I hate to say it, but the Cards FO really screwed up RE: ILB/ DWaste situation.

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

No proactivity whatsoever. This is completely unacceptable with zero contingencies in place. What a sham...

 

[MadCardDisease]

I didn't see you complaining when they picked up his option.

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/washington-gets-his-bonus-206062.html?highlight=bonus

 

[Reddog]

I don't think they had any idea this was happening when Dansby left and not sure they would have paid him 24M but maybe the 14M guaranteed over two years would have worked if they didn't have to Pay D Wash for one of those years. I am sure they were only contemplating the domestic violence consequences.

 

[AzStevenCal]

No proactivity whatsoever. This is completely unacceptable with zero contingencies in place. What a sham...

How do you know there were no contingencies in place? Maybe they've scheduled an official panic party for this weekend?

It's hard to have contingencies for this kind of thing though. What would you suggest they should have done?

Steve

 

[jbjarko]

I don't see how the FO should be at fault for dwash being clean up until his bonus got paid and then becoming stupid and failing a piss test. Hindsight is 20/20...but I'm sure if they would have known he was gonna light up a drug test this off season would have gone slightly different.

 

[BigRedRage]

couldnt say it in the other threads?

we have minter, foote and alexander. They arent at dwashs football level but not many players are.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I didn't see you complaining when they picked up his option.

Had no clue this was coming at that time and, as a fan, that is not my job. Securing a great player is great idea, but when you have these looming issues you cannot, as a front office, get caught with your pants down.
A team has the resources to get the info before hand. They screwed up... period.

 

[BigRedRage]

Had no clue this was coming at that time and, as a fan, that is not my job. Securing a great player is great idea, but when you have these looming issues you cannot, as a front office, get caught with your pants down.
A team has the resources to get the info before hand. They screwed up... period.

what if he failed the test 3 weeks ago? Do you still hate the FO?

I dont blame anyone but washington.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Had no clue this was coming at that time and, as a fan, that is not my job. Securing a great player is great idea, but when you have these looming issues you cannot, as a front office, get caught with your pants down.
A team has the resources to get the info before hand. They screwed up... period.

What if he failed the test after they picked up his option? Should the team hire prophets to predict the future?

 

[TJ]

What if he failed the test after they picked up his option? Should the team hire prophets to predict the future?

Agree. I don;t think any organization, including the Browns or Raiders, would make a boneheaded move like picking up a $10mil player option knowing full well he'd be suspended for the season.

 

[NMCard]

I hope the GM and Head Coach can speak on moving forward after losing two of the best linebackers in the NFL this offseason.

 

[Goldfield]

DWash gets all the blame. Nobody expected a year suspension. Minter was drafted last year to help inside.

Losing Dansby hurts badly now.

 

[Azlen]

He doesn't get all the bonus money.

https://twitter.com/Jason_OTC/status/472441443873992704

Because Washington's suspension is drug related he will automatically forfeit all that bonus money I discussed earlier. #AZCardinals

 

[Solar7]

I don't blame the team for this - the blame is squarely on Washington's shoulders. I don't understand why players HAVE to smoke weed all the time... and there's plenty of players I know that do it, so I really wonder how much worse it has to be for you to get tagged for it.

I doubt the Cards picked up the option having any clue that he was going to get a one-year suspension for drug use.

 

[GimmedaBall]

Cards have been constantly moving the roster around since BASK have been in place. They could be fully alert to DW getting suspended but if there are no players out there worthy of bringing in to replace him---what should they have done?

Foote was probably the best they could do in FA. If they knew that DW was going out for the year, they could have traded up for Shazier or Mosely in the draft. I think they would have made that move if they had known the repeat drug violation situation with DW.

Let's see how they solve the problem now that the hammer has come down on DW. My guess is that they have the ILB's available rated as to their ability to fit in the Card's scheme and will somehow make it work.

 

[Mulli]

I call shenanigans on you "hating to say it."

 

[Finito]

We drafted the guy alot of people had as the best ILB in the draft last year. Minter was a two time captain at LSU had 130 tackles in 13 games. The number one target this year was Ryan Shazier and he wasn't on the board when we came up. We offered Dansby a legit offer but when Cleveland doubles it you can't match that.

Cardinals have done everything they could no one expected a year long suspension

 

[GatorAZ]

Title should be changed to "DWash really screwed up"...

 

[Totally_Red]

Title should be changed to "DWash really screwed up"...

+1

Blaming the Cardinals for giving the guy a second chance is ridiculous IMO. Very few NFL teams cut ties to a talented player without careful consideration. It has worked so far with Tyrann Mathieu. It hasn't with Daryl Washington.

That said, DWash is now out of second and third chances. I'd trade him for a conditional 7th round pick next offseason, that's how much confidence I've lost in him. He is a knucklehead.

 

[FrustratedFan04]

Had no clue this was coming at that time and, as a fan, that is not my job. Securing a great player is great idea, but when you have these looming issues you cannot, as a front office, get caught with your pants down.
A team has the resources to get the info before hand. They screwed up... period.

They were supposed to have contingencies in place just in case he was commiting additional felonies by possesing and using controled substances?

 

[Cheesebeef]

They were supposed to have contingencies in place just in case he was commiting additional felonies by possesing and using controled substances?

honestly...why not? They had a contingency plan in place last season when they brought in Dansby and knew another suspension of some sort was coming down the pike this season for a non-pot related incident. there was a lot of smoke (no pun intended) circling around Washington for people not to prepare adequately for another fire. our ILB depth is atrocious right now and our starters are a rookie and a journeyman.

 

[Solar7]

honestly...why not? They had a contingency plan in place last season when they brought in Dansby and knew another suspension of some sort was coming down the pike this season for a non-pot related incident. there was a lot of smoke (no pun intended) circling around Washington for people not to prepare adequately for another fire. our ILB depth is atrocious right now and our starters are a rookie and a journeyman.

Did that count as any more of a contingency plan than we may or may not have now? As I recall, DWash already had a suspension on the ready before we even negotiated with Dansby. Honestly, few of us could have anticipated Dansby having the season that he did, and finding impact players at this point in the free agency process is very difficult.

Besides, we already do have a contingency in place in Larry Foote. Unfortunately, Minter was our contingency for losing Dansby. You can't anticipate every player's stupid decisions, and when it's an elite player, it's almost impossible to replace that with someone that is available on the market.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Did that count as any more of a contingency plan than we may or may not have now? As I recall, DWash already had a suspension on the ready before we even negotiated with Dansby. Honestly, few of us could have anticipated Dansby having the season that he did, and finding impact players at this point in the free agency process is very difficult.

Besides, we already do have a contingency in place in Larry Foote. Unfortunately, Minter was our contingency for losing Dansby. You can't anticipate every player's stupid decisions, and when it's an elite player, it's almost impossible to replace that with someone that is available on the market.

yeah, but also cut our ILB depth before any of this happened. just saying, the idea that "no one could see this coming" doesn't jibe with me. a lot of us had a lot of concerns about DWash moving forward for a variety of reasons. My biggest one was that he was just an idiot who got in trouble with his lady AFTER he was already on thin ice and had already been suspended. that right there should have rung serious alarm bells as to how dependable this guy was going to be.

 

[Solar7]

yeah, but also cut our ILB depth before any of this happened. just saying, the idea that "no one could see this coming" doesn't jibe with me. a lot of us had a lot of concerns about DWash moving forward for a variety of reasons. My biggest one was that he was just an idiot who got in trouble with his lady AFTER he was already on thin ice and had already been suspended. that right there should have rung serious alarm bells as to how dependable this guy was going to be.

Yeah, but I don't think Brinkley was anything to write home about and was a poor pickup in the first place... I'd rather have Ernie Sims, really.

Agreed though, he's an idiot. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I think the organization was too, because he was saying all of the right things.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yeah, but I don't think Brinkley was anything to write home about and was a poor pickup in the first place... I'd rather have Ernie Sims, really.

Agreed though, he's an idiot. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I think the organization was too, because he was saying all of the right things.

yeah...this just sucks all the way around.

our defense was AWESOME last year, mostly IMO because we had two dynamos right in the middle of the field wreaking havoc. Bowles has his work cut out for him this year. Gotta hope Minter is a freaking stud.