I don't believe it!

[Shogun]

Calvin Johnson posted a 4.35! At 6-5, 239 no less. Good GOD.

 

[PJ1]

Not that I thought he wouldn't but this assures he will be off the board before we pick.

 

[az jam]

He originally wasn't going to run but decide to and borrowed someones running shoes. Amazing.

 

[Shane]

Not that I thought he wouldn't but this assures he will be off the board before we pick.

We wouldnt draft him anyways.

 

[ajcardfan]

We wouldnt draft him anyways.

Yes, we wouldn't draft him. But, a 4.7 might've pushed him down past #5 making it harder to get the player we want.

 

[Shane]

Yes, we wouldn't draft him. But, a 4.7 might've pushed him down past #5 making it harder to get the player we want.

True.

 

[PJ1]

Yes, we wouldn't draft him. But, a 4.7 might've pushed him down past #5 making it harder to get the player we want.

Exactly. One less thing to worry about.

 

[spanky1]

He was always going to go in the top 4......he'll be in a Tampa uniform next year.

 

[lobo]

Not that I thought he wouldn't but this assures he will be off the board before we pick.

A very distinct possibility, but if someone want a QB and Quinn is their answer maybe they will trade down with Cleveland or Tampa. Just a maybe. Both could also consider a QB and Johnson would be there. However as good as Johnson is, I don't think that is a top need.

 

[PJ1]

A very distinct possibility, but if someone want a QB and Quinn is their answer maybe they will trade down with Cleveland or Tampa. Just a maybe. Both could also consider a QB and Johnson would be there. However as good as Johnson is, I don't think that is a top need.

I don't want him for us. I just want the top 4 picture made clearer and I believe Johnson has solidified his spot in the top 4.

 

[Nasser22]

Him and Vernon Davis are just beasts! They will both be pretty good pros.

 

[BACH]

Wow, the Raiders have a hard choice at #1.

Johnson was considered the best player, and this comfirms it. Best player or most important position (QB)

 

[Shogun]

Wow, the Raiders have a hard choice at #1.

Johnson was considered the best player, and this comfirms it. Best player or most important position (QB)

With Randy Moss, Joey Porter, AND Calvin Johnson lining up. I'll be darned if you can't get Andrew Walter to just throw it up and tell them to make a play.

 

[JM88]

Hill "lacks ideal speed" according to ESPN. Well, he posted a 4,32 today. Pretty impressive for a guy who lacks ideal speed ;-)

Anyway, i am not surprised to see Calvin Johnson run this fast. This guy is a freak and i cant really see how Raiders can take one of the quarterbacks over Calvin Johnson. He IS the BPA. No question about that.

 

[Shogun]

Yamon Figurs (my favorite return man in the draft) got a 4.30. Wow.

 

[football karma]

What this means is that IF the Cards want to trade down, they have an excellent prospect for doing it--

Oak, Det, Cle and TB all will not trade down as there will be a highly attractive player at a position of need at their spot -- at #5 -- Minnesota at #7 or Miami at #9 might want to jump up and get Brady Quinn.

If Minnesota, the CArds could trade down, and still get either Branch or Anderson -- the likely pick at #5.

 

[BACH]

What this means is that IF the Cards want to trade down, they have an excellent prospect for doing it--

Oak, Det, Cle and TB all will not trade down as there will be a highly attractive player at a position of need at their spot -- at #5 -- Minnesota at #7 or Miami at #9 might want to jump up and get Brady Quinn.

If Minnesota, the CArds could trade down, and still get either Branch or Anderson -- the likely pick at #5.

No matter what there should be teams willing to trade with us.

With this workout I consider Thomas and Johnson locks in the top 4. That means Peterson or one of the QBs at #5.

MIN, HOU, MIA could all draft a QB.

HOU would IMO be all over Peterson if he's there at #5, since he fills a big need AND he would somewhat make people forget that they passed on Bush and Young.

 

[Chopper0080]

If I am Detroit, Oakland and Cleveland I find it very difficult to not take this guy, especially Detroit. I know the history of them taking receivers in the first round but lets be honest, this guy is an immediate impact player. Pair him with Roy Williams and you have a very imposing passing attack with great speed.

Any team would be better by having this guy on their team hands down.

 

[BACH]

If I am Detroit, Oakland and Cleveland I find it very difficult to not take this guy, especially Detroit. I know the history of them taking receivers in the first round but lets be honest, this guy is an immediate impact player. Pair him with Roy Williams and you have a very imposing passing attack with great speed.

Any team would be better by having this guy on their team hands down.

But Tampa would.

 

[JeffGollin]

Seven wideouts (so far) ran in the 4.3's - L Robinson, Meacham, Figures, Hill, C Johnson, Clowney and Allison. Breaston ran a 4.41. A total of 8 (so far) ran in the 4.4's.

Speedwise, it looks like a deep year for wideouts. (Note - Ginn (foot or ankle) did not run.

 

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Yamon Figurs (my favorite return man in the draft) got a 4.30. Wow.

What did Ryne Robison do?

 

[Chopper0080]

Bach-I am not sure if you are saying that Tampa will take him or if you are calling out what you feel is an ommision on my part.

What I mean is that I believe that Calvin Johnson is a lock for Tampa barring a trade to move up by another team. The problem is that now, if you are one of these other 3 teams, it is becoming increasingly difficult to pass on a player who is putting up these numbers. He is really the only player in the top 5 that doesn't have question marks. You don't know of Thomas is mean enough. You don't know if Russell has the dedication and work ethic toexcell at the next level. Can Adrian Peterson last a whole NFL season without getting hurt? Is Brady Quinn a franchise QB or a product of Charlie Weiss? The question about Calvin Johnson is can he be what Randy Moss was supposed to be because he has the physical talent.

 

[BACH]

Bach-I am not sure if you are saying that Tampa will take him or if you are calling out what you feel is an ommision on my part.

What I mean is that I believe that Calvin Johnson is a lock for Tampa barring a trade to move up by another team. The problem is that now, if you are one of these other 3 teams, it is becoming increasingly difficult to pass on a player who is putting up these numbers. He is really the only player in the top 5 that doesn't have question marks. You don't know of Thomas is mean enough. You don't know if Russell has the dedication and work ethic toexcell at the next level. Can Adrian Peterson last a whole NFL season without getting hurt? Is Brady Quinn a franchise QB or a product of Charlie Weiss? The question about Calvin Johnson is can he be what Randy Moss was supposed to be because he has the physical talent.

I'm saying that Gruden will not pass on Johnson and Millen doesn't have the guts to draft a skill player (Johnson, Quinn, Russell). Thomas and Johnson will not slide to #5 IMO.

 

[lobo]

I don't want him for us. I just want the top 4 picture made clearer and I believe Johnson has solidified his spot in the top 4.

I can digi it. I certainly hope whatever happens and I know it is BIG longshot, that somehow Thomas is there at 5. But I know that is a dream.

 

[abomb]

In someone else's shoes! Or was that Jarrett?