Ideas about preseason. Your thoughts.

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Okay. The game has changed. Practice and ota’s almost seems like year round. Teams are now holding out their star players for 90% of the 4 games.

However.

First , and I’ve always thought this, the owners are stealing money from their season ticket holders. They are charging money for a product THEY KNOW is inferior. And you can see people don’t show up even though they paid for the ticket.

That being said, I think the preseason is important to rookies, second string players, new staffs and even referees. It also is important to employees who are selling beer, popcorn, parking attendants and such.

I would propose tickets should be offered to the public for a nominal price like $5 for general admission tickets and $5 for parking. It would give many people who could never afford an nfl game experience. Call it an exhibition. Imagine being able to bring your 2 or 3 kids to the stadium for less than $50 even if you bought them all hotdogs and a soda.

It would give the season ticket holder a break and perhaps fill the stadium. The parking, concession and souvenirs sales would triple. I’m not sure it would totally offset the revenue the owners would receive by currently “stealing” preseason ticket sales money but I’m sure they could write off the difference.

I am really against adding games to the regular season. I’m also against their Thursday night schedule system. If done correctly teams would have the previous Sunday off prior to a Thursday game. Quantity does not equate to quality.

Finally, many times we see sloppy play in early September. I imagine it would be worse without at least two preseason games. Rookies would be less prepared to play not to mention becoming a starter.

There are bigger problems in the world but I still need my Sunday’s in August for family time. I think there are plenty of people who’s “ summer “ commitments might actually prevent them from enjoying “real” August games.

Any thoughts?
 

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I always thought one of every teams HOME preseason games should be played at a different site, like a college area that doesn't have a local NFL team. The Cardinals could play in Tucson or New Mexico. Packers in Madison, Bears in Champaign, Colts at Notre Dame etc
 

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IMO they should drop to two PS games and take the regular season to 18 games.
keeps the same number of games but makes more of them meaningful.
 

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Okay. The game has changed. Practice and ota’s almost seems like year round. Teams are now holding out their star players for 90% of the 4 games.

However.

First , and I’ve always thought this, the owners are stealing money from their season ticket holders. They are charging money for a product THEY KNOW is inferior. And you can see people don’t show up even though they paid for the ticket.

That being said, I think the preseason is important to rookies, second string players, new staffs and even referees. It also is important to employees who are selling beer, popcorn, parking attendants and such.

I would propose tickets should be offered to the public for a nominal price like $5 for general admission tickets and $5 for parking. It would give many people who could never afford an nfl game experience. Call it an exhibition. Imagine being able to bring your 2 or 3 kids to the stadium for less than $50 even if you bought them all hotdogs and a soda.

It would give the season ticket holder a break and perhaps fill the stadium. The parking, concession and souvenirs sales would triple. I’m not sure it would totally offset the revenue the owners would receive by currently “stealing” preseason ticket sales money but I’m sure they could write off the difference.

I am really against adding games to the regular season. I’m also against their Thursday night schedule system. If done correctly teams would have the previous Sunday off prior to a Thursday game. Quantity does not equate to quality.

Finally, many times we see sloppy play in early September. I imagine it would be worse without at least two preseason games. Rookies would be less prepared to play not to mention becoming a starter.

There are bigger problems in the world but I still need my Sunday’s in August for family time. I think there are plenty of people who’s “ summer “ commitments might actually prevent them from enjoying “real” August games.

Any thoughts?

slan, I'm in almost complete agreement with you. I would venture to say that only 3 preseason games are necessary, with perhaps Zeno's idea of 1 of the three games being played at a "neutral" site.
 

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Go to 18 games. Make them all exhibition games.

Then run a 32-team tournament with the outcome of each game determined by one single play with the ball on the two yard line.

Each team gets one shot at scoring. Ties broken via "Rock...Paper...Scissors."

Or not. :- )
 

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Players can't make it through a 16 game season. 18 would be a total disaster.
and several players never make it through four pre season games either.
its the same number of games... the only huge difference is your stars and starters have to play more on the season. but it increases the product without having to increase the salary cap.
 

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If they decide to go to 18 games then they need to stop this stupid inactive list and allow all 53 players to be available on game day. Never could understand the inactive list.
 

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IMO they should drop to two PS games and take the regular season to 18 games.
keeps the same number of games but makes more of them meaningful.
Yea....no.

Just have joint practices with two different teams. We could have one with Denver & another with the Chargers.
 

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Okay. The game has changed. Practice and ota’s almost seems like year round. Teams are now holding out their star players for 90% of the 4 games.

However.

First , and I’ve always thought this, the owners are stealing money from their season ticket holders. They are charging money for a product THEY KNOW is inferior. And you can see people don’t show up even though they paid for the ticket.

That being said, I think the preseason is important to rookies, second string players, new staffs and even referees. It also is important to employees who are selling beer, popcorn, parking attendants and such.

I would propose tickets should be offered to the public for a nominal price like $5 for general admission tickets and $5 for parking. It would give many people who could never afford an nfl game experience. Call it an exhibition. Imagine being able to bring your 2 or 3 kids to the stadium for less than $50 even if you bought them all hotdogs and a soda.

It would give the season ticket holder a break and perhaps fill the stadium. The parking, concession and souvenirs sales would triple. I’m not sure it would totally offset the revenue the owners would receive by currently “stealing” preseason ticket sales money but I’m sure they could write off the difference.

I am really against adding games to the regular season. I’m also against their Thursday night schedule system. If done correctly teams would have the previous Sunday off prior to a Thursday game. Quantity does not equate to quality.

Finally, many times we see sloppy play in early September. I imagine it would be worse without at least two preseason games. Rookies would be less prepared to play not to mention becoming a starter.

There are bigger problems in the world but I still need my Sunday’s in August for family time. I think there are plenty of people who’s “ summer “ commitments might actually prevent them from enjoying “real” August games.

Any thoughts?

Season Ticket Holders (STH) are flat out robbed by being forced to buy 2 meaningless games...but wait they get more....they get to see how the people sitting next to them at the same game got their tickets for $5 per ticket.
I calculated as a STH (which I'm not anymore) I'd lose over $350 on the 2 preseason games (I had 2 tickets on the lower 45 and each ticket was $125). Every preseason game you can get the same tickets online for $5...yes only five bucks.

Starters are no longer even playing....and that's across the league....other than game 3 where they show a series or 2 (without game planing). There is no need for preseason games...nor tickets...they can schedule practices together with live tackling and that'll suffice the contact.

While the OP is against more reg. season games I am not. If the owners really want the revenue ...tv stations will pay more, they'll sell a lot more tickets, more parking, more fan gear and more food/drink sales.

I'd propose adding 2 games and ditching the entire preseason....just have the teams travel to practice sites...2 home and 1 or 2 away.

As someone who had season tickets for 23 years....I am VERY VERY happy I cut mine off. I'll buy tickets when I want to go and tickets on the day of the game are always WAY lower than what STH pay....unless it's Dallas, Green Bay or Pit.
 

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Ditch preseason and expand the number of teams getting into the playoffs. Add another week.
 

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This year I do feel like I was robbed of some money because both games were played on Thursdays and one at a ridiculously early time. There is no way in hell I am traversing rush hour traffic to watch starters for one series. Its insane that we have to buy these tickets. Moreover, I gave their new "system" a shot and priced my seats ridiculously low and didn't sell either game. And I mean ridiculously low.
 
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I always thought one of every teams HOME preseason games should be played at a different site, like a college area that doesn't have a local NFL team. The Cardinals could play in Tucson or New Mexico. Packers in Madison, Bears in Champaign, Colts at Notre Dame etc
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Do away with preseason completely.
Eliminating preseason games will cost the owners to much revenue. I really don’t understand how the can get away with charging full price for a product where star players don’t play. It’s like going to the theater, watching the previews and then some movie from 10 years ago.
 
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This year I do feel like I was robbed of some money because both games were played on Thursdays and one at a ridiculously early time. There is no way in hell I am traversing rush hour traffic to watch starters for one series. Its insane that we have to buy these tickets. Moreover, I gave their new "system" a shot and priced my seats ridiculously low and didn't sell either game. And I mean ridiculously low.
They shouldn’t even offer tickets to season ticket owners. Open the stadium to general admission for $5. Offer group sales to high school and local colleges. Fill the stadium and expose your product to people that may never have the chance to experience it.
 

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Eliminating preseason games will cost the owners to much revenue. I really don’t understand how the can get away with charging full price for a product where star players don’t play. It’s like going to the theater, watching the previews and then some movie from 10 years ago.
They can charge it because people pay it, it changes when they start losing money then they change their minds, until then they'll keep charging for meaningless games
 

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I like an 18 game schedule with an extra bye week. Super Sunday is moved to President's Day Weekend so the vast majority have Monday off.

Thursday Night Football doesn't start until week 4 and ends on week 14. No team can appear on Thursday more than once to limit shortened weeks. Any team playing Thursday must be coming off of a bye week.

Teams playing overseas will have a bye week after.
 

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Week 1 is the first game. No preseason at all.

You want to really effect change? Nobody...and I mean nobody shows up for the games and the owners will finally give up metaphorically raping season ticket holders.
 

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This year I do feel like I was robbed of some money because both games were played on Thursdays and one at a ridiculously early time. There is no way in hell I am traversing rush hour traffic to watch starters for one series. Its insane that we have to buy these tickets. Moreover, I gave their new "system" a shot and priced my seats ridiculously low and didn't sell either game. And I mean ridiculously low.
I found the trick to be selling them on StubHub rather then the ticket exchange. I was able to sell the Raiders tix for about $25 each on there, making me $20 ea. I had my 9 (lower endzone) listed on ticket exchange originally and one sold, then put them on StubHub and they all sold within a day. I think fees the buyer pays are less there.
 

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Can't completely eliminate it. Cut it to 3 preseason games & see how that effects the quality of play come week 1 of the regular season.
 

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Get rid of preseason. It is out dated.
Totally agree, but the only way they could pull that off is to expand the rosters during the regular season eliminating the competition aspect of the preseason...Expanded rosters and a larger active roster on game day is in everyone's best interest.
 
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