Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

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Congratulations. :D

Seriously, though, everyone is going to have nitpicks about all the movies, especially movies that are as popular as Harry Potter. It hasn't stopped any of you guys from handing over 10 bucks to see the movies, so I guess it's the filmmakers that are laughing all the way to the bank. ;)
True. These books were seriously long. No way to cut them down into normal length movies without seriously cutting them.
 

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You were probably 12 at the time, though, right? I can see having issues trying to follow the story if you're that young. I hadn't read the book at all and saw a sneak of the movie and loved it.
I was 13. It's not hard to understand PG movies at that age, but they just left the stuff out. After that I was thinking about not going to the movies, but Harry Potter is too tough for me to pass up.
 

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My wife is going to take my daughter to this movie this weekend...we discussed it and there wasn't really anything scary/overtly violent to give it a PG-13.

The third movie was more scary (Lupin's morph). And PoA was rated just PG (we took a very young daughter to that and she screamed when Lupewolf was chasing down Hermoine..she said "run!" in a high pitched little voice...cute).

I honestly don't see where this one got the PG-13, and I have no problem sending my young girl to see it. She's been read the book...she knows who dies and how...:shrug:

And we are pretty restrictive in what we let our kids watch. We'll let them watch parts of movies and skip scenes, etc. (which we did with the Goblet of Fire movie) but I just don't see anything in this one very bothersome.
 

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Oh there's another thing...I hated the wereworld.

What did you skip in Goblet of Fire? There wasn't really anything bad about this one...OMG she's gonna see them kiss! I think it's just PG-13 because of the violence but it's not that bad. I'm not sure why they didn't have it as PG.
 

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Oh there's another thing...I hated the wereworld.

What did you skip in Goblet of Fire? There wasn't really anything bad about this one...OMG she's gonna see them kiss! I think it's just PG-13 because of the violence but it's not that bad. I'm not sure why they didn't have it as PG.


The revival of voldemort...though she has seen it now--it was kind of scary.
But in the end, no more scary than the Basilisk.

She's 6 and a half.
 

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Congratulations. :D

Seriously, though, everyone is going to have nitpicks about all the movies, especially movies that are as popular as Harry Potter. It hasn't stopped any of you guys from handing over 10 bucks to see the movies, so I guess it's the filmmakers that are laughing all the way to the bank. ;)

Nitpicks? Nitpicking is complaining that Tom Bombadil isn't in Fellowship. Nitpicks is complaining that Neville found the Room of Requirement instead of Dobby. Some movies have flat-out issues caused by the director, the writer, or both. When you send Elves to Helm's Deep when the entire point of the sequence was supposed to be that men have to stand alone, or when you put in a stupid Mexican shrunken head that talks and build a scene around it just because you can, well, then I have an issue.
 

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Nitpicks? Nitpicking is complaining that Tom Bombadil isn't in Fellowship. Nitpicks is complaining that Neville found the Room of Requirement instead of Dobby. Some movies have flat-out issues caused by the director, the writer, or both. When you send Elves to Helm's Deep when the entire point of the sequence was supposed to be that men have to stand alone, or when you put in a stupid Mexican shrunken head that talks and build a scene around it just because you can, well, then I have an issue.

Settle down! You guys seem genuinely upset here. Sorry about that.
 

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holy cow! Potter made 44 million on it's opening day, including midnight screenings. That the biggest Wednesday EVER. Pretty damn impressive and without another monster blockbuster in sight for the next couple weeks, Chap just may be right about Potter owning the summer... although Spidey is still gonna be tough to beat.

Has there ever been 5 300 million dollar grossers in one summer? That has to be a record and it looks like it could happen with Spidey, Pirates, Shrek 3s, Transformers and Potter 5.
 

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holy cow! Potter made 44 million on it's opening day, including midnight screenings. That the biggest Wednesday EVER. Pretty damn impressive and without another monster blockbuster in sight for the next couple weeks, Chap just may be right about Potter owning the summer... although Spidey is still gonna be tough to beat.

Has there ever been 5 300 million dollar grossers in one summer? That has to be a record and it looks like it could happen with Spidey, Pirates, Shrek 3s, Transformers and Potter 5.

I still wish they'd rank these openings with inflation taken into account so we'd get a better idea how popular they really are.
 

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holy cow! Potter made 44 million on it's opening day, including midnight screenings. That the biggest Wednesday EVER. Pretty damn impressive and without another monster blockbuster in sight for the next couple weeks, Chap just may be right about Potter owning the summer... although Spidey is still gonna be tough to beat.

Has there ever been 5 300 million dollar grossers in one summer? That has to be a record and it looks like it could happen with Spidey, Pirates, Shrek 3s, Transformers and Potter 5.

I'm not terribly surprised...it was so packed at the midnight shows...I've been to midnight shows before, but never were there that many people. They kept adding screens as each one sold out. The streets were packed as we all walked out at 2:30.

12 million plus on 2100 theaters for the midnight showing, and everyone seemed to like it, so I figured it would get a great wednesday opening at 4300 theaters and having good word of mouth. Has an 89 or so from users on RT. I didn't think it would beat SP2, but I thought it would be close.

Jeez, book 6 is going to murder the box office, methinks...
 

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Have you seen the 5th movie yet, Stout?

Actually, yeah, I have, and I was pretty happy with it. Really captured the book, and used a lot of dialogue from the book. I had a few problems, like not including Aunt Petunia in the beginning (thought that was a slipup), and not having the big blowup between Harry and Dumbledore at the end. Sure, it was rather hectic in pacing too, and you really didn't get the protracted arguments between Harry and Ron and Hermione, but there wasn't time for that, and they covered the sulkiness very well. Lots of things were changed and switched around, but I was pretty good with most of it. Overall, a hugely entertaining movie, and pretty true to the book.
 

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like not including Aunt Petunia in the beginning (thought that was a slipup),

Yeah, I forgot to mention that.

I don't remember the other movies lifting as much dialogue straight from the book; I really, really liked that. I kind of hope they keep this writer on board.
 

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Another reason I hated the 3rd movie so much. The new Dumbledore...who else agrees with me that this guy just isn't that good? I would like to hear your thoughts on him. He just doesn't seem to be the wise, calm wizard that he should be and Richard Harris was. He's too agressive at times when he shouldn't be, and he also doesn't have white hair. He just doesn't seem Dumbledore-ish to me at all and in the movies doesn't seem any more powerful or smart than a Sirius, Lupin, Moody or either of the adult Weasley's. Besides him, I'm actually pretty happy with how they did most of the characters. They got McGonagall and Hagrid perfectly imo, the kids are very good, Lupin, Sirius, Mrs. Weasley and Umbridge were close...Moody looks pretty goofy but isn't bad. It's just that Dumbledore is my favorite character and I would've liked them to get him right before

he dies

I'm done wish the bad reviews on their movies. I expect good things from the next one if they make it a bit longer. :) Now that the movie Dumbledore sucks, I won't be as upset when
when he dies a horrible death...I really don't like the actor in this
 

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yea

I havent seen this movie yet, but in the 4th one, he just went crazy when harry's name came out of the goblet (in the side room afterwards)
 

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My wife and I mentioned that tonight...Richard Harris was PERFECT as Dumbledore. Gambon just can't match up.

And with the immense amount of screen time Dumbledore gets in movie 6, Gambon better step it up and channel some of Richard Harris' Dumbledore, and fast.
 

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yea

I havent seen this movie yet, but in the 4th one, he just went crazy when harry's name came out of the goblet (in the side room afterwards)
I laughed...I wasn't expecting that.

I'm adding Richard Harris as one of my favorite actors of Flixter...he was also pretty good in The Count of Monte Cristo. I would've loved to see him in these fight scenes.

I don't think Gambon is going to do any better. He hasn't shown any signs of changing. His performance is surprising because he's had a pretty successful acting career hasn't he? Is there a chance he'll be replaced? I'm sure there are many people who would agree that he hasn't done a good job...but I guess they wouldn't want a 3rd Dumbledore in 6 movies.
 

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Michael Gambon is actually a great, great actor. He was an odd choice to be Dumbledore because he is actually much larger than Richard Harris, I figured they'd replace him with someone who was thin in the face like Harris was (Peter O'Toole, perhaps).

But I don't think Gambon is horrible in the role, he just had to step in to a role that had already been defined by Richard Harris, and that made it difficult.
 

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Michael Gambon is actually a great, great actor. He was an odd choice to be Dumbledore because he is actually much larger than Richard Harris, I figured they'd replace him with someone who was thin in the face like Harris was (Peter O'Toole, perhaps).

But I don't think Gambon is horrible in the role, he just had to step in to a role that had already been defined by Richard Harris, and that made it difficult.

Gambon is a great actor--no question about that. The mistake he has made, however, is to take the character from the book and change him, losing Dumbledore's serene calm and poise, his nonchalance in the face of chaos. Couple that with the fact that he had to re-define the role after Harris died, and he just isn't doing that well.
 

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Gambon is a great actor--no question about that. The mistake he has made, however, is to take the character from the book and change him, losing Dumbledore's serene calm and poise, his nonchalance in the face of chaos. Couple that with the fact that he had to re-define the role after Harris died, and he just isn't doing that well.
But how much of that falls in the director's hands, instead of the actor's? I've always been curious about that sort of thing.
 

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Gambon is a great actor--no question about that. The mistake he has made, however, is to take the character from the book and change him, losing Dumbledore's serene calm and poise, his nonchalance in the face of chaos. Couple that with the fact that he had to re-define the role after Harris died, and he just isn't doing that well.

Capturing Dumbledore's gentle sarcasm and silly attitude, combined with his intelligence and poise is crucial in the 6th book. I think Gambon can do it but it's really important in this next book for the viewer to adore Dumbledore, not just merely like him. In the books, he is a character that is revered, and adored by readers..

As an aside, we read the books and then listen to all of them on audiobooks read by Jim Dale...he is incredible and he gives such personality to Dumbledore. When I read the books, the characters have Jim Dale's voices for them in my head..he's just a fantastic reader. I'd listen to anything he read...he's that good.
 
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