I think we need to go all out to get Andrew Luck no matter the cost.

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If Luck is as smart as everyone is saying he is (and I have no reason to doubt that), then he'll come out. His stock cannot get higher, it can only fall and that means millions of dollars out of his pocket.

He can always go back to school, he can only be the #1 pick in the NFL once.

That said, I don't think we're going to be drafting #1 overall, and I don't think anyone in that position isn't going to want him. So, it's a moot point for us. (I would however be a proponent of overpaying to move into that spot).
 

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Why, for no particular reason, am I starting to like Ryan Mallet :sad:. I still want no part of Scam Newton though.

Mallet is much more pro-ready than Newton. Newton will be a project. A concern that I have is the basic smarts to run a pro team. Newton scares me.
 

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Reading this and if Luck is as intelligent as they are saying then I agree he will stay in school at least one more year. There is no Luck in the Cards this year.

If Luck is the likely #1 pick in the draft it makes no sense what so ever for him to stay in school and pass up tens of millions of dollars to possible be injured. If you really want that degree bad enough you can still get it working part time. I think he would be almost a fool to do such a think. You cannot live on a degree but you sure can live on tens of millions of dollars. Mallet is coming out without a doubt and so is Newton. Both come from modest to poor families. For me it would be a tough decision as which to take and I see little hope we will get Luck. The difference between Luck and Mallet is not so great that you should give up a number of picks to get one over the other. No one is a sure thing and it will always be a gamble. Who would have guessed that Leinart would be such a failure. If you examined the program he came out of you would find he had perhaps the best OL in the nation and two of the best runners in the nation on his team. It is a lot easier being a great QB on a team like that so you would have to deduct some points from Leinart from the start. Obviously many teams did as he went #12 and that was for a reason. Some teams saw something they did not like. Then you draft a guy like Jim Hart from a small school who got to start because the starting QB got injured. Had that no happened who knows what might have happened to Jim Hart. None of us or the pros know for sure which of the top QB's are going to succeed. They refine it as much as they can but even a pat down or a full body scan cannot look into a guys head or heart.
 

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Let me clarify something right away..

If Jim Harbaugh leaves Stanford for the NFL, it will be for a Head Coaching job ONLY.

There's a zero percent chance he'd leave Stanford to become the Offensive Coordinator here or anywhere else for that matter. He'd be taking a major step backwards by doing that, and frankly Harbaugh is better off staying at Stanford and continuing to build that program into a Top 10 one than to go take a coordinator job in the NFL.

You want Harbaugh to come to Glendale, you're gonna have to offer him something higher up the ladder than coordinator.

Truth be told, I don't think Jim Harbaugh sticks around at Stanford this off-season. I'm almost certain the Vikings will make a run at him, and I really wouldn't be stunned if Cincinnati and Carolina get in on the chase, and could offer the possibility of some moderate control. With the possibility of him being able to get his college QB and a guy he groomed on the next level, this might be enticing to Harbaugh. Also, if Dallas hits the skids, I wouldn't be shocked if they at least offer Harbaugh an interview.

I also am convinced Michigan is going to move on from Rodriguez and will go hard and heavy after Harbaugh, and UM would be an extremely tough job for him to turn down. Minnesota already has let it be known they want him.

He'll have plenty of head coaching offers this off-season, trust me on that.

Regarding Luck, I've sort of softened on my stance that there's no chance he returns to Stanford, when probability of him being the top overall pick is so likely. I DO think there's an outside shot he could return for another season in Palo Alto. If Harbaugh returns there, Luck could want to return to try and make a run at a National Title, which could be realistic in 2011, and that may motivate him to go back for another run.

As is, I'd say his chances of returning to college are about 20 percent at this point. There's a chance, but I don't see those chances being very good.
 
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Speaking of QBs what is wrong with Seneca Wallace? He seems to put up decent numbers, better than what DA brought to Arizona for sure, but keeps being relegated to a backup.
 

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Let me clarify something right away..

If Jim Harbaugh leaves Stanford for the NFL, it will be for a Head Coaching job ONLY.

There's a zero percent chance he'd leave Stanford to become the Offensive Coordinator here or anywhere else for that matter. He'd be taking a major step backwards by doing that, and frankly Harbaugh is better off staying at Stanford and continuing to build that program into a Top 10 one than to go take a coordinator job in the NFL.

You want Harbaugh to come to Glendale, you're gonna have to offer him something higher up the ladder than coordinator.

Truth be told, I don't think Jim Harbaugh sticks around at Stanford this off-season. I'm almost certain the Vikings will make a run at him, and I really wouldn't be stunned if Cincinnati and Carolina get in on the chase, and could offer the possibility of some moderate control. With the possibility of him being able to get his college QB and a guy he groomed on the next level, this might be enticing to Harbaugh. Also, if Dallas hits the skids, I wouldn't be shocked if they at least offer Harbaugh an interview.

I also am convinced Michigan is going to move on from Rodriguez and will go hard and heavy after Harbaugh, and UM would be an extremely tough job for him to turn down. Minnesota already has let it be known they want him.

He'll have plenty of head coaching offers this off-season, trust me on that.

Regarding Luck, I've sort of softened on my stance that there's no chance he returns to Stanford, when probability of him being the top overall pick is so likely. I DO think there's an outside shot he could return for another season in Palo Alto. If Harbaugh returns there, Luck could want to return to try and make a run at a National Title, which could be realistic in 2011, and that may motivate him to go back for another run.

As is, I'd say his chances of returning to college are about 20 percent at this point. There's a chance, but I don't see those chances being very good.

I think Stanford has 10-11 seniors starting, I googled it but couldn't find it quickly but I'm pretty sure they said that in the last game. 3 seniors on the OL, senior TE, Whalen is a senior(Ryan), 2 seniors in the DB's, Marecic is a senior, at least one more on DL. So they'll be good next year if Luck stays but they might not be as good as this year.

I don't necessarily think Harbaugh will take an OC position either but when you look at the lack of success of college QB's going to the NFL recently the ones who have jumped straight from college to NFL Head Coach don't succeed. Carroll has done pretty well but he's been an NFL head coach before. Harbaugh was an assistant in the NFL but offensive assistant one year, QB coach next, and that was with the Raiders. So while he's been a head coach in college and proven his stuff, it is possible NFL teams would be leery.

I wouldn't, I've said all year if for some reason Whiz wasn't going to be our coach going forward, I'd go after Harbaugh.

I think Tedford is much more likely to take an OC job in the NFL than Harbaugh is, I could see him considering an OC/assistant head coach scenario where he was the heir apparent to the head coach but that's not
going to happen with the Cards.
 

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