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A) That's bush league, ninny type stuff
B) Why would you want Frye to get tossed? He's one of the more dangerous guys on your roster.

I'd have understood it if you said Lou giving a flagrant, but A would still apply.
 

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uh, anyone who wants Artest to get suspended hasn't been watching the playoffs. I WANT him in the game and I WANT him shooting. Dude's horrendous on O and his D is extremely over-rated. He's the guy we should be doubling off at all times.
 

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Why does everyone think the Lakers had an easy time with OKC? They definitely did not.
 

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Why does everyone think the Lakers had an easy time with OKC? They definitely did not.

I'm not sure who you're referring to here. If it's me, I don't think they had an easy time with OKC. I think OKC should have been a comparatively easy out in these playoffs because of their perhaps unheard of lack of experience. I found it surprising that the Lakers struggled with them and it makes me wonder just how good this team really is. Of course, if Kobe is now truly all the way back we'll soon find out the hard way just how good they are.

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by the Lakers playing well, what I really mean is Kobe looks like Kobe again. With him unhobbled and Gasol being pretty much unstoppable against us, I just see very long odds in this series. More than anyone, Kobe's benefited from a very favorable schedule that the Lakers have gotten, giving up and his injuries time to heal themselves enough for him to be dominant. Then again, if Bynum's injury flares big (and it could and it's already been said that he's not gonna get any better with rest), that could be big for us.

It would certainly help if Bynum's problems were to flare up but in truth, a healthy Kobe is probably all they'll really need. Grant has been playing excellent defense but I can't see him causing much trouble if you're right about Bryant.

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Every fan is arrogant, I repeat.... I've seen plenty of Suns fans quotes along this path

Since when did "plenty of fans" become "every fan"?

I guarantee you I am not arrogant about the Suns.
 

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I've been saying this for almost 3 months now.. I watched a lot of laker games down the stretch of the end of the season.. The lakers just plain and simple cannot blow teams out, its almost impossible.. Their games always end up going down till the 2 minute mark left in the 4th quarter and most likely down to them always having last possesion with kobe shooting.

They did have their struggles with OKC.. Utah beat a nuggets team that was just lost, dazed, and confused without their coach. Then the lakers beat a heavily beat up Jazz team.

As for artest, game 1 OKC he bothered the crap out of KD then KD pretty much had enough of his crap and came up a little big.. Artest did have a big role that affect KD nonetheless. His O is pretty useless but his D is no way overrated IMO.
 

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Why does everyone think the Lakers had an easy time with OKC? They definitely did not.

Who thinks that?

Lakers don't matchup well with OKC - it was a tough out for them. They are a solid defensive unit (top 5 D team) with a great scoring guard and a beast of a PG in Westbrook...fast and athletic, which is trouble for the Lakers. It took the Lakers some time to figure them out, and put them away. But that's a 50 win team, not a chump team. The Lakers won that series because of the inexperience of OKC, and Artest making everything tough for Durant.

That series looked just like the regular season games with OKC...tough, hard fought contests.
 

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Since when did "plenty of fans" become "every fan"?

I guarantee you I am not arrogant about the Suns.

Ok, I guess when I say "fan" I am really meaning "fanbase." Overall, I believe every fanbase is ruled by the loudest, most obnoxious of the bunch who are arrogant and cocky even if their team sucks - who live in the past or the what-ifs, and that other teams fans ALWAYS use those fans as their motivation on why they hate the other side.

No, not all of the fans in the fanbase fall into that definition (you are an example) but as a sum of all of them together, the fanbase is seen as arrogant. Or ignorant. Or both.
 

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A) That's bush league, ninny type stuff
B) Why would you want Frye to get tossed? He's one of the more dangerous guys on your roster.

I'd have understood it if you said Lou giving a flagrant, but A would still apply.

Trying to injure and anger by breaking the rules is bad form. That is Spurs ball and I want no part of it. Though I hate the Lakers, even they do not play that way.
 

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Trying to injure and anger by breaking the rules is bad form. That is Spurs ball and I want no part of it. Though I hate the Lakers, even they do not play that way.

this squad may not, but jackson teams of the past have. i'm not saying rick fox tried to injure anyone, but he baited and played fairly dirty. he was jackson's rodman for the lakers when they had none.
 

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Who thinks that?

Lakers don't matchup well with OKC - it was a tough out for them. They are a solid defensive unit (top 5 D team) with a great scoring guard and a beast of a PG in Westbrook...fast and athletic, which is trouble for the Lakers. It took the Lakers some time to figure them out, and put them away. But that's a 50 win team, not a chump team. The Lakers won that series because of the inexperience of OKC, and Artest making everything tough for Durant.

That series looked just like the regular season games with OKC...tough, hard fought contests.

See I think thats funny. We ran Oklahoma up and down the floor and were 3-1 against them I believe this year. I don't think the Suns would have had any issues with OKC and would have knocked them out in 5 games or less.

By that logic are running and our athletes should give you guys trouble. as well. And we have been playing better defense then them the last 4 months of the season too.

It depends on Richardson really. If he scores 8PPG (IIRC what he has averaged against them) we are screwed. If he can be a reliable 2nd or 3rd option at the 15ppg+ level, I think LA is in trouble.

We will see. I am tired of playing it in my head. I want to see the games. Suns should be motivated, rested, and fearless come Monday.
 

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See I think thats funny. We ran Oklahoma up and down the floor and were 3-1 against them I believe this year.

Suns were 1-2 against them. JRich's buzzard beater in the game Nash sat being the win.

Though I agree the Suns would have run them off the court in the playoffs.
 

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See I think thats funny. We ran Oklahoma up and down the floor and were 3-1 against them I believe this year. I don't think the Suns would have had any issues with OKC and would have knocked them out in 5 games or less.

By that logic are running and our athletes should give you guys trouble. as well. And we have been playing better defense then them the last 4 months of the season too.

I doubt the suns would have had problems with OKC, at all. And yes, I think the Suns are a trouble matchup for the Lakers. I think the Lakers will struggle with the Suns for sure, but I believe their length and experience will carry them through.



It depends on Richardson really. If he scores 8PPG (IIRC what he has averaged against them) we are screwed. If he can be a reliable 2nd or 3rd option at the 15ppg+ level, I think LA is in trouble.

The two most important Lakers in this series, IMO, are Artest and Odom. Ron on JRich is crucial, we must hold him in check. Odom needs to get boards when he is in and keep a hand in Frye's face to stop the three festival, while allowing Pau to stay down low. Lakers win with success there. Of course, pinning the series on the two guys on the team with the most mental flaws is super awesome.
 

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I work with a guy who, with a straight face, told me this morning that he'll be surprised if the Suns win just one game in the series. I was speechless until I called him a fool and walked away. :D
 

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I work with a guy who, with a straight face, told me this morning that he'll be surprised if the Suns win just one game in the series.

Maybe he meant he'll be surprised if the Suns win only one game, instead of at least two...?
 

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What would be the point in that?


I think it is assumed that Channing will flagrant foul somebody. It seems like he's trying to prove that he isn't soft by committing dirty fouls.
 

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Suns were 1-2 against them. JRich's buzzard beater in the game Nash sat being the win.

Though I agree the Suns would have run them off the court in the playoffs.

Damn your right. I didn't even realize. I felt like over the course of the season we played them very well but I guess our only win was when Nash sat out and only by two points.

Ooops. Still think we would have ran them.
 

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Damn your right. I didn't even realize. I felt like over the course of the season we played them very well but I guess our only win was when Nash sat out and only by two points.

Ooops. Still think we would have ran them.

Against the Lakers, that team had the tendancy to play tough, and hang around. Close games with them in the reg season, close games in the post-season.

Nice little mix. Plus their building sounds loud as can be.
 

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