I think Newton will come out this year

[Pariah]

Lots of opinions here...

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/i-think-newton-will-come-out-this-year-159651.html

 

[Buckybird]

BUST!!!

 

[LarryStalling]

Mr B. will not take a player in the first round that is of questionable character. Just go back and look at first round picks the last one that i can think of that was not squeaky clean was Boston and that did not really become evident until after he was on the team.

With Newton u know what you are getting and I don't think that will fit the Cards designs for a first round pick.

 

[AsUdUdE]

didn't know Mallet was THAT good...

My problem with Mallett is he seems so slow nd cumsy any time he remotely tries to move even around the pocket...

 

[juza76]

He Is Real Great.. He Can Make Big Run And Has A Good Touch.can Make All The Throws With Good Balance E Accuracy..he Maybe Need One Year Of Devolopment But Is A Future Star....i Think He Can Stay Behind Mcnabb One Year And Then Be The Starter,come On Dont Tell ME We Have Already Skelton To Be Our Quarterback Of The Future,he Couldnt Beat Also Max Hall

 

[az jam]

Living in an SEC state our radio talk shows are all about Newton each and every day. No matter what happens he will finish the season with Auburn as the NCAA investigation normally takes months. The consensus seems to be that Newton may go in the second round and not the first pick in the first round. questions remains about his passing ability. If he is not the best QB in the SEC then I can say clearly Ryan Mallet is. All the former pros who broadcast our TV games of Arkansas say he has the best arm they have seen with a perfect over the top passing motion and at 6'7" can see clearly with rushers in front of his face. His stats are remarkable. He is a pure pocket passer and I think leads the nation with completions over 20-25 yards. He seems this year to have got his arm strength under control so that he is not throwing bullets on every pass. Throws lots of TDs.
I saw a chart on TV comparing Mallet with all the great NFL QBs out of the SEC at this point in their careers. He had them all beat. He may not win the Heisman but I bet he will be there watching and a finalist. Our last big game is against a tough LSU team that just beat then #1 Alabama. The game will be on national TV at LSU. I think Mallets performance in this game will have a lot to do with his race for the Heisman. I sure would like to have him on the Cards team. Of course I am biased but he is what he is and his numbers show it. You can be sure the pro scouts will be there as both LSU and Arkansas have other NFL prospects. Earlier I had posted that I thought Newton was the best QB in the conference. He is in college as his running is legendary but in the pros he will be expected to be a passer first. Mallet fits that requirement better than Newton. Newton might be better as a runner in the NFL. The guy can flat out run the ball and has the moves of a 200 lb tailback. Will be interesting to see where Newton is drafted and what the Pros think.

Thanks for the excellent analysis. If Luck comes out he will be the first qb and probably player taken but Mallet could fall to the Cards depending on where they pick. Kiper has Luck #1 on his big board and Mallet #8 at this time. Will have to watch Mallet whenever I have a chance to see him on TV.

 

[Tashunca]

Nothing earth shattering but Terrelle Pryor has said he will return to OSU next year. He needs to. Too bad he can't throw it better because his athletic ability and mental makeup are both top notch.

I hope he stays. I agree with Bill Parcells. He want's only SENIORS and at least 40 wins. We should try and get Seneca Wallace from the Browns since they're most likely go with their QBOF McCoy. You'll be suprised at Wallace's rating vs. other guys like Henne, Sanchez, McNabb etc.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I hope he stays. I agree with Bill Parcells. He want's only SENIORS and at least 40 wins. We should try and get Seneca Wallace from the Browns since they're most likely go with their QBOF McCoy. You'll be suprised at Wallace's rating vs. other guys like Henne, Sanchez, McNabb etc.

Is that a misprint because seniors AND 40 wins is kind of rare. That would mean you'd have to start as a freshman and win 10 games per year. That seems to be a limited field. I think Colt McCoy and David Greene are the only 2 to do that. Peyton only had 39. I could see why Parcell would like that though . Who wouldn't?

 

[JeffGollin]

I think this raises a separate but related issue -

To what degree will NFL offensive schemes follow the spread-formation pattern we're already seeing emerge in college football?

It's not just the Wildcat. It's the Vince Young/Michael Vick Titans and Eagles packages that feature QB's who can pass and run, lined up with a dangerous RB they can hand off or fake to.

I started off this year "adopting" a bunch of fun college teams to root for. (As it turns out, it's been a lot more fun than I originally imagined - Oregon, Boise, TCU, Stanford have all played exciting offensive football and have all done well; though unfortunately, my local fave (Rutgers) has not)).

In a sense, the college offensive product has spoiled me (I expect to see wide open football everywhere - including the pros). If you buy into this, your next logical leap would be the assumption that "If fans like what they're seeing at the college level, most if not all pros teams - who after all are in the "entertainment" business - will be likely to adopt direct-snap stuff as their base offense or at least include it as an important specialized package.

All of which is to wonder aloud - "If NFL teams move toward college offenses, won't that create a greater demand for slash-type QB's who line up deep and both run and pass?

And to take it one step farther - Given the projected durability-issues involved with having your star passer run the ball a lot - could some teams actually wind up with rosters that had 7 or 8 run-pass QB's and no RB's (or 8 pass-run RB's and no QB's)?

Bottom line: (setting aside his personal issues) there's no reason Newton couldn't be an NFL star if put in the right system. And there's no reason why others who have similar attributes as Newton couldn't star in the NFL as well.

 

[oaken1]

I think this raises a separate but related issue -

To what degree will NFL offensive schemes follow the spread-formation pattern we're already seeing emerge in college football?

It's not just the Wildcat. It's the Vince Young/Michael Vick Titans and Eagles packages that feature QB's who can pass and run, lined up with a dangerous RB they can hand off or fake to.

I started off this year "adopting" a bunch of fun college teams to root for. (As it turns out, it's been a lot more fun than I originally imagined - Oregon, Boise, TCU, Stanford have all played exciting offensive football and have all done well; though unfortunately, my local fave (Rutgers) has not)).

In a sense, the college offensive product has spoiled me (I expect to see wide open football everywhere - including the pros). If you buy into this, your next logical leap would be the assumption that "If fans like what they're seeing at the college level, most if not all pros teams - who after all are in the "entertainment" business - will be likely to adopt direct-snap stuff as their base offense or at least include it as an important specialized package.

All of which is to wonder aloud - "If NFL teams move toward college offenses, won't that create a greater demand for slash-type QB's who line up deep and both run and pass?

And to take it one step farther - Given the projected durability-issues involved with having your star passer run the ball a lot - could some teams actually wind up with rosters that had 7 or 8 run-pass QB's and no RB's (or 8 pass-run RB's and no QB's)?

Bottom line: (setting aside his personal issues) there's no reason Newton couldn't be an NFL star if put in the right system. And there's no reason why others who have similar attributes as Newton couldn't star in the NFL as well.

Newton can make all the throws,...there are several here who claim he cannot,...makes me wonder how many times they have seen him play. Living in Baton Rouge I see him pretty much every week.

Many forget, in the purest form of football, the QB is a runner,..thus, quarter "BACK".... the forward pass has grown vastly in popularity over the last few decades, and the league likes it because when done well it makes the game much more exciting. More scoring, while also adding more opportunities for turnovers. But a highly athletic QB with electric running ability makes the game every bit as exciting as a good passing game, and having the ability to make all of the throws makes that QB even more exciting to watch. I have never been a fan of running QB's, but Newton has my interest, the kid could be something very special.
I say we draft Newton, and sign McNabb to a three or four year deal....let D Mac start for a couple years, then back up the youngster for a couple years.....

 

[Buckybird]

IMO there are 2 reason why NFL teams don't run the spread offense we see in college:

1) The threat of injury-Generally the QB is one of the highest paid players on the roster & also the most important person on the field.

2) The NFL rules favor/dictate a passing game & generally the most effective teams that throw the ball, make the playoffs.

IMO Newton will bust in the NFL. Most of his throws are to wide open WR's & I have my doubts to how effective he will be in the NFL.

 

[Tashunca]

Newton can make all the throws,...there are several here who claim he cannot,...makes me wonder how many times they have seen him play. Living in Baton Rouge I see him pretty much every week.

Many forget, in the purest form of football, the QB is a runner,..thus, quarter "BACK".... the forward pass has grown vastly in popularity over the last few decades, and the league likes it because when done well it makes the game much more exciting. More scoring, while also adding more opportunities for turnovers. But a highly athletic QB with electric running ability makes the game every bit as exciting as a good passing game, and having the ability to make all of the throws makes that QB even more exciting to watch. I have never been a fan of running QB's, but Newton has my interest, the kid could be something very special.
I say we draft Newton, and sign McNabb to a three or four year deal....let D Mac start for a couple years, then back up the youngster for a couple years.....

The only way you get Cam is to have a WORST record than Buffalo, San Fran maybe even Broncos & Bengals.

 

[Buckybird]

The only way you get Cam is to have a WORST record than Buffalo, San Fran maybe even Broncos & Bengals.

If he does indeed come out after this year, IMO he doesnt see the 1st round.

 

[desertdawg]

If he does indeed come out after this year, IMO he doesnt see the 1st round.

He is better than every QB on our team right now

 

[Buckybird]

He is better than every QB on our team right now

So am I
Whats your point?

 

[desertdawg]

So am I
Whats your point?

My bad

 

[MrYeahBut]

The only way you get Cam is to have a WORST record than Buffalo, San Fran maybe even Broncos & Bengals.

That's in the bag at this point


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[oaken1]

So am I
Whats your point?

Declare for the draft.............

 

[Buckybird]

Declare for the draft.............

If I were 20 years younger...I had my day in the sun as a college player. Many injuries ago.

 

[DoTheDew]

The only way you get Cam is to have a WORST record than Buffalo, San Fran maybe even Broncos & Bengals.

Want to bet?

This guy isn't a top 5 pick, especially not now with all the allegations against him.

 

[desertdawg]

Want to bet?

This guy isn't a top 5 pick, especially not now with all the allegations against him.

Top 5 QBs all day, if 5 teams want a QB in the first round, he will be gone.

 

[DoTheDew]

Top 5 QBs all day, if 5 teams want a QB in the first round, he will be gone.

That I might agree with. But here's some trivia for you. How many times have 5 QBs gone in the first round in NFL history?

 

[desertdawg]

That I might agree with. But here's some trivia for you. How many times have 5 QBs gone in the first round in NFL history?

Im Mr.Lazy, I give up. Do tell.

 

[WarnerHOF]

That I might agree with. But here's some trivia for you. How many times have 5 QBs gone in the first round in NFL history?

This is the only one I can recall just going off by memory.

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[juza76]

he can be the new m.vick maybe