Here We Go Again

[Cardiac]

I'm not just referring to the loss, which was horrible. It also has to do with the let's fire Mac and the entire coaching staff rants after every loss.

First of all I think most of us agree to fire Mac etc. at this point in the season would really serve no purpose.

Name another team whose starting CB's consist of a 4th, 5th and 7th rd draft picks.

The D-line at this point had one player picked before the 3rd rd playing against the Rams. I don't count R. Davis as he was cut because of performance by the Bears?.

Once again the O-line is a patchwork unit with position changes for some and key injuries.

Blake is starting to make some plays that Jake apologists can relate to. That fumble was very Jake like and explains just how desperate a QB on the Cards can become because they realize they just have to make a play.

2 Rookie starting WR's is not an ideal situation. As good as Q as been you can see the rookie mistakes he makes. BJ is in the same boat. Both will be great in a year or two but this team needed Gilmore and McAddely to step up more this year. Oh yeah, and a better Vet WR then Foster would have helped as well.

A couple of other notes:

Freeney for the Colts didn't really start getting playing time until midway through last season. Too much too soon for Pace at this point. I wonder how many plays Suggs is getting a game? I doubt anywhere near what Pace is.

Are the Saints going to fire Hasslett?

The 49ers going to fire Erickson?

The Falcons ... Reeves?

The Bears ..... Jauron?

The Packers .... Sherman?

The Pats .... Billichek?

The Browns .... Davis?

The Chargers .... Schottenheimer ?

The Jags .... Del Rio?

The Raiders ...

The ....

Every week teams get blown out by other teams. Yes the Cards are ahead of the curve but any objective fan could have seen this, especailly this early in the year and with the injuries this team had in preseason. Losing Starks was the dagger to the heart. He was the only one who could contain either Holt or Bruce. Not having more depth at this position was a critical mistake but not the coaching staff's fault.

The Chiefs Defense was horrible last year and many called for Robinson's head. It's amazing what a couple of quality FA's will do for a team. RG went after Holliday and Colvin ( similar to Barber) and was jilted. This has more to do with the Bidwill's reputation than either RG or Mac.

Of course the Tuna would have had a huge impact but once again the Bidwill's stood no chance of attracting that kind of coaching talent.

Most teams that pick up several FA's and add a new OC and WR, DE, DB and O-line coaches will struggle early. Especially with the lack of talent on this team. 4 games into the season is far too early to deem this team a complete failure at this point.

A 3-5 or 2-6 start is looking us square in the face. The true test is the 2nd half of the season as all of the schemes and new players start to mesh.

I still think my 7-9 prediction for the season is possible. What Coach Mac has to do now is keep the team morale up until this team starts to click.

Every year we see teams start the season off horribly and then rally to finish well. Every year we see teams get off to a great start to fall apart and finish poorly.

That's one reason why the playoffs don't start after 4 games into the season.

 

[Stout]

Originally posted by Cardiac
A 3-5 or 2-6 start is looking us square in the face. The true test is the 2nd half of the season as all of the schemes and new players start to mesh.

I still think my 7-9 prediction for the season is possible. What Coach Mac has to do now is keep the team morale up until this team starts to click.

Every year we see teams start the season off horribly and then rally to finish well. Every year we see teams get off to a great start to fall apart and finish poorly.

That's one reason why the playoffs don't start after 4 games into the season.

At this point, I would be elated to reach 3-5. 7-9? Personally, watching this team play, watching the complete and utter lack of a pass rush, I think you'd have to be on crack to think 7-9 is possible. You must realize that it's not that we 'might' fall apart. We have fallen apart. The wheels have come off this wagon and who's going to repair them?

As for the schemes meshing? We might be better once the players mesh within the schemes? It's not like our offense isn't crisp when we're playing well. Last week showed us that. We've already 'meshed'. We just can't stop making mistakes, and we can't beat anyone with our defense. It's a simple fact of life. Even if we keep our offense from making mistakes, we'll still lose more than we win because of our defense.

Let's face it. We stink.

 

[Pariah]

I'm not saying the Cards should fire mac (now or at the end of the season)...yet, but one interesting name that's out there right now for a coaching possibility is Dennis Green.

 

[arthurracoon]

Re: Re: Here We Go Again

Originally posted by Stout
At this point, I would be elated to reach 3-5. 7-9? Personally, watching this team play, watching the complete and utter lack of a pass rush, I think you'd have to be on crack to think 7-9 is possible.

Let's face it. We stink.

Yeah...

I think 5 wins would be great

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I understand the need to vent.

But who the heck thought we were going to beat the Rams.

This team is better than a couple other teams in the league right now. We all knew the Cards had to play perfect to beat the Rams.

They had 2 big turnovers. That was the game right there and everyone should have known it.

I wasn't disgusted with our play. We got out of our game plan and lost. At least it was a game. At least had a small bit of hope in the 4th.

We looked much better than our loss at Seattle. This loss was not a surprise, and it didn't make me sick to watch.

This team should shrug it off, learn, and prepare for Dallas.

Let us message board guys do all the questioning and complaining.

Peace

 

[schutd]

It made me sick to watch Plummer go for 16 stright in his game, and play with the confidence that Ive never seen in the guy before. Its starting to become apparent, through the uncharacteristic boneheaded plays of Jeff Blake and the improved performance of Jake Plummer that the QB position in AZ is tasked so heavily to make plays, because no one seems to, and because our defense is a friggin sieve, that they turn from cerebral player to bumbling fool, and eventually play us out of the game. ANd then the defense is incapable of absorbing the blow and earning a stop. Its painful to watch.

Sorry, we stink.

 

[Mel Gray TD]

Its all about the ability to coach and teach. I do not feel we have any quality coaches with the exception of Sullivan. The rest of these guys do not belong in the NFL. I feel what the University of Arizona did was correct and I think the Cardinals need to make changes now. Don't give me this crap about time to mesh. This is the NFL and you are supposed to be professionals. If Dennis Green can take over Tuesday, get it done. If Jimmy Johnson can be here by Tuesday, get it done. If Tom Coughlin can be here by Tuesday get it done. Are guys looked pathetic yesterday and it all comes down to coaching. I get tired of the guys doing the broadcast saying what a great guy Mac is. I like Mac to. What is his won/loss record? How many young players are they developing? I blame alot of this on the owners but you still have to have a coach who can prepare his team to win.

What a tough weekend for me. Local university, Southeast Missouri State Universtiy, was picked to win the Ohio Valley Conference and were ranked in the preaseason. They are now 0-5. My beloved University of Missouri was ranked 23rd in the country. They get blown out by Kansas 35-14. My baseball Cardinals are out of the playoffs. What an up and down season.
I live 100 miles away from St. Louis but decided to stay home with my family. Best decision I made all weekend. My football Cardinals stunk it up. Hey, someone talk me off the ledge!

 

[vporter]

The game starts at the ol - if you dont have the horse's you cant pull the waggon- Mac needs to jump on the Ofensive line and get some pass blocking - he had the ol two timing Kennedy and that left Little unchecked - and At 4.4 he is the fastest man on the field- QB isnt that much a factor - give time to throw and the gamd changes- and Rams had a very good incentive to win- Namelly Bidwill- he is hated in St Lou- It isnt the Cards. I was a season ticket holder and went to all thier games -thought Hart was the best- all the time Billy boy kept threatening to leave if we didnt build him a home-

 

[Mel Gray TD]

I to was a Cardinal supporter when they were in St. Louis. Jim Hart was a great quarterback with a great offensive line and great coaches. I really miss those teams and I miss the Cardinals being in St. Louis. But, those days are gone and even though I stayed in Missouri, my heart went with to Arizona.

Where in the heck did Freddy Jones go today?

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by Mel Gray TD
I to was a Cardinal supporter when they were in St. Louis. Jim Hart was a great quarterback with a great offensive line and great coaches. I really miss those teams and I miss the Cardinals being in St. Louis. But, those days are gone and even though I stayed in Missouri, my heart went with to Arizona.

Where in the heck did Freddy Jones go today?

Jones was blocking. Everytime I looked it seemed he was being held in a bit longer to block, he was in a few patterns but the Rams were so effective blitzing we used Jones as an extra OL.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I don't buy the argument that hiring a new coach in mid-season is useless.If the guy we want is available and a change is going to be made then why not bring the guy in and let him see what he has to work with and evaluate his players in game situations?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Originally posted by Cardiac
I'm not just referring to the loss, which was horrible. It also has to do with the let's fire Mac and the entire coaching staff rants after every loss.

First of all I think most of us agree to fire Mac etc. at this point in the season would really serve no purpose.

Name another team whose starting CB's consist of a 4th, 5th and 7th rd draft picks.

The D-line at this point had one player picked before the 3rd rd playing against the Rams. I don't count R. Davis as he was cut because of performance by the Bears?.

Once again the O-line is a patchwork unit with position changes for some and key injuries.

Blake is starting to make some plays that Jake apologists can relate to. That fumble was very Jake like and explains just how desperate a QB on the Cards can become because they realize they just have to make a play.

2 Rookie starting WR's is not an ideal situation. As good as Q as been you can see the rookie mistakes he makes. BJ is in the same boat. Both will be great in a year or two but this team needed Gilmore and McAddely to step up more this year. Oh yeah, and a better Vet WR then Foster would have helped as well.

A couple of other notes:

Freeney for the Colts didn't really start getting playing time until midway through last season. Too much too soon for Pace at this point. I wonder how many plays Suggs is getting a game? I doubt anywhere near what Pace is.

Are the Saints going to fire Hasslett?

The 49ers going to fire Erickson?

The Falcons ... Reeves?

The Bears ..... Jauron?

The Packers .... Sherman?

The Pats .... Billichek?

The Browns .... Davis?

The Chargers .... Schottenheimer ?

The Jags .... Del Rio?

The Raiders ...

The ....

Every week teams get blown out by other teams. Yes the Cards are ahead of the curve but any objective fan could have seen this, especailly this early in the year and with the injuries this team had in preseason. Losing Starks was the dagger to the heart. He was the only one who could contain either Holt or Bruce. Not having more depth at this position was a critical mistake but not the coaching staff's fault.

The Chiefs Defense was horrible last year and many called for Robinson's head. It's amazing what a couple of quality FA's will do for a team. RG went after Holliday and Colvin ( similar to Barber) and was jilted. This has more to do with the Bidwill's reputation than either RG or Mac.

Of course the Tuna would have had a huge impact but once again the Bidwill's stood no chance of attracting that kind of coaching talent.

Most teams that pick up several FA's and add a new OC and WR, DE, DB and O-line coaches will struggle early. Especially with the lack of talent on this team. 4 games into the season is far too early to deem this team a complete failure at this point.

A 3-5 or 2-6 start is looking us square in the face. The true test is the 2nd half of the season as all of the schemes and new players start to mesh.

I still think my 7-9 prediction for the season is possible. What Coach Mac has to do now is keep the team morale up until this team starts to click.

Every year we see teams start the season off horribly and then rally to finish well. Every year we see teams get off to a great start to fall apart and finish poorly.

That's one reason why the playoffs don't start after 4 games into the season.

Haslet,Reeves,Davis,Schottenheimer,and Jauron will all probably be gone if they don't turn it around.

 

[Cardiac]

I couple of points I should have made clearer.

Every week a couple of teams are getting blown out and look horrible. Then the next week these teams are playing well and even beating other teams.

One example is our Cards. Going into the Packers game many were calling for Mac's head. Then the Cards beat the Packers and many feel the Cards have turned the corner. They did turn a corner but our road to success has many twists and turns in it so we have several more corners to turn.

Packers lost to us and then spank the Bears.

The Eagles looked dreadful and then beat the Bills who started out like SB contenders and then looked horrible the next two games.

There are many more examples of this.

If you discount the facts that this team has just started to do things correctly in the front office and expect an instant turn around then my alleged crack smoking (thanks Stout) pales in comparison to the koolaide abuse by many on this board.

Once again this team is starting 2 rookie WR's.

The O-line is not at full strength and the starters have played 5 minutes of football together as a unit.

New offensive scheme this year.

6 new starters on the Offense, Kendall at a new position and Clement was out all of last year. Hell it's easier to list who is starting at their same position from last year, F. Jones at TE and Shelton at LT. Now throw in a new OC, WR coach, O-line coach, TE's coach and of course this team will not start off playing flawless ball. I'm actually thrilled with the success we have had on this side of the ball.

So you can discount all of this and the fact it takes time for units with this much change to mesh but that is just short sighted. How many categories was this team in the top 5 in offensively, well it was a lot. Turnovers would be the glaring weakness, again this has to be understood given all of the changes from last year.

A under talented defensive unit with 2 key injuries in the preseason and of course this unit is going to struggle.

I thought Wilson played a great game against the Rams. He hammered a couple of WR's coming across the middle. Jackson played well but had a bone head play. That play was not the difference in this game but didn't help.

The LB's were just okay in this game. Several times Mac got caught up in traffic and was just short of making a play, especially on the sweeps. Mac did blitz well this game has he got a great hit on Bulger and a sack.

The DE's not only didn't get much pressure on the QB but didn't get up field enough to blow up those sweeps.

The DT's were okay against the run up the middle but not a factor otherwise.

The CB's are best suited for a cover 2 defense but that means we need a pash rush with 4 to 5 players not the 6 or 7 we had to send and still got little pressure on the QB.

We just match up so poorly with teams that have a potent passing game that we will suffer through games like this at times.

The worst stat of the game was TOP and especially in the 3rd qtr but I think the Rams only scored 3 pts in that quarter.

It was an ugly dissapointing loss. Again this is only game 4 in a very long season.

As the offense meshes (for those of you who hate that expression ) the team will be able to handle these games better.

Obviously the rookie WR's need to learn how to make run the correct routes when the other team blitzes like crazy. Jeff Golin wrote that Sully was schooled by Lovie Smith and I agree completely. As a rookie OC he will be out coached at times and this was one of those times. Sully will learn from this and so will the entire team.

 

[Stout]

As I said, Cardiac, the offense is already where it's supposed to be. IF, and that is one big IF, it can stop turning the ball over, then we can actually get the time to run the ball, and maybe, just maybe, we can be successful doing it. So, if we buckle down, the offense can be decent. I've already conceded that.

What I haven't and will not concede is any kind of hope on defense. Our defense flat-out sucks. I notice you really didn't give us anything strong to counter that. You gave us a few reasons why they stink, but not a reason for hope. Without at least an average defense, our team will get rocked this season. I don't care if our offense does correct their mistakes and get better. Without a good defense behind them, we're ground meat.

 

[Snakester]

Originally posted by Mel Gray TD
Its all about the ability to coach and teach. I do not feel we have any quality coaches with the exception of Sullivan. The rest of these guys do not belong in the NFL. I feel what the University of Arizona did was correct and I think the Cardinals need to make changes now. Don't give me this crap about time to mesh. This is the NFL and you are supposed to be professionals. If Dennis Green can take over Tuesday, get it done. If Jimmy Johnson can be here by Tuesday, get it done. If Tom Coughlin can be here by Tuesday get it done. Are guys looked pathetic yesterday and it all comes down to coaching. I get tired of the guys doing the broadcast saying what a great guy Mac is. I like Mac to. What is his won/loss record? How many young players are they developing? I blame alot of this on the owners but you still have to have a coach who can prepare his team to win.

What a tough weekend for me. Local university, Southeast Missouri State Universtiy, was picked to win the Ohio Valley Conference and were ranked in the preaseason. They are now 0-5. My beloved University of Missouri was ranked 23rd in the country. They get blown out by Kansas 35-14. My baseball Cardinals are out of the playoffs. What an up and down season.
I live 100 miles away from St. Louis but decided to stay home with my family. Best decision I made all weekend. My football Cardinals stunk it up. Hey, someone talk me off the ledge!

Take 70 to 19 go south till you reach Hermann, go into the winery and get one of everything. Drink till you forget this week's losses and start again Sunday.

 

[Cardiac]

Originally posted by Stout
As I said, Cardiac, the offense is already where it's supposed to be. IF, and that is one big IF, it can stop turning the ball over, then we can actually get the time to run the ball, and maybe, just maybe, we can be successful doing it. So, if we buckle down, the offense can be decent. I've already conceded that.

What I haven't and will not concede is any kind of hope on defense. Our defense flat-out sucks. I notice you really didn't give us anything strong to counter that. You gave us a few reasons why they stink, but not a reason for hope. Without at least an average defense, our team will get rocked this season. I don't care if our offense does correct their mistakes and get better. Without a good defense behind them, we're ground meat.

Not much to say in defense of the defense. No pass rush and poor cover corners.

When this offense stops shooting itself in the foot and can get sustained drives and put points on the board then the defense will be good enough to help us win some games.

Football is so much about momentum and emotion that if the offense scores and the defense gets a stop or turnover and the offense doesn't screw it up then the defense can build on that.

My wife loves football and dreads it at the same time. The love part is obvious, the dread part is because I'm a Cards fan and she has to listen to me rant during the game. During our 15 years of Marriage she has learned pretty well where the conversational land minds are and has become very adept at not stepping on them. Even then she is in a no win situation because the Cards are .... well the Cards and they lose far many more games then they win.

I share all of this because she made the unfortunate comment after Blake's fumble that the defense has to be deflated after that. I strongly stated that I don't care what the Offense does or doesn't do the Defense has a job and there should be no whining in football. They play the game for love and money and so if they have to trot their buts back out onto the field then do it. Knock the snot outa someone and play football damnit.

I guess what this all means is that even though I disagree with the defense feeling sorry for themselves that emotion does have an impact and a productive mistake free offense will also help the defense.

 

[Stout]

Originally posted by Cardiac
When this offense stops shooting itself in the foot and can get sustained drives and put points on the board then the defense will be good enough to help us win some games.

Hmm, can't say I agree fully. I think the defense is good enough that we won't LOSE, but only IF the offense plays a dominant, perfect, ball-control game. Otherwise...our defense is BAD enough to LOSE us games that the offense doesn't dominate but does play well in.

 

[WizardOfAz]

Originally posted by Cardiac

The Bears ..... Jauron?

They might.

Edwards too.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Originally posted by Cardiac
First of all I think most of us agree to fire Mac etc. at this point in the season would really serve no purpose.

Name another team whose starting CB's consist of a 4th, 5th and 7th rd draft picks.

I don't count R. Davis as he was cut because of performance by the Bears?.

Are the Saints going to fire Hasslett?

The 49ers going to fire Erickson?

The Falcons ... Reeves?

The Bears ..... Jauron?

The Packers .... Sherman?

The Pats .... Billichek?

The Browns .... Davis?

The Chargers .... Schottenheimer ?

The Jags .... Del Rio?

The Raiders ...

The ....

A 3-5 or 2-6 start is looking us square in the face. The true test is the 2nd half of the season as all of the schemes and new players start to mesh.

I still think my 7-9 prediction for the season is possible. What Coach Mac has to do now is keep the team morale up until this team starts to click.

ok, hope you don't take this as a personal attack, but man you packed so much crap into that post that needs to be addressed:

first, firing SOMEONE would show some accountability. do i think we need to can mac? no. i agree it would do nada. do we need to can him at the end of the year? yes. unless we make some miracle run i will not waiver in this statement the rest of the year.

you use draft position in one argument and then turn around and discount it in another? c'mon man . . .

what do all of those coaches have in common that mac does not? either they've taken their teams to the playoffs or they're in their first year with their team. mac cannot make either claim. he stinks on ice.

7-9 is an absolute pipe dream.

 

[Cardiac]

Re: Re: Here We Go Again

Originally posted by Ouchie-Z-Clown
ok, hope you don't take this as a personal attack, but man you packed so much crap into that post that needs to be addressed:

first, firing SOMEONE would show some accountability. do i think we need to can mac? no. i agree it would do nada. do we need to can him at the end of the year? yes. unless we make some miracle run i will not waiver in this statement the rest of the year.

you use draft position in one argument and then turn around and discount it in another? c'mon man . . .

what do all of those coaches have in common that mac does not? either they've taken their teams to the playoffs or they're in their first year with their team. mac cannot make either claim. he stinks on ice.

7-9 is an absolute pipe dream.

So who do they fire to make a statement. Marmie, that would prove nothing because Mac and he both put the schemes together. This would only cause Mac to lose credibility.

So who has to be fired. The waterboy?
Maybe Joe Green should be the sacrificial lamb but I really don't see the point at this time of the year.

Your point about my point about draft position logic or lack there of has me well..... confused. Maybe I didn't explain myself well or I'm having trouble understanding your point. What I was trying to say is that we have a ton of late to mid rd draft picks, UDFA's and other teams cast offs starting in the secondary and D-line. Just because R. Davis was drafted in the 2nd rd doesn't mean he's any good. That point is illustrated and highlighted by the fact that he was cut by the team that drafted him. This would put him in the castoff category.

So against the Rams the Cards had one 1st rd draft pick playing on the defense. Let's take a moment and digest that........ONE. So for all of you who were screaming we needed to sign some players during FA this would have been a good point to bring up. It also shows how little talent Mac and Marmie have to go to war with. When Bryant gets back on the field then this team will have two first rd picks playing defense. I bet that is the lowest number in the league.

Hope this lowers the crap meter level for you.

Some of those coaches will be on the chopping block. Jauron is not in his first year and had one playoff season. But this is really splitting hairs at this point. I was trying to show how many teams have gotten off to a slow to horrible start this year. If your point is that Mac has proven nothing so far as a HC you would be correct. My point is that some of these teams will finish much stronger than the current record indicates. Every team has bad games or stretches of games.

This post is getting far too long to go into all of the reasons why a slow start this year was likely. Let's just say that 4 games into a season is far too early to think this team won't develop and put some wins together.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

cardiac, i sincerely hope you're right, unfortunately even my meds-sogged mind says YOU'RE NUTS!

we stiiiiiwheeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEiiiiiink.

 

[Cardiac]

Originally posted by Ouchie-Z-Clown
cardiac, i sincerely hope you're right, unfortunately even my meds-sogged mind says YOU'RE NUTS!

we stiiiiiwheeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEiiiiiink.

Your meds and my own special brand of koolaid could be lethal if used (abused) together. Give me 4 more games into the season before we self medicate ourselves. By then we may very well be opening up a clinic to help all Cards fans.

As of right now this deam does indeed stink.

 

[john h]

Originally posted by Cardiac
I'm not just referring to the loss, which was horrible. It also has to do with the let's fire Mac and the entire coaching staff rants after every loss.

First of all I think most of us agree to fire Mac etc. at this point in the season would really serve no purpose.

Name another team whose starting CB's consist of a 4th, 5th and 7th rd draft picks.

The D-line at this point had one player picked before the 3rd rd playing against the Rams. I don't count R. Davis as he was cut because of performance by the Bears?.

Once again the O-line is a patchwork unit with position changes for some and key injuries.

Blake is starting to make some plays that Jake apologists can relate to. That fumble was very Jake like and explains just how desperate a QB on the Cards can become because they realize they just have to make a play.

Do you seriously think this team can go 7-9? I think we will be hard pressed to win 3 games.

2 Rookie starting WR's is not an ideal situation. As good as Q as been you can see the rookie mistakes he makes. BJ is in the same boat. Both will be great in a year or two but this team needed Gilmore and McAddely to step up more this year. Oh yeah, and a better Vet WR then Foster would have helped as well.

A couple of other notes:

Freeney for the Colts didn't really start getting playing time until midway through last season. Too much too soon for Pace at this point. I wonder how many plays Suggs is getting a game? I doubt anywhere near what Pace is.

Are the Saints going to fire Hasslett?

The 49ers going to fire Erickson?

The Falcons ... Reeves?

The Bears ..... Jauron?

The Packers .... Sherman?

The Pats .... Billichek?

The Browns .... Davis?

The Chargers .... Schottenheimer ?

The Jags .... Del Rio?

The Raiders ...

The ....

Every week teams get blown out by other teams. Yes the Cards are ahead of the curve but any objective fan could have seen this, especailly this early in the year and with the injuries this team had in preseason. Losing Starks was the dagger to the heart. He was the only one who could contain either Holt or Bruce. Not having more depth at this position was a critical mistake but not the coaching staff's fault.

The Chiefs Defense was horrible last year and many called for Robinson's head. It's amazing what a couple of quality FA's will do for a team. RG went after Holliday and Colvin ( similar to Barber) and was jilted. This has more to do with the Bidwill's reputation than either RG or Mac.

Of course the Tuna would have had a huge impact but once again the Bidwill's stood no chance of attracting that kind of coaching talent.

Most teams that pick up several FA's and add a new OC and WR, DE, DB and O-line coaches will struggle early. Especially with the lack of talent on this team. 4 games into the season is far too early to deem this team a complete failure at this point.

A 3-5 or 2-6 start is looking us square in the face. The true test is the 2nd half of the season as all of the schemes and new players start to mesh.

I still think my 7-9 prediction for the season is possible. What Coach Mac has to do now is keep the team morale up until this team starts to click.

Every year we see teams start the season off horribly and then rally to finish well. Every year we see teams get off to a great start to fall apart and finish poorly.

That's one reason why the playoffs don't start after 4 games into the season.

 

[JeffGollin]

Guaranteed to be Posted After a Loss

- Fire the coaches!

- We really aren't that bad.

Never fails.