bargaining agreement. And since a judge did find him guilty and those court records were provided to the NFL, they have enough information to make their own judgement.
I guess Malcolm Brown is the worstest since he caused Eric LeGrand's paralisys.
I just find it ridiculous to try and compare which player had a more serious domestic abuse situation. Anyone who hits a woman deserves whatever punishment gets doled out later. No sympathy for any of them. I hope DWash gets the book tossed at him as well. He should just man up, take what is dished out, and move forward.
An undisclosed amount.
Washington did not hit her and he did man up and accept all blame. Just not sure why you are trying to compare the two instances. They are not where near the same.
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If he ends up with more than the 6 games given to Big Ben for the "alleged" rapes, prepare to hear Al Sharpton over all this.
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That is like saying murder is murder when there is cold blooded murder and self protection murder. Not everything is that black and white. According to the police report the woman was throwing flower pots and etc and charged him/jumped on him and he pushed her off and she broke her collarbone.
If you equate that to what I quoted earlier about Hardy dragging her around by her hair, chucking her across the house and choking her while telling her he was going to kill her, than there really is no reason to discuss it further as I disagree wholeheartedly that they are one in the same.
PS: washington did man up about it.
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I wonder if he would have just beat her and if the gun's were not in the evidence photos would Goddell gave a lighter sentence?
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Cowboys owner Jerry Jones released a statement regarding the NFL’s decision to suspend DE Greg Hardy 10 games without pay.
“This suspension is something that we anticipated prior to Greg’s signing, and we respect the Commissioner’s ruling.
“Our organization understands the very serious nature of this matter. We will use our resources–work closely with Greg and with the league–to ensure a positive outcome.”
“This suspension is something that we anticipated prior to Greg’s signing, and we respect the Commissioner’s ruling.
“Our organization understands the very serious nature of this matter. We will use our resources–work closely with Greg and with the league–to ensure a positive outcome.”
That is what many are assuming.
I wonder if Hardy's agent will demanded a trade?
DWash pleaded guilty to the following two charges of aggravated assault:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...washington-arizona-probation-assualt/8057881/
A probable cause statement released by Phoenix police said Washington's ex-girlfriend claimed he grabbed her by the throat and shoved her to the ground following an argument at her apartment Wednesday. The woman told police that Washington also pushed her with two hands, causing her to fall and break her right collarbone, according to court documents.
Police later interviewed the woman, and their report noted her clavicle injury along with "road-rash type of scrapes, bruising and cuts to her right arm, right hip and right leg," according to The AP.
Prosecutor Adena Astrowsky and Washington's attorney Phillip Noland spent the roughly 20-minute hearing disagreeing about whether or not Washington's offense should be re-labeled as a misdemeanor. It is currently undesignated, meaning that the felony charge will be reclassified a misdemeanor if he meets the terms of his probation.
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You're right. He's practically a Boy Scout. My bad.
Where did I say he was a Boy Scout? And where did it say he hit her? Read the police report. She was attacking him and he shoved her to the group. Bad? Yes! In the same realm of Hardy? No!
Here is a little more about the case.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...washington-arizona-probation-assualt/8057881/
At this point, we will have to agree to disagree.
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First of all, he just wanted to see her daughter and take her to visit the grandmother but the ex said no, then he was so pissed off and took her phone and went toward his car, the woman yelled at him,throwing a plant pot, after he grabbed her neck and shoved her off....
But maybe u ignore she had other issues with law
But maybe u ignore she had other issues with law
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What other issues with the law?
And if you mean smoking out, then that is irrelevant in this case.
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The woman as i read last year was well known by police cause she was involved in a couple of assaults
I see, you meant her. That makes sense.
