How Attractive is the AZ Job?

[Buckeye Cardinal]

1st pick off the waiver wire.

1st round pick.

Don’t need to draft a QB.

David Johnson....PP...Chandler Jones and a few others.

 

[Zeno]

Question: How attractive is the AZ coaching job?

Answer: Not very for the qualified candidates

To wit:

a. You now have a GM on the hot seat. If he's fired (like he should have been), the new GM will want his own head ball coach, not someone else's leftovers.

b. QB with a big question mark on him due to turmoil in OCs and player development.

c. Management which has tried to lowball quality players in negotiations.

d. Disgruntled star talent broadcasting a negative image around the league.

e. Last successful coach "retired," took a year off and now is sniffing around other teams.

f. Ownership's history of accepting mediocrity.

For the up-and-coming skill coach or OC, it's a carrot to bite. But if you're talking about veteran, winning coaches who can call their own shot, something's rotten in the state of Denmark.

I really question C--who did we lowball? When Fitz signed his deal he was one of highest paid players in the NFL (not just WR), PP is one of the highest paid DBs, Chandler Jones one of the highest paid DEs, DJ one of the highest paid RBS, we overpaid Tyran Mathieu coming off of injury, we overpaid Sam Bradford, we over paid Gresham...every other veteran seems to be getting paid what they should.

As for F...
I don't see recent history showing that at all. Whisenhunt was the most successful coach in the franchise history, he starts losing and he is gone...they immediately looked to upgrade the coaching position. This year the coach flat out stinks and ownership was not allowing that to stand so one and done.

 

[gmabel830]

Firing a HC after just one season factors into this as well. Regardless of reason, that may very well cause candidates to not consider the Cardinals.

I think this will have an impact as well.

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[Snoopdog323]

QB is everything. Next coach won’t get the chance to have overthrosens replacement. If overthrosen fails the gm will be canned and the next one will want his own guy. The team will have to stink it up to a bad pick again or get lucky with a Warner.

To bad our QB didn’t even show flashes of something special this season.

 

[cwamjn]

Question: How attractive is the AZ coaching job?

Answer: Not very for the qualified candidates

To wit:

a. You now have a GM on the hot seat. If he's fired (like he should have been), the new GM will want his own head ball coach, not someone else's leftovers.

b. QB with a big question mark on him due to turmoil in OCs and player development.

c. Management which has tried to lowball quality players in negotiations.

d. Disgruntled star talent broadcasting a negative image around the league.

e. Last successful coach "retired," took a year off and now is sniffing around other teams.

f. Ownership's history of accepting mediocrity.

For the up-and-coming skill coach or OC, it's a carrot to bite. But if you're talking about veteran, winning coaches who can call their own shot, something's rotten in the state of Denmark.

I'd re-word C and D.

C. Management appears to have a short leash for coaches. They made a late hire with the HC last year so we will never know if these coordinators were his picks. (possibility Arians was run out, and now a 1 and done after making OC change mid-season.)

F. Ownership may be making football decisions.

 

[wa52lz]

QB is everything. Next coach won’t get the chance to have overthrosens replacement. If overthrosen fails the gm will be canned and the next one will want his own guy. The team will have to stink it up to a bad pick again or get lucky with a Warner.

To bad our QB didn’t even show flashes of something special this season.

So you're not a fan of Josh Rosen???

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[Snoopdog323]

a. You now have a GM on the hot seat. If he's fired (like he should have been), the new GM will want his own head ball coach, not someone else's leftovers.

Strongly agreed. This talk of manyyears is nonsense. When Keim goes, so will the coach.

 

[Southpaw]

packers aren't as good as you think. FA's don't love living in Green Bay, they don't have a ton of money to spend after Rodgers contract, and draft n develop is a hot or miss proposition that takes time.

better tell Josh McDaniels that

 

[Chopper0080]

better tell Josh McDaniels that

I have already sent him a text.

 

[daves]

Firing a HC after just one season factors into this as well. Regardless of reason, that may very well cause candidates to not consider the Cardinals.

I doubt it - if anything, it seems extremely unlikely the Cardinals would fire ANOTHER coach after a single season, plus every coach worth hiring will believe he can do better than Wilks, plus he'll get a multi-year contract that's partly/mostly guaranteed, even if he's fired.

...dbs

 

[PACardsFan]

packers aren't as good as you think. FA's don't love living in Green Bay, they don't have a ton of money to spend after Rodgers contract, and draft n develop is a hot or miss proposition that takes time.

I agree. In addition, the Packers FO is vastly overrated. I also think that Rodgers is no longer in his prime. Not necessarily past his prime, but a tad bit right of center. I'm not being political either

 

[Brak]

It is one of the top 3 jobs available.

If you mean "in Phoenix", then yes.

 

[wagonmound464]

QB is everything.
Next coach won’t get the chance to have overthrosens replacement.

** > To bad our QB didn’t even show flashes of something special this season.

Agree,,,, IMO a wasted selection in last year's draft. They gave up on SamB too soon, but believe few of you guys would agree with me on that. Guess we'll never know. 3 - 16 >

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Rosen will never be half the QB that Patrick Maholmes is.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

It depends on the team. This team right now is a hot mess. The offensive line is in tatters, the WR corp is in tatters, the linebacking corp is mediocre at best, the secondary is, well you get the idea. This team needs lots of work and it won't be done overnight.

Why about the secondary? The one with Patrick Peterson, budda and Swearinger back?

 

[swagron]

Question: How attractive is the AZ coaching job?

Answer: Not very for the qualified candidates

To wit:

a. You now have a GM on the hot seat. If he's fired (like he should have been), the new GM will want his own head ball coach, not someone else's leftovers.

b. QB with a big question mark on him due to turmoil in OCs and player development.

c. Management which has tried to lowball quality players in negotiations.

d. Disgruntled star talent broadcasting a negative image around the league.

e. Last successful coach "retired," took a year off and now is sniffing around other teams.

f. Ownership's history of accepting mediocrity.

For the up-and-coming skill coach or OC, it's a carrot to bite. But if you're talking about veteran, winning coaches who can call their own shot, something's rotten in the state of Denmark.

Nail...meet hammer.

 

[AZ Native]

Firing a HC after just one season factors into this as well. Regardless of reason, that may very well cause candidates to not consider the Cardinals.

I don't know about this. After a 3-13 there is nowhere to go but up. Easy to show improvement. First overall draft pick and first in all other rounds, go back to our 3-4 defense, a much better special teams, lots of money to spend in free agency. Sounds like a good gig to me.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Agree,,,, IMO a wasted selection in last year's draft. They gave up on SamB too soon, but believe few of you guys would agree with me on that. Guess we'll never know. 3 - 16 >

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Rosen will never be half the QB that Patrick Maholmes is.

Well, I'll be quite happy with 25 TDs and somewhere in the neighbourhood of 4000 yards..

And I'm betting that will be better than any QB named 'Maholmes'.

 

[AZ Native]

It's a good spot if you have a wife. Would she rather live in Green Bay or here?

 

[GuernseyCard]

Question: How attractive is the AZ coaching job?

Answer: Not very for the qualified candidates

To wit:

a. You now have a GM on the hot seat. If he's fired (like he should have been), the new GM will want his own head ball coach, not someone else's leftovers.

b. QB with a big question mark on him due to turmoil in OCs and player development.

c. Management which has tried to lowball quality players in negotiations.

d. Disgruntled star talent broadcasting a negative image around the league.

e. Last successful coach "retired," took a year off and now is sniffing around other teams.

f. Ownership's history of accepting mediocrity.

For the up-and-coming skill coach or OC, it's a carrot to bite. But if you're talking about veteran, winning coaches who can call their own shot, something's rotten in the state of Denmark.

And the trump to all of this, even if accepted, is that there are only 32 of these gigs and they pay multi-millions.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I doubt it - if anything, it seems extremely unlikely the Cardinals would fire ANOTHER coach after a single season, plus every coach worth hiring will believe he can do better than Wilks, plus he'll get a multi-year contract that's partly/mostly guaranteed, even if he's fired.

...dbs

Would you be excited to work for a boss who is on the hot seat? I wouldn’t be.

 

[AZ Native]

Would you be excited to work for a boss who is on the hot seat? I wouldn’t be.

Maybe if it was 1 of 32 jobs in the world?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Maybe if it was 1 of 32 jobs in the world?

If had a choice of a few of those would you take the one with the lame duck GM?

Or are you good with whomever is left over again?

 

[AZ Native]

If had a choice of a few of those would you take the one with the lame duck GM?

Or are you good with whomever is left over again?

C'mon Ouchie, it is 1 of 32 jobs and the one that most likely will show the most improvement. I would not give a rat's a$$ about the lame duck GM, if I show improvement I will be back. The other jobs are crap jobs in one way or the other. That's why they are available.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

C'mon Ouchie, it is 1 of 32 jobs and the one that most likely will show the most improvement. I would not give a rat's a$$ about the lame duck GM, if I show improvement I will be back. The other jobs are crap jobs in one way or the other. That's why they are available.

You’re fooling yourself if you think lame duck GM is not a factor in the best candidates’ analysis of which jobs to pursue. But I’m sure if any of them pass in us you’ll find reasons why they weee going to be terrible here.

 

[az jam]

Great place to live. #1 pick in the draft and each round. First on waiver wire. Lots of cap money. Young starting QB in Rosen. Some good established players.
Excellent stadium. Lots to like.