I really hope Sarver and Kerr give this team one more year

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Bring Gentry back. Bring Shaq back. Bring Nash back. Bring Amare back. Bring everyone back.

This team would be very scary with Amare. They don't have that go to guy that you need right now and are still playing well.

Also, if this team could just learn how to box out and not give up so many offensive rebounds they would even be scarier.

I just hope Sarver doesn't lose to much money and is forced to go cheap because this team is fun to watch and all I ask if 1 more year!
 

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With amare, they become a really good offensive team with no defensive abilities. we know that doesn't win anything, so why try it again?

Insanity (noun): trying the same thing more than once and expecting different results.
 

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Technically, we JUST CAN NOT have everyone back. Both Barnes and Hill will be free agents while we are deadly locked above tax threshold.
 

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It's amazing what winning 6 games in a row will do to the posts on the board. Remember, we are only .500 and lost 6 before this run with the same team.

Maybe we have more of a sense of urgency, but it should have been there earlier.
 

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To be fair boise this team totally changed the way they played what 20 games ago maybe they are just finally getting all together on the same page as well as the bench guys. Its not like this team has been Gentry led all year, maybe just getting into shape and hitting their stride! Let me ask you this if they were to WIN OUT this season would you have a different opinion of what should be done in the offseason or are you with the people that want to blow it up?
 

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Insanity (noun): trying the same thing more than once and expecting different results.

That's not even close to the definition of insanity.

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That's not even close to the definition of insanity.

His is the internet sports board version of insanity.

I'm kinda torn about bringing that team back (Amare and LB). Even Gentry said this group has good chemistry and no one bickers about getting the ball more or minutes.

At least now everyone has more defined roles - when you need a clutch shot it's JRich or Grant. When you need rebounds/defense, it's Lou and Dudley. When you need to slow it down, it's Shaq.
 

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To be fair boise this team totally changed the way they played what 20 games ago maybe they are just finally getting all together on the same page as well as the bench guys. Its not like this team has been Gentry led all year, maybe just getting into shape and hitting their stride! Let me ask you this if they were to WIN OUT this season would you have a different opinion of what should be done in the offseason or are you with the people that want to blow it up?

I think the best option as far as winning goes would be to keep the team together. I'm not sure a trade or any drafting we could do would make the team better. I guess on paper the team looks even better with amare and barbosa playing, but where was this sense of urgency earlier on?

In some ways, it seems like the "one more year" idea has been floating around every offseason.

If they win out, it will be both exciting and frustrating. The team will have finally gelled, but it may be too late to make the playoffs.

I guess what frustrates me is the fact that the same team can be so night and day different.
 

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Playing undersized under DA was one thing, it didn't work.
Playing old and undersized is even worse.
It's broke....fix it.
This team has obviously responded well to Gentry but i'm withholding judgement on his return(next year) as well. The direction of the team hasn't been decided as yet.
I'm enjoying watching the Lou's,Dudley's and the Dragics develope but i want no part of Geriatric run n gun part deux if thats what we're going to get next year.
 

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to quote the gambler. . .

"you've got to know when to hold 'em,
know when to FOLD 'em,
know when to walk away,
know when to RUN"
 

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boise,
If they win out, it will be both exciting and frustrating. The team will have finally gelled, but it may be too late to make the playoffs.

As of right now, if this team wins out they have an excellent chance of making the playoffs. They'd end 51-31 which is .622 - higher than, currently, Dallas, Utah and Portland. They all have tough enough schedules that each is as likely to drop as rise. Utah in particular as they have road games against six WC playoff teams and all they'd have to do is lose half of them for us to catch them. By the way, should we win out we have the tie breaker against all three of them. I'd put our chances of making the playoffs at about 95%, with a good chance of finishing 7th. Winning out is the really hard part.
 

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No doubt if we win out we will be in imo! Just saying this team has kinda come together and gelled would like to see Gentry get a fair shake he seems to be doing a good job and using the bench like so many have called for years. To be fair we finally have some defenders and decent players to come off the bench.
 

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Is that just my wishful imagination or has Nash been giving up the ball in half court sets more and earlier than before? He has not been caught trying too much in recent games as evidenced in fewer TOs, aside from a stretch of about 5 min each game when Shaq sat when he'd try to push it with a negative net results. His 14 assts were mostly from fastbreaks and we won another time with him only having 4 assts. As a result, he seems to be fresher to defend in end game time. Great sign.

So, if Nash is finally seeing the light as to how to be most productive given his age and team composition, namely playing more like Stockton in his final years in the league, then I'd be all for giving the same team a chance next year.
 

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Although Stromile Swift weighs only 220 lbs. (there are 8 bulkier guys on the roster), he is 6'10".

Why are and Barnes and Hill, two Small Forwards who are 6'7"and 6'8", both starting?

After all these decades of seeing Suns Power Forwards getting beaten up, because they represented our only talented big man on the court . . .

We now have a situation of a 300 lb. legitimate Center being neutralized because he is now our only talented big man on the court.

When Amare went down, he should have been replaced by a legitimate Power Forward -- one who could shine on defense and rebounding,

You don't need twin towers. You don't need a Dave Robinson and Tim Duncan side-by-side. Just a legitimate Center and Power Forward.

And when an injury precludes that, you at least bring in a legitimate role-playing Power Forward.

The Suns are doomed to never having two big men on the court at the same time. Now in our fifth decade of existence, that's obvious. And sad.
 

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Although Stromile Swift weighs only 220 lbs. (there are 8 bulkier guys on the roster), he is 6'10".

Yes, but he sucks.

Why are and Barnes and Hill, two Small Forwards who are 6'7"and 6'8", both starting?

Because Hill is good and Barnes only sometimes sucks.

We now have a situation of a 300 lb. legitimate Center being neutralized because he is now our only talented big man on the court.

That would be true whether Swift was on the floor or not. Hold on, there's a guy at my local gym who's 6' 10" also -- do you want me to go tell him to join the Suns? Even better, I think Paul Shirley is available.

When Amare went down, he should have been replaced by a legitimate Power Forward -- one who could shine on defense and rebounding

Great idea. Who did you have in mind?

And when an injury precludes that, you at least bring in a legitimate role-playing Power Forward.

Great idea. Who did you have in mind?

The Suns are doomed to never having two big men on the court at the same time.

They had O'Neal and Stoudemire together for a year, both All-Stars. What more do you want?

As another example, didn't James Edwards and Maurice Lucas overlap for three seasons?

Now in our fifth decade of existence, that's obvious. And sad.

What's obvious and sad is that you continue to misinterpret the Suns' situation as a question of philosophy. They acquire big men all the time; it's just that the big men can't play. Hell, they blew their highest draft pick in years on Robin Lopez, so it's not as though they don't like bigs. If you want to criticize something, criticize their scouting.
 

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They had O'Neal and Stoudemire together for a year, both All-Stars. What more do you want?

As another example, didn't James Edwards and Maurice Lucas overlap for three seasons?
Four seasons out of 41. That leaves 37 seasons of wuss-ball.

Even the Suns site at http://www.nba.com/suns/history/Maurice_Lucas-26769-68.html says, "One of the NBA's greatest all-around power forwards, Maurice Lucas was acquired in 1982 from New York for forward "Truck" Robinson, and helped the Suns change their style from finesse to "muscle ball."

What more do I want? Even the Suns PR Dept. knows it -- "Muscle ball." Not two Small Forwards in the starting lineup.

P.S.: Here's what the AzCentral Suns site had to say about it after last night's loss to the Blazers.
The Suns have gotten by with Matt Barnes as a pseudo power forward, but LaMarcus Aldridge was too much. He had 29 points and 12 rebounds.
 
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Did I miss the part where you gave better suggestions for Stoudemire's injury replacement?
 

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Did I miss the part where you gave better suggestions for Stoudemire's injury replacement?

I heard Daniel Santiago was available...

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let's move on please....trade amare and shaq this summer and sign nash to an extension and let him retire here as long as he is willing to play through our rebuilding years.
 

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This team gets worse defensively every year. No thank you. The problem with this team is the foundation. Start with a defensive foundation and add offense later. This team will have an older Shaq, Older Nash and an Amare who may or may not show up on any given night.

How does giving this team one more year help defensively? Which is our biggest problem.
 

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I am not sure giving this exact team another year can even happen pretty sure it can't. However moves could be made like trading Amare maybe for a few defensive type role players to go along with what we have which has been looking pretty good. If the current team thats playing had all year under Gentry I am confident we would be 10 games better if not more and a top seed in the west! If Gentry continues to develop the bench so the starters can be fresh to close out games we can be very good. I would love to see this team get a fair shot with a coach thats not trying to change the whole system ala Porter that basically cost us a half of season of gelling the talent together that we have on the roster. The bench is playing great and thats without Barbs our bench could be pretty damn deep with him back. Though you would need to keep Grant and Barnes as well. Not sure what will happen should be interesting to say the least.
 

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