Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

[D-Dogg]

Oh, well, it's all moot until I replace my mp3 player, anyway.


edit: I immediately went to woot to check the woot-off...the zune is up right now. I think God's telling me something, since I haven't checked it all day. Gotta figure out pretty quick if I can swing that this paycheck.

So the moral is, the point is moot unless there's a woot?

 

[Linderbee]

So the moral is, the point is moot unless there's a woot?

Very nice. Well, I bought it. (the zune). If you wouldn't mind burning those for me, that would be cool...but it can't be in whatever the frack it is that only ipod uses.

 

[Linderbee]

just checked the woot again...just missed the bag of crap, darn it!

 

[Kel Varnsen]

Who cares? The fact that this is getting so much pub on this site and around the world shows we have a long way to go as a society.

Because of the gay thing or because of the book that's being discussed?

 

[Mulli]

Who cares? The fact that this is getting so much pub on this site and around the world shows we have a long way to go as a society.

Albus was one of the main characters. It is somewhat relevant to the story. Perhaps not the movies (yet) but the books, for sure. Nothing wrong with being interested in it.

 

[Heucrazy]

Who cares? The fact that this is getting so much pub on this site and around the world shows we have a long way to go as a society.

The fact that people overreact to others saying they wished it had been in the books shows that we have a long way to go as a society.

 

[Chaplin]

Albus was one of the main characters. It is somewhat relevant to the story. Perhaps not the movies (yet) but the books, for sure. Nothing wrong with being interested in it.

The sexual preference of a fictional character has nothing relevant to do with the story. Whether it's admiration or "love", it doesn't change anything.

 

[Heucrazy]

The sexual preference of a fictional character has nothing relevant to do with the story. Whether it's admiration or "love", it doesn't change anything.

Actually the author came out and said that it directly related to the story.

And I don't know how it works in your world but in this one, love and admiration are not the same thing.

 

[Chaplin]

Actually the author came out and said that it directly related to the story.

And I don't know how it works in your world but in this one, love and admiration are not the same thing.

Please explain how it makes any relevance to the story. You say Rowling said it is directly related to the story. How, exactly? Dumbledore killed someone he cared about. Check. What else is there to know?

 

[SuperSpck]

If she wanted it to be that way, she should have included it somewhere. Bleh.

I guess it could have been done...

Harry's learning how it's him or Voldemort (sp?) to the death and Dumbledore just throws in that he prefers to have relationships with men. Easy AND comfortable. Aside from Ginny/Cho/Harry and Hermonie/Weasley she didn't play with much other romance did she? I guess Hagrid and the Giant Chick.

Also, this conversation seems even more surreal when half the thread's avatars are Voltron related.

 

[Heucrazy]

Please explain how it makes any relevance to the story. You say Rowling said it is directly related to the story. How, exactly? Dumbledore killed someone he cared about. Check. What else is there to know?

How about the reason he was so reluctant to kill him? Or to even fight him at all? Dumbledore let Grindwald rampage unchecked for awhile and that was directly linked to the story.

 

[Mulli]

So maybe people who think that it is related to the story are wrong. So what?

 

[Chaplin]

How about the reason he was so reluctant to kill him? Or to even fight him at all? Dumbledore let Grindwald rampage unchecked for awhile and that was directly linked to the story.

So because he was gay is the only reason he was reluctant to fight him? Come on, do you consider friendship so low that it wouldn't have mattered. It seemed fine before this "Dumbledore is gay" stuff came up. It's not like it didn't make any sense before this news broke.

 

[Pariah]

So because he was gay is the only reason he was reluctant to fight him? Come on, do you consider friendship so low that it wouldn't have mattered. It seemed fine before this "Dumbledore is gay" stuff came up. It's not like it didn't make any sense before this news broke.

Chap, you of all people should know that it makes for a "deeper," more involved character if there's a love-story angle/conflict in the story.

It DOES change the dynamic of fictional characters. It just does. That's why Hollywood adds (forces, in some cases) a love interest in every damn movie.

I think the vast majority of people are interested in it because it's Harry Potter. People are obsessed with everything HP. Nothing more, nothing less. It gives these people a reason to go re-read the books through a new lens, with a different understanding of a central character's motivations and subtext.

JMHO.

 

[Heucrazy]

So because he was gay is the only reason he was reluctant to fight him? Come on, do you consider friendship so low that it wouldn't have mattered. It seemed fine before this "Dumbledore is gay" stuff came up. It's not like it didn't make any sense before this news broke.

What is your serious problem with people wishing she had mentioned it in the books?

Seriously what exactly do you find so wrong with that?

 

[Chaplin]

What is your serious problem with people wishing she had mentioned it in the books?

Seriously what exactly do you find so wrong with that?

You are using this non-news item to completely change everything, when in reality, it doesn't matter HOW it is presented in the books.

You are a rational-thinking adult. Do you actually think that putting this in the books would help the story? Consider the audience! If Rowling really wanted that to be revealed, she would have revealed it. You don't even know if what she was saying was 100% serious.

 

[Pariah]

You are using this non-news item to completely change everything, when in reality, it doesn't matter HOW it is presented in the books.

I agree it doesn't matter how it's presented in the books, but it's not "non-news." There's a whole new way to look at a character.

It doesn't matter if the news is he's gay or a buddhist or an anarchist--the detail of the revelation isn't as important to the newsworthyness as the revelation itself.

As stated before, there's a whole new level of subtext to the character and his actions. That's why millions of people who live and breath HP are excited.

 

[Heucrazy]

You are using this non-news item to completely change everything, when in reality, it doesn't matter HOW it is presented in the books.

You are a rational-thinking adult. Do you actually think that putting this in the books would help the story? Consider the audience! If Rowling really wanted that to be revealed, she would have revealed it. You don't even know if what she was saying was 100% serious.

Do you read books at all? Because when I read a book how something is presented is the most important thing.

And yes I wish she had put this in the books. It adds another dimension to a character that is wildly popular and a huge part of the story.

 

[Mulli]

Do you read books at all? Because when I read a book how something is presented is the most important thing.

And yes I wish she had put this in the books. It adds another dimension to a character that is wildly popular and a huge part of the story.

Heu, are you the one who asked me once if I had ever read a book? I think that this sort of affects the story, but I am really glad it wasn't in the book. Not really a story line that would be necessary, in my opinion.

 

[Heucrazy]

Heu, are you the one who asked me once if I had ever read a book? I think that this sort of affects the story, but I am really glad it wasn't in the book. Not really a story line that would be necessary, in my opinion.

I don't think it was me? It could have been though, I am snarky.

It wasn't necessary for the books and it wasn't necessary for Rowling to come out with it after the fact either. But if she is going to do that then I would have prefered her putting it in the books.

 

[Cheesebeef]

You are using this non-news item to completely change everything, when in reality, it doesn't matter HOW it is presented in the books.

You are a rational-thinking adult. Do you actually think that putting this in the books would help the story? Consider the audience! If Rowling really wanted that to be revealed, she would have revealed it. You don't even know if what she was saying was 100% serious.

uh, wow.