Horton interview (Somers)

[O]

He has a staff plan and he said his OC and DC would be experts at there postions. That's all we have to go off of.

Interesting fact;

When Norv Turner was the OC in Dallas, Horton was a player there.

 

[juza76]

We will see. He has been successful so far in the roles he has taken so he does have that going for him.

Did u like tajh boyd performance against Lsu. I. Think smith wilson boyd are better prospects

 

[WildBB]

His willingness to work with a collective in terms of making personnel decisions might be what sells him to Mike. It seems Mike wants the front office to be stronger, and wants to have an opinion which Horton seems amendable to.

I'd totally agree. FO wants back equal input on all co-ordinator positions and real say on the teams' personell to whoever takes on the HC spot.

I'd say Ray fits like a driving glove there.

 

[Superfuzz]

Just get him a Vet OC, a competent GM and we will be in the playoffs in 2 years if not sooner.

 

[HoodieBets]

Where did you get that from?

I get that from how he is making it seem like he will be the opposite of whiz who wanted control. He doesnt seem like he would mind if MB had an active role in decision making. Thats how I took it. That thinking is exactly what MB wants tho so that could be the reason Horton gets the edge over the expierenced guy and staff. The only way I will be okay with it is if he brings in a guy like Norv Turner to run the offense.

 

[D-Dogg]

Where did you get that from?

Horton will hire coaches. But the allusion was to power plays on talent acquistion, which will likely fall to the GM. Which is the type of system I like best, personally.

 

[Chopper0080]

He has a staff plan and he said his OC and DC would be experts at there postions. That's all we have to go off of.

Keep in mind Horton played with Dallas 89-92 while Norv Turner was on the staff 91-93. Then when Norv was hired as head coach of the Redskins in 94, Horton was brought on the staff as a defensive asst, and then promoted to defensive backs coach in 95. He coached on Norv's staff through the 96 season and was then hired by the Bengals.

So, if you want to guess on an expert OC whom Horton has a history with, who has been available for him to talk to, and he is confident he can bring on his staff, you may start with the Norv Turner speculation.

 

[WildBB]

Horton will hire coaches. But the allusion was to power plays on talent acquistion, which will likely fall to the GM. Which is the type of system I like best, personally.

Yes , keeps a much more balanced equation. And you want flexability from the HC, like you said earlier.

 

[D-Dogg]

Uhm, if there was any truth to Norv as Horton's OC, then just cancel all other interviews and lock him up now.

Norv is a first rate OC, calls a hell of a game. And to boot, he's an atrocious head coach, and this is known league wide now, so it's unlikely he's going to bolt for a HC position like some hotshot OC looking for a HC gig might do.

My dream scenario is Norv as OC and Horton as HC, but it's so damn pipe that I don't even entertain it.

 

[WildBB]

Keep in mind Horton played with Dallas 89-92 while Norv Turner was on the staff 91-93. Then when Norv was hired as head coach of the Redskins in 94, Horton was brought on the staff as a defensive asst, and then promoted to defensive backs coach in 95. He coached on Norv's staff through the 96 season and was then hired by the Bengals.

So, if you want to guess on an expert OC whom Horton has a history with, who has been available for him to talk to, and he is confident he can bring on his staff, you may start with the Norv Turner speculation.

 

[kerouac9]

Where did you get that from?

I believe he meant "personnel" in terms of players, not "personnel" in terms of coaching staff. Generally, head coaches get to choose what their staff is going to be until they lose the opportunity to choose.

FWIW, while Michael Bidwill said that they didn't discuss Whis giving up more personnel authority as a condition of his firing, he didn't say that he was offered the chance to replace staff or assistants. No one asked him.

 

[Nash2Amare]

His willingness to work with a collective in terms of making personnel decisions might be what sells him to Mike. It seems Mike wants the front office to be stronger, and wants to have an opinion which Horton seems amendable to.

Agreed. I like this more and I would think Michael feels the same. With Reid, he wants a lot of control -- I don't want Whiz 2.0.

Only way I'm satisfied with Reid is if it's Keim/Reid/Horton.. which is highly unlikely.


edit: Oh, and that Somers interview with Horton is awesome. I was sold on Horton already, but that was good stuff.

 

[Totally_Red]

Keep in mind Horton played with Dallas 89-92 while Norv Turner was on the staff 91-93. Then when Norv was hired as head coach of the Redskins in 94, Horton was brought on the staff as a defensive asst, and then promoted to defensive backs coach in 95. He coached on Norv's staff through the 96 season and was then hired by the Bengals.

So, if you want to guess on an expert OC whom Horton has a history with, who has been available for him to talk to, and he is confident he can bring on his staff, you may start with the Norv Turner speculation.

I would absolutely love it if he brought in Norv Turner as O.C. Ray as head coach and Norv as offensive coordinator would be awesome IMO.

 

[Buckybird]

Keep in mind Horton played with Dallas 89-92 while Norv Turner was on the staff 91-93. Then when Norv was hired as head coach of the Redskins in 94, Horton was brought on the staff as a defensive asst, and then promoted to defensive backs coach in 95. He coached on Norv's staff through the 96 season and was then hired by the Bengals.

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Damn I forgot about him being on the Skins staff. Wow, Norv would be a great find IF we could get a very good QB. But Norvs offenses did suck in Washington because of the QB play & wasn't all that good in his last years of SD.

Good stuff chopper

 

[Totally_Red]

Uhm, if there was any truth to Norv as Horton's OC, then just cancel all other interviews and lock him up now.

Norv is a first rate OC, calls a hell of a game. And to boot, he's an atrocious head coach, and this is known league wide now, so it's unlikely he's going to bolt for a HC position like some hotshot OC looking for a HC gig might do.

My dream scenario is Norv as OC and Horton as HC, but it's so damn pipe that I don't even entertain it.

<championship> and there is no absolutely no sarcism intended.

 

[Shane]

Damn I forgot about him being on the Skins staff. Wow, Norv would be a great find IF we could get a very good QB. But Norvs offenses did suck in Washington because of the QB play & wasn't all that good in his last years of SD.

Good stuff chopper

He was the HC. Most if not all of his O's as OC were really good.

 

[conraddobler]

Talk is cheap, trying to figure out if the guy is going to be a good HC from an interview is tricky business.

Interviews are tricky things, Whiz sounded good at one time in an interview too, all candidates that are hired sounded good at the time, most turn out to be duds.

The interviewer is the most important part of the equation, it only comes with experience, it's more a feel than anything.

I like Michael but I have very little faith in him on this one, that's why I would of prefered he hired a GM to let them do this, this is probably going to go down in flames.

 

[WildBB]

Talk is cheap, trying to figure out if the guy is going to be a good HC from an interview is tricky business.

Interviews are tricky things, Whiz sounded good at one time in an interview too, all candidates that are hired sounded good at the time, most turn out to be duds.

The interviewer is the most important part of the equation, it only comes with experience, it's more a feel than anything.

I like Michael but I have very little faith in him on this one, that's why I would of prefered he hired a GM to let them do this, this is probably going to go down in flames.

Keim and Licht were in on the interview process with Horton.

 

[JeffGollin]

Uhm, if there was any truth to Norv as Horton's OC, then just cancel all other interviews and lock him up now.

Norv is a first rate OC, calls a hell of a game. And to boot, he's an atrocious head coach, and this is known league wide now, so it's unlikely he's going to bolt for a HC position like some hotshot OC looking for a HC gig might do.

My dream scenario is Norv as OC and Horton as HC, but it's so damn pipe that I don't even entertain it.

As of right now, this.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves. As good as Ray seems to be, give McCoy and Reid their chance to shine and either might surprise us all. And (despite the visit to Oregon's practice was supposed to be only to scout draft prospects) I wouldn't ignore Chip Kelly.

Finally, one other aspect of coaching you can't get from an interview: How does the dude handle adversity? (Wiz's downfall)? How good is he at making mid-game adjustments?

My point - we should cool our jets and let the process play itself out. (Better to be right than to be first).

 

[Buckybird]

He was the HC. Most if not all of his O's as OC were really good.

That's what I meant
Where you been hiding?

 

[DemsMyBoys]

I like Michael but I have very little faith in him on this one, that's why I would of prefered he hired a GM to let them do this, this is probably going to go down in flames.

I have more faith in Michael after reading the interviews and what questions he asked.

Think about it. Michael's a former prosecutor. He knows exactly what to ask and what he should look for IMO. He been around the game and the organization his whole life.

I'm a lot more impressed with him after reading this than I was at his presser.

Now I just need to keep calm and not get to excited because the idea of Horton as HC is really starting to sound like Fun. (Which Michael talked about at his presser.) Oh, yeah. Michael and Horton might be a great combination.

And they're both pilots. Common ground is a good thing.

 

[WildBB]

As of right now, this.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves. As good as Ray seems to be, give McCoy and Reid their chance to shine and either might surprise us all. And (despite the visit to Oregon's practice was supposed to be only to scout draft prospects) I wouldn't ignore Chip Kelly.

Finally, one other aspect of coaching you can't get from an interview: How does the dude handle adversity? (Wiz's downfall)? How good is he at making mid-game adjustments?

My point - we should cool our jets and let the process play itself out. (Better to be right than to be first).

Perfect.

 

[Russ Smith]

Definitely got a great attitude

 

[HoodieBets]

Definitely got a great attitude

attitude doesn't win games, Ill take experience over a press conference any day of the week. The only way Horton is a good hire is if he brings Turner in to run the offense.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm sold, give him the job. I really wanted Lovie Smith until I read this interview and now I'm convinced this guy deserves the opportunity. If he doesn't get it here he'll get it somewhere this year and he's given us enough reason to believe he's the right guy, IMO.

Steve