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As citizens of the NBA, it falls on the rest of us to help Save the Sonics! I beg you to please post your team/owner's information with the following. Thanks!
We Miami Heat fans have put together a proposed plan of action here: http://thesouthfloridafan.blogspot.com/2008/04/how-to-help-seattle-keep-their-sonics.html
It involves this:
IMPLORE EVERY NBA TEAM BLOG TO POST THE ADDRESS OF THEIR OWNERS. IN ADDITION, LETTERS SHOULD INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE THIS:
"As a form of protest, we vow to boycott any game next season in which the Oklahoma City Sonics play, whether it be in our arena or watching it on television."
Spread this around as much as you can. It's going to take the other teams to prevent this from happening. Let's save the Sonics!
 

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What is the issue here? Sorry, I haven't followed what's going on with Sonics. But if it is any petition against Stern and the league, I will sign blindly.
 

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"As a form of protest, we vow to boycott any game next season in which the Oklahoma City Sonics play, whether it be in our arena or watching it on television."

Consider me NOT SIGNED.
Oklahoma deserves a team, maybe not at the expense of Seattle...but still.

Besides, they will bring an expansion team back within 5 years if they leave anyway, a la Charlotte.
 

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Besides, they will bring an expansion team back within 5 years if they leave anyway, a la Charlotte.

Damn, the bets keep on coming.

No way in hell another team plays in Seattle in 5 years.
 

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As citizens of the NBA, it falls on the rest of us to help Save the Sonics! I beg you to please post your team/owner's information with the following. Thanks!
We Miami Heat fans have put together a proposed plan of action here: http://thesouthfloridafan.blogspot.com/2008/04/how-to-help-seattle-keep-their-sonics.html
It involves this:
IMPLORE EVERY NBA TEAM BLOG TO POST THE ADDRESS OF THEIR OWNERS. IN ADDITION, LETTERS SHOULD INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE THIS:
"As a form of protest, we vow to boycott any game next season in which the Oklahoma City Sonics play, whether it be in our arena or watching it on television."
Spread this around as much as you can. It's going to take the other teams to prevent this from happening. Let's save the Sonics!

As an Oklahoma who just gladly had my taxes raised to get this team, I can say "get lost". :D

We have and will step up to provide the funding for the arena. Seattle is not interested enough in supporting their team. Period.

:|
 

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I don't want to save the Sonics. I hate Shawn Kemp and Gary Payton.
 

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Damn, the bets keep on coming.

No way in hell another team plays in Seattle in 5 years.

If Seattle decides that they are going to build a new arena, instead of rennovating the one that they have. They'll do it.

I need good odds on this one though. He has already said that he doesn't want to expand.

Official announcement of bringing a team back to Seattle within 5 years.

I get 4.5:1 odds.
 

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You mean like they did in L.A. after the Rams left?
Don't count on it.

Football is different than basketball. The NFL has been trying to bring a team back to LA for years now....
 

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The League already said if the Sonics leave they will not put a team back in Seattle. This whole situation sucks for Seattle.Imagine if Sarver said after he purchased the team he wanted to move to OK. That is pretty much what happened here. I am not a fan of the Sonics but I do feel bad for all the Sonic Fans up here.
 

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Why is the NFL different than the NBA?

For starters one is played with a football, and another with a basketball? Is this what you are asking?

Seriously though. Relocation/expansion for the different leagues are decided by two different sets of people.
 

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The group that owns the Sonics had no other intentions than moving the team to OK as soon as it could. They demanded a new arena be built or they were leaving. Seattle had renovated Key arena a few years back and the new owners knew that Seattle would not want to build a new arena.
 

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The group that owns the Sonics had no other intentions than moving the team to OK as soon as it could. They demanded a new arena be built or they were leaving. Seattle had renovated Key arena a few years back and the new owners knew that Seattle would not want to build a new arena.

that I don't doubt. The owners could have sold it to someone else.

This reminds me of someone trying to sell a painting at a yard sale for a dollar. The person who bought the painting, only wanted it for the frame. They take off the painting, to find another painting hidden underneath worth millions of dollars. "If they had only known it was there... they wouldn't have sold the painting in the first place."

Time to move on.
 

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What I stated is exactly what happened. I have been following this from the start. The owners are from OK. I doubt that the new owners would let anyone know they had plans to move the team before they made the deal. Like I said I really don't care for the Sonics but it sucks for the fans up here and there are a lot of them.
 

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What I stated is exactly what happened. I have been following this from the start. The owners are from OK. I doubt that the new owners would let anyone know they had plans to move the team before they made the deal. Like I said I really don't care for the Sonics but it sucks for the fans up here and there are a lot of them.

The potential owner is from the same city (I think) and state that had just hosted an NBA team quite successfully. I don't understand how they couldn't have at least thought it might have been possible. I did.

A brand new stadium in Oklahoma is going to raise the price of the franchise drastically. I could see why they would want to do it for monetary reasons as well.
 

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The potential owner is from the same city (I think) and state that had just hosted an NBA team quite successfully. I don't understand how they couldn't have at least thought it might have been possible. I did.

The previous owner was aware of the possibility, and that's why there was a condition on the sale. He plans to sue the current ownership group over it.

The former owner of the team revealed that he plans to sue the current owners to get the team back, arguing they breached a condition of the sale to make a "good-faith effort" to keep Seattle's oldest pro sports franchise from leaving town.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3347564
 

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Oklahoma deserves a team

Why?

Oklahoma City is a woefully small market compared to Seattle. I give them 3 years before their attendance is as pitiful as the Grizzlies were in Vancouver BC before they moved.


Unfortunately there's nothing that can be done to stop the move. Bennett is obviously setting the team up to be competitive in Oklahoma City by 2010-2011 at the expense of their remaining time in Seattle.

I grew up with the Sonics back when they were the only game in town. I still have my first program from 1974 (against the Buffalo Braves btw).
 

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The only thing that's going to save the Sonics is a new arena, not a petition.
 

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I thought I read in another thread around here that Stern has no plans to expand the league 'within' the U.S.

So yeah, hornets, grizzlies, charlotte would probably be the three teams most likely to move. But all three have moved recently, or in the case of charlotte...was created because a team moved.

So most of the likely candidates, are probably locked into their cities for a while. I doubt Seattle would get one until 2020...maybe Atlanta's team, but then again, Atlanta deserves a team too, their team's, gm's, and ownership's have just sucked for a long, long time.

Don't forget Las Vegas wants a team as well, so there is even competition if Seattle loses the Sonics. With Las Vegas, every year it looks like a better place to have a pro sports team. At this point the only thing holding it back is the gambling, and societal viewpoints might change enough in a decade or two, the NBA commish might not mind, or if they do, it might be such a good spot for a place that bright minds might just come up with a solution...like the no betting on the LV team for nba things or something.

I agree with the assessment that OKC is a very small market, one that would be hard pressed to sell 15-18k season tickets year in and year out, or thereabouts. Maybe they can get some revenue streams from the new stadium to help, but I think they'd be a perennial feeder team that can't re-sign it's good players..like maybe Kevin Durant?

That said, as the only pro game in town (besides maybe an AFL team) maybe they'll have great attendance. But when I see hornets games not selling out, and they're good, that's a bad sign. Granted it's NO, but size wise, they are more similar in size, then not.

One thing OKC has going for it is that it isn't a 40-50k baseball stadium or a 60-70k football stadium...it's most likely a 16-23k stadium. So smaller market teams are more easily able to fill up a stadium for basketball as opposed to football. Not accounting for how many people follow each sport...i.e. like 60 percent watch basketball, 80 percent baseball, 90 percent football (not actual figures just throwing the variable out there)....then if it takes 2-3 million to find enough fans to fill up a football stadium, it might only be 500k-1million to find enough fans to fill up a basketball stadium.

That said I still think the odds are OKC will be a tough draw for nba fans.

I think they should stay in Seattle. But I also think the state head politicos need to get their head out of the sand. It's probably already too late. But those released emails could be huge trouble. It should be, but I hardly have faith that people's interpretations of the law will be correct. It never seems to be these days. So I would feel it's an uphill battle on that one. (It's clearly shows a breach of contract...but somehow I feel it'll be swept under the rug which is B.S.)

Sad too, cause the region used to have two teams...Sonics, and grizzlies. (like if tucson had a team..actually closer than tucson)

Seattle's been their home since around '67 I think? ~40-41 years. They'll fund a new baseball stadium, and football stadium, but not a basketball one? Guess they don't remember losing the Seattle Pilots (Milwaukee Brewers).

I hope Seattle does save them, because I would suspect it would be like the NFL and no LA team. Decade+ to replace the sonics if ever. (and their region had two as well..that's kind of weird.)

But then again I just thought today that in the NFL teams that like half of the teams that have moved their franchises since 1988, have already won a Superbowl in their new city. (Ravens, Rams) have won it....(Raiders, Cardinals) haven't.

Good luck to you all up there
 

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the issue is far from black & white and OK is a crap market - it is bad for the league as a whole to go from seattle to OK

the fact that the okies didn't operate in good faith is very evident and that was a stipulation - of course stern being an ass states that he didn't read the e-mails, but is convinced that bennett did all he could do

for guys like dreamcastrocks he has no idea all the viable offers that were put up to renovate key arena and a couple of the more creative proposals - however anything that wasn't raping the state was considered unreasonable and dismissed - the ownership group wants to use what they did in NO as a baseline and only increase the package from there

you have to act in reason, especially after all the money that was dumped into the stadium a decade ago - remember the big renovation they did downtown - now advance 8 years and be told if you don't build a brand new stadium in the next 2 years the team will be sold and moved to vegas - basically what happened in seattle

i appreciate the outpouring of support from other fans and if you aren't hip to the e-mail situation check out my post in the other sonics thread here - amazing stuff, especially for the stern lovers - such a reach around fest between him and bennett - it's sick
 

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