Horizon: An American Saga - Chapter 1

[Shane]

Kevin Costner newest project. Looks good imo. But I’ll eat up most westerns films.

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[Mulli]

Excuse me, Kevin, there is a rodent on your lip

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Saw the trailer before Arthur the King on Monday.

Two-part saga. Looks good.

Chapter 1 is scheduled to be released on June 28, 2024, and Chapter 2 is scheduled to be released on August 16, 2024.

 

[Rivercard]

Excuse me, Kevin, there is a rodent on your lip

"I smell a rat" says Costner in his latest Western thriller

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Horizon: An American Saga - Chapter 1

Release Date: June 28, 2024
Studio: New Line Cinema
Director: Kevin Costner
Screenwriters: Jon Baird, Kevin Costner, Mark Kasdan
Genre: Drama | Western
MPAA Rating: R for violence, some nudity and sexuality.

Starring: Kevin Costner, Sienna Miller, Sam Worthington, Jena Malone, Owen Crow Shoe, Tatanka Means, Ella Hunt, Tim Guinee, Giovanni Ribisi, Danny Huston, Colin Cunningham, Scott Haze, Tom Payne, Abbey Lee, Michael Rooker, Will Patton

Plot Summary: Chronicles a multi-faceted, 15-year span of pre-and post-Civil War expansion and settlement of the American west.

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[oaken1]

Helluva cast

 

[Chaplin]

"Sprawling" isn't as big a word that should describe this movie.

This is more How the West Was Won than Open Range. Several disconnected stories happening at the same time, all of which seemingly have nothing to do with each other.

As expected, the cinematography is breathtaking and the acting is really solid. This is Dances With Wolves x1000. Definitely worth seeing on the biggest screen possible, but it is pretty long.

 

[oaken1]

"Sprawling" isn't as big a word that should describe this movie.

This is more How the West Was Won than Open Range. Several disconnected stories happening at the same time, all of which seemingly have nothing to do with each other.

As expected, the cinematography is breathtaking and the acting is really solid. This is Dances With Wolves x1000. Definitely worth seeing on the biggest screen possible, but it is pretty long.

Im a Costner fan... that dudes dedication to keeping the "Western" alive is single handedly saving the genre

 

[Stout]

I'm in the middle of this, but have relegated it to background viewing. The visuals are great, but it's largely incoherent and we're supposed to care about characters before having them introduced or knowing a damn thing about them. Some awful fridging early on.

 

[Stout]

Oh, and you can be shot four times in the chest at close range and keep trying to get up like Robocop? Gimme a break. This movie's a joke.

 

[Shane]

Oh, and you can be shot four times in the chest at close range and keep trying to get up like Robocop? Gimme a break. This movie's a joke.

Not really that far fetched. Can and does happen… More often than you think. Surprisingly. I would say even moreso back in those days which is being portrayed due to no hollow point expanding bullets back then as well.

 

[Stout]

Not really that far fetched. Can and does happen… More often than you think. Surprisingly. I would say even moreso back in those days which is being portrayed due to no hollow point expanding bullets back then as well.

Dude took four .44 rounds center mass from feet away and was grinning and trying to get up like nothing happened. Sorry, no.

 

[Chaplin]

Dude took four .44 rounds center mass from feet away and was grinning and trying to get up like nothing happened. Sorry, no.

I guess if you want people to take your expertise in story creation, you should probably do the same for a cop talking about how wounds occur, no?

 

[Shane]

Dude took four .44 rounds center mass from feet away and was grinning and trying to get up like nothing happened. Sorry, no.

It literally happens whether you want to believe that there are documented cases of people being shot 10-12 times at close range and keep coming. And that’s with today’s round technology which is far superior at inflicting damage.

There s video too but I won’t post here to graphic.

An Air Force combat controller, who saved an entire navy seal team, and won the Medal of Honor, fighting off an entire hoard of Al-Qaeda… The whole thing is caught on video and if I recall correctly, they said he sustained over 30 bullet wounds mostly todays assault rifles rounds(AK) and multiple fractures and shrapnel wounds. Actually lost consciousness and came to and continue fighting for over an hour.

My old Sgt and like 2 other cops were in a point blank shootout with a suspect. Literally opening fire on each other from feet away. The three cops put something like 28 rounds in the guy. He said it seemed like slow motion and you could see the perps shirt getting more and more soaked with blood but just kept coming. Was the scariest moment in his police career never thought the guy was gonna go down.

Just because it doesn’t seem possible doesn’t mean it isn’t. But hey you can believe it’s just not possible if you want I guess.

 

[Cheesebeef]

this movie lived up to every single legitimate criticism slathered on by the press when it came out... too long, felt like a three hour pilot for a TV show where a ton of stuff happens that makes no sense, all the characters are so paper thin that I couldn't even tell you a single name any of them had in the movie, oh... and Kevin Costner is in the movie for a total of 40 minutes out of 3 HOURS.

And yet... I'll be oddly compelled to watch the sequel just to see how bizarre the next part of the "saga" is told.

 

[Chaplin]

It's a gigantic Robert Altman joint. Whether that is good over a 9 hour timespan and good with today's audiences is a whole other question.

 

[Cheesebeef]

It's a gigantic Robert Altman joint. Whether that is good over a 9 hour timespan and good with today's audiences is a whole other question.

I think what makes it so bizarre is that it may be trying to be an Altman-esque western, but totally ignores what made Altman’s movies (the good ones) great, with the editing and ability to shift nimbly from a bunch of seemingly disparate storylines, splicing between them until they eventually came together. This movie is literally just three, one hour long chunks of different stories… the first two that have zero crossover and the only thing that ties any of them together is late in the movie when the dude from Avatar shows back up along with Michael Rooker and his Irish accent which keeps disappearing in every other scene he’s in.

 

[Stout]

I guess if you want people to take your expertise in story creation, you should probably do the same for a cop talking about how wounds occur, no?

I suppose I fell victim to a modern version of the Tiffany problem. I bow to Shane's knowledge because I know his experience is legit.

Still hated how the scene was handled

 

[Stout]

It literally happens whether you want to believe that there are documented cases of people being shot 10-12 times at close range and keep coming. And that’s with today’s round technology which is far superior at inflicting damage.

There s video too but I won’t post here to graphic.

An Air Force combat controller, who saved an entire navy seal team, and won the Medal of Honor, fighting off an entire hoard of Al-Qaeda… The whole thing is caught on video and if I recall correctly, they said he sustained over 30 bullet wounds mostly todays assault rifles rounds(AK) and multiple fractures and shrapnel wounds. Actually lost consciousness and came to and continue fighting for over an hour.

My old Sgt and like 2 other cops were in a point blank shootout with a suspect. Literally opening fire on each other from feet away. The three cops put something like 28 rounds in the guy. He said it seemed like slow motion and you could see the perps shirt getting more and more soaked with blood but just kept coming. Was the scariest moment in his police career never thought the guy was gonna go down.

Just because it doesn’t seem possible doesn’t mean it isn’t. But hey you can believe it’s just not possible if you want I guess.

As I said in Chap's post, you would absolutely know more about it than I would, so I accept I'm wrong.

Have you seen the scene, though? Say that 3 times fast Even with this knowledge, how they handled it in the scene was a stinker.

 

[Stout]

this movie lived up to every single legitimate criticism slathered on by the press when it came out... too long, felt like a three hour pilot for a TV show where a ton of stuff happens that makes no sense, all the characters are so paper thin that I couldn't even tell you a single name any of them had in the movie, oh... and Kevin Costner is in the movie for a total of 40 minutes out of 3 HOURS.

And yet... I'll be oddly compelled to watch the sequel just to see how bizarre the next part of the "saga" is told.

I can't say I'm compelled to watch a minute more. Maybe hate watch, if I ever get back on the treadmill, but probably not.

What the hell was up with that 9-minute "coming up on this season of" style trailer? So dumb.

 

[Shane]

As I said in Chap's post, you would absolutely know more about it than I would, so I accept I'm wrong.

Have you seen the scene, though? Say that 3 times fast Even with this knowledge, how they handled it in the scene was a stinker.

I have not seen it yet, but I do plan on it

 

[Cheesebeef]

I can't say I'm compelled to watch a minute more. Maybe hate watch, if I ever get back on the treadmill, but probably not.

What the hell was up with that 9-minute "coming up on this season of" style trailer? So dumb.

I was totally annihilated by the time the “next time on… Horizon” part came up.

My favorite moment of the entire movie was the bizarre sex scene with Costner and the Blonde woman.

 

[Chaplin]

I can't say I'm compelled to watch a minute more. Maybe hate watch, if I ever get back on the treadmill, but probably not.

What the hell was up with that 9-minute "coming up on this season of" style trailer? So dumb.

Hey! They did it with Back to the Future 2!

 

[oaken1]

I started it. But honestly was bored to tears twenty minutes in so I decided to binge watch NYPD Blue instead

 

[Stout]

I started it. But honestly was bored to tears twenty minutes in so I decided to binge watch NYPD Blue instead

Wise to switch it off.