Come on BW52. If you have an opposing viewpoint you are a whiner.
No, if you state any view over and over again for weeks on in, you are just being argumentative, trolling, or whining.
Come on BW52. If you have an opposing viewpoint you are a whiner.
Yep move on!Who knows? And who really cares?
Kyler Murray is the Arizona Cardinals starting Quarterback.
Gruden in Oakland took a solid, but not special defensive end at #4 overall. He took a solid, but not special RB and Safety later in Round one. IMO their moves were awful; taking two non-premium players when much better players were available at more important positions is stupid. So who cares what they think?
No, if you state any view over and over again for weeks on in, you are just being argumentative, trolling, or whining.
Does that apply to the Murray is great and best player in the draft threads also?
Maybe you wanna join the club? Seems a little silly not to at this point..jmoFunny comment from the president of the Murrayites fan club.
Maybe you wanna join the club? Seems a little silly not to at this point..jmo[/QUOTE
No, if you state any view over and over again for weeks on in, you are just being argumentative, trolling, or whining.
Telling me to "sack up" and get over it.Nice moderating Chris..I asked a freaking question and who is being a jerk now? You are not the opinion police or thought. patrol.
100% See my poll.
Every thread right now is ending up with the same people just arguing the same things over and over.
You notice I have completely stopped discussing it. It's tiresome
In the immortal word of Steve Keim "He is for now"The answer is "Unknown if any"
The answer is also "It doesn't matter since Murray is our quarterback so sack up and get over it."
Funny comment from the president of the Murrayites fan club.
Yep...He could've traded down to 10, IMO...KK valted Murray to the #1 pick. Nothing else.
You might be more obsessed with Murray than the “Murrayites”.
I haven't been able to find anything that says yes maybe someone else did but so far the answer is NOI asked a simple freaking question.I really wanted to know if there was any interest in trading up for Murray.If that is pisses people off then do be it.
No there wasnt sinply because the Cardinals brass decide to pick Murray long time a goI asked a simple freaking question.I really wanted to know if there was any interest in trading up for Murray.If that is pisses people off then do be it.
I'm with you on that, lots of other players on the board more talented than the ones the Raiders actually drafted. All the football gurus on t.v. & radio are salivating over their picks. I think our draft was better than theirs. I haven't seen one overall draft grade for us below an "A" so far & I've looked at a bunch of them.Who knows? And who really cares?
Kyler Murray is the Arizona Cardinals starting Quarterback.
Gruden in Oakland took a solid, but not special defensive end at #4 overall. He took a solid, but not special RB and Safety later in Round one. IMO their moves were awful; taking two non-premium players when much better players were available at more important positions is stupid. So who cares what they think?
I understand what you're saying, Nkemdiche & Reddick so far haven't lived up to their potential but we have a solid foundation at several positions, definitely not all. Imo, Reddick was a BA pick because of playing at his Alma mater, Nkemdiche is just lazy. The draft is a crap shoot for any team though, i like our draft to go along with the foundation we have in place at several positions though. We could've done more at the OL & LBer positions though, I'm sure the signings of Gilbert, Sweezey & Hicks caused that. Time will tell on our picks but I think this is our best draft in several yrs.Apparently Mayock didn't want to take any risks at all in the draft, be it in terms of character flaws or technique deficits. He passed on much better athletes with character or technique question marks. I think the reason is that their roster has been lacking consistent and dependable players. So he got 3 players in the 1st round that are more likely solid NFL starters rather than superstars, maybe even below average in terms of 1st round talent. But they will play hard, mistake-free football and set a new tone for the Raiders franchise. They continued this trend in rounds 2 to 5 as well, selecting fundamentally sound football players without big upside. Time will tell, but building a solid foundation sometimes pays off. They for sure avoided a Reddick or Nkemdiche type pick, where projection and athleticism are higher valued than actual production and football IQ. We made those high upside picks because we falsely believed that we are close, living in the past. At least Mayock has recognized that the Raiders aren't close and need solid football players more than flashy high risk prospects.