Right. That's also a narrowmindedness when there are many other factors to consider. Like @Chris_Sanders demonstrated, it's cherry picking to look at this stat when most of it was influenced by one season.
Lol so somehow that doesn’t count as wins for shanahan as head coach? We should count the losses when he doesn’t have a QB but shouldn’t count the wins when he has a good D. Got it. Y’all’s joints must be aching from all the ways y’all are pretzeling to cast shanahan as a bad coach.
There’s the BS hyperbole when someone can’t make an argument. No one in this discussion has called him “football Jesus” or come NEAR to any such high praise. He’s a good coach. You don’t think so. And arians can be a better coach and shanahan can still be a good coach. I know, strains credulity with you for some reason.
Also, I never said that’s the only factor - but keep putting words in my mouth to try to strengthen your argument, krang.
Talk about putting words in mouth!
That’s reasonable. Though I think McVay and even Pete are better head coaches. And I’m willing to consider kliff as better if this season stays on track.
Overrated by whom exactly?
I don’t know about that... I’ve read some pretty high praise of Shanahan with comments like “the greatest offensive mind in football” I’ve heard him called a QB genius etc.... He gets some really really high praise around these parts. And honestly iirc you’re one of them over the last couple years.
I have never said either of those things or anything remotely close to them. I’ve argued he’s a good coach. So no, you do not remember correctly. If you want to reply to this post you had better have specific quoted posts from me showing anything remotely close to those.
Nahhh I don’t need to go find those to much time and to tedious. It’s def been said around here. If it wasn’t by you then maybe my memory is wrong. You def think he’s a really good coach though just based off what you’ve said in here. But some damn high praise of Shanahan has been heaped around here by multiple posters over the last few years. I’m in the camp that his record says exactly what he is. We can all just agree to disagree then much easier that way lol...
We definitely disagree. While overall record is a datapoint, taken as the sole, or even primary, indicator as to his coaching acumen is like the lowest form of analysis possible. Again, I could see that if you’re doing online rankings or if you’re an unknowledgeable football fan. But if you’re someone seeking a deeper understanding of an individuals abilities (like if you were hiring a coach) you’d take a LOT more into consideration than “you are what your record is.” And I’ve always had a healthy respect for shanahan but I’m far from thinking he’s an upper echelon NFL coach. I rank third in our division and he’s losing ground on kliff.
If you claim I said something, as Shane did, you are literally saying you remember my post. I own what I’ve said in the past and mea culpa’ed plenty on this board over time. So if you’re going to claim I said something you better be able to prove it.
alright, fair.
Need them to beat the rams
Yes please!
