Humphries Will Get Palmer Killed

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You can blame Humphries but it's also on Arians. We saw the same exact thing with Bobbie Massey and Arians always refuses to give his RT help when they are clearly overmatched. Yes, the play you pointed out he had help inside but 99% of the game he did not.
 

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At least Humphries has been able to contribute from day 1. Just like Nkemdiche. Immediate contributions
 

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Even on a double team, where he's solely responsible for the outside, he can't make a simple block. He's the Human Turnstile, Part Deux.
More like part quatro. Big LD, Brown, Keith, and now Humphries.
 
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Oh stop this year he's gone up against Aaron Donald, Leonard Williams and tonight Benett and Avril that's the cream of the crop right there in the NFL, tonight he wasn't great he's a young kid still relax he's only going to get better.
 
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Oh stop this year he's gone up against Aaron Donald, Leonard Williams and tonight Benett and Avril that's the cream of the crop right there in the NFL, tonight he wasn't great he's a young kid still relax he's only going to get better.

He had help multiple times tonight where he STILL COULDN'T KEEP THEM OFF PALMER. With HELP.

You can blame Humphries but it's also on Arians. We saw the same exact thing with Bobbie Massey and Arians always refuses to give his RT help when they are clearly overmatched. Yes, the play you pointed out he had help inside but 99% of the game he did not.

He had help. He left a free runner outside on one play where he didn't have to block inside, because it was a double-team on pass pro--AND HE STILL 100% WHIFFED.

No excuses, guys. None. He's a train wreck in pass pro, and getting worse by the week. Soooo glad we were smart enough to sign that vet backup. Oh wait...
 

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Humphries had a forgettable game, but I expect better from Veldheer and he's been underperforming.
 

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Humphries had a forgettable game, but I expect better from Veldheer and he's been underperforming.

He seems to be sliding from great his first year, to good last year to mediocre at best this year.
 

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You have no idea. I was watching with my mother, and she was legit concerned I was about to have a heart attack. This team is a kick in a nads and laughing while you roll around hurt.

Hang in there, it's going to be all right. I've only watched one time with my mother in the last 5 years. The Philly game when Honey Badger went down, and Palmer hurt his finger. Won the battle and lost the war that day. It's bad karma to watch with one's mother, in my experience. And of course, they always try to talk you off the edge, cause that's what Mom's do - which only makes it worse. Love her dearly, but not during football.
 

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You can blame Humphries but remember Mathis was suppose to be there to help him, at least that was the plan. If you look at SEA's OT situation, Wilson should be crippled by now. Difference is Wilson is more mobile and Palmer holds on to the ball to damn long. He needs to get rid of it if no one is open and not take sacks which put us in 3 and longs where defenses bring the house because they know its going to be a pass.
 

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You can blame Humphries but it's also on Arians. We saw the same exact thing with Bobbie Massey and Arians always refuses to give his RT help when they are clearly overmatched. Yes, the play you pointed out he had help inside but 99% of the game he did not.

He was constantly helped. The Cards often had one or two additional blockers aligned outside Humphries in obvious passing situations, and when Humphries was at the end of the line, WATFORD was pulling to his outside so that Humphries couldn't over-set. Humphries is terrible, and his reputation as a strong run blocker is unearned. Someone show me a play where Humphries blocks well through the whistle and doesn't just end up having his man move in the wrong direction.

Humphries fundamentals are terrible, even after spending an entire year supposedly working on his fundamentals.
 

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Meanwhile, the Seahawk fans are raving about what a steal Bradley Sowell was.
 

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Meanwhile, the Seahawk fans are raving about what a steal Bradley Sowell was.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but I would go to the Seahawk board & look what they're really saying about him.
 

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I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but I would go to the Seahawk board & look what they're really saying about him.

Nope, I saw it on one of their boards ... they are loving Sowell. Even one of their radio guys told our radio guys that he's been a pleasant surprise.
 
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You can blame Humphries but remember Mathis was suppose to be there to help him, at least that was the plan. If you look at SEA's OT situation, Wilson should be crippled by now. Difference is Wilson is more mobile and Palmer holds on to the ball to damn long. He needs to get rid of it if no one is open and not take sacks which put us in 3 and longs where defenses bring the house because they know its going to be a pass.

Sorry, but you don't trot out a guy as the anointed RT, and also not sign a vet backup, to then excuse him saying that his 'help' got injured. That's a lame excuse and takes exactly NO blame off how awful Humphries has been in pass pro. And though Palmer needs to get rid of it earlier sometimes, you can't trot that excuse out when 5 or 6 times a game there's a free rusher from your blind side arriving a moment or two after the snap. There's no way to constantly deal with that, and that's the level of Human Turnstile pass pro were getting from Humphries.
 

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All I can say is all pros are that for a reason. You expect them to out perform the OL of whoever they face. Unless you have an all pro to counter him with, their all pro will win a lot of the time. Just have to help your guy out where you can, and not over react to when your guy gets beat a few times. Our guy is very very young still. Some off season creative training would help him, ballet, yoga, karate, or whatever can get him to get out of his crotch quicker and be quicker in his shuffling and moving from side to side. Maybe he simply needs to get stronger too.
 

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I've seen much worse than Humphries as our starting tackle. He's 22 years old and a bit immature - but if we want to develop him, we take games like this as part of that process.
 
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No, games like this give your QB's season ending injuries. There's growing pains, and there's not even being able to slow your opponent down on an outside rush WHEN IT'S A DOUBLE TEAM AND HIS ONLY RESPONSIBILITY IS THE OUTSIDE. He gave up at least 5 direct lines to the QB's blind side. I mean, not even slowing the rusher down on his way to the QB. NOT excusable as mere growing pains, especially after a 'redshirt' year.
 
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