If the Baltimore Trade Goes Through: What Would You Do?

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The Cardinals would possess the #26, #31, #63, #88, #95, #131, #167, #204, # 240, #254 picks in the 2009 Draft.

The guidelines are: You must go to www.drafttec.com and you can only take a player that is on the board at each spot in their 7 Round Mock.

Here's what I would do, with explanations:

#26: Chris Wells, RB, Ohio St. Moreno is off the board. Wells is too talented to pass up. After calling Wells to congratulate him, we call Edge and wish him happy trails in his Lambourgini.

#31: Connor Barwin, OLB34, Cincinnati. I love this guy. I think he's the DRC (special athlete) of this draft. Brings edge speed, tackling ferocity and tenacity.

#63: James Casey, TE, Rice. Best hands in the draft, period. Can take over as the Cardinals' best over the middle threat now that Q is a Raven.

#88: Cody Brown, OLB34, Connecticut. Surprised to see him on the board, and in many ways is a great compliment to Barwin. I eventually see Brown on the strong side and Barwin on the weak side.

#95: Pat White, QB, West Virginia. This Wildcat will be Whiz's pet project...will add to Warner's longevity by taking a series in each half and some snaps in the red zone. And, get this. I think he can be the kickoff returner, to boot. Such a fine athlete and would become an instant fan favorite. And who knows? Maybe in three years he could develop as an everydown QB.

#131: Scott McKillop, ILB34, Pittsburgh. Much need tackler inside to back up Hayes and Dansby. Should be very good on STs too. Will be a very good starter in a year or two.

#167: Brandon Underwood, FS/CB, Cincinnati. This Ohio St. transfer has the size and speed to be a major factor in nickel and dime packages, as an over the top FS or as a cover CB.

#204: Brennan Marion, WR, Tulsa. Injured his knee at the end of his second stellar season at Tulsa where he averaged over 1,000 yards, over 20 ypc, and over 10 TDs a year.

#240: Ray Feinga, G, BYU. Very good drive blocker. Needs to improve pass protection skills...but will have RG to get him there.

#254: Tiquan Underwood, WR, Rutgers. Mike McNulty brought him along nicely at Rutgers where he was a star in his last two games including a Bowl win. Is PS bound but could move up in a year or two.

Your turn!
 
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OK Mitch you got me. Sign me up for Wells, Barwin, Casey and Brown. I also do like White as a project that could really become like Randal El instead of a QB but he has so much talent that he can be used in many different ways. I think you do have to take him in the bottom of the third (as your did) as he would be gone by our pick in the 4th. I also do like McKillops, beyond that it's a crap shoot.

My only recommendation is to try to get in a center like A.Q Shipley from Penn State if he falls.

Bottom line is this really would make the Boldin trade worthwhile if these players are there. :thumbup:
 

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The Cardinals would possess the #26, #31, #63, #88, #95, #131, #167, #204, # 240, #254 picks in the 2009 Draft.

The guidelines are: You must go to www.drafttec.com and you can only take a player that is on the board at each spot in their 7 Round Mock.

Here's what I would do, with explanations:

#26: Chris Wells, RB, Ohio St. Moreno is off the board. Wells is too talented to pass up. After calling Wells to congratulate him, we call Edge and wish him happy trails in his Lambourgini.

#31: Connor Barwin, OLB34, Cincinnati. I love this guy. I think he's the DRC (special athlete) of this draft. Brings edge speed, tackling ferocity and tenacity.

#63: James Casey, TE, Rice. Best hands in the draft, period. Can take over as the Cardinals' best over the middle threat now that Q is a Raven.

#88: Cody Brown, OLB34, Connecticut. Surprised to see him on the board, and in many ways is a great compliment to Barwin. I eventually see Brown on the strong side and Barwin on the weak side.

#95: Pat White, QB, West Virginia. This Wildcat will be Whiz's pet project...will add to Warner's longevity by taking a series in each half and some snaps in the red zone. And, get this. I think he can be the kickoff returner, to boot. Such a fine athlete and would become an instant fan favorite. And who knows? Maybe in three years he could develop as an everydown QB.

#131: Scott McKillop, ILB34, Pittsburgh. Much need tackler inside to back up Hayes and Dansby. Should be very good on STs too. Will be a very good starter in a year or two.

#167: Brandon Underwood, FS/CB, Cincinnati. This Ohio St. transfer has the size and speed to be a major factor in nickel and dime packages, as an over the top FS or as a cover CB.

#204: Brennan Marion, WR, Tulsa. Injured his knee at the end of his second stellar season at Tulsa where he averaged over 1,000 yards, over 20 ypc, and over 10 TDs a year.

#240: Ray Feinga, G, BYU. Very good drive blocker. Needs to improve pass protection skills...but will have RG to get him there.

#254: Tiquan Underwood, WR, Rutgers. Mike McNulty brought him along nicely at Rutgers where he was a star in his last two games including a Bowl win. Is PS bound but could move up in a year or two.

Your turn!

Love the draft all the way through. The Pat White pick is questionable, but the risk/reward ratio is so good that he has to be considered there on potential alone. Besides, after the 2nd round it gets to be a real crap-shoot anyways. I don't know if we will be able to get all the players you listed at the spot you had them, but if we did I would give that draft an A+ and pick us to dominate the NFC West for at least the next 5 years.
 

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First i would pee. then i would be sad we lost Boldin, but excited with allthe new talent!
 

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26 Beanie Wells RB
31 Larry English OLB
63 Max Unger C
88 Connor Barwin OLB
95 Sean Smith S
131 Jasper Brinkley ILB
167 Roy Miller NT
204 Quan Cosby WR
240 Best available KR
267 Best available OL
 

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I would my shoe through a TV if we drafted Pat White, but decent.
 

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Mitch....if Pat White is the Qb of the future what becomes of Lienart, do we trade him? he wants to be here.
 

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I'd be all for that, Mitch, as long as it's English and not Barwin. Barwin is such a major reach in the late 1st. Experts have been saying he's 2-3 years from contributing on defense, which is where we'd play him. No thanks. English is ready now.
 

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26 Beanie Wells RB
31 Larry English OLB
63 Max Unger C
88 Connor Barwin OLB
95 Sean Smith S
131 Jasper Brinkley ILB
167 Roy Miller NT
204 Quan Cosby WR
240 Best available KR
267 Best available OL

Those are my top three is we get the Ravens pick. 3 needs filled just like that.
 

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And who would be our WR's? Wouldn't we be weakening K Warner and the Passing game? Too much conjecture that our running game would be better. With a rookies, who knows? We have a Super Bowl window. But, it closes a little without Boldin.
 

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This is more what I think the Cards will do than what I would do....

1. RB Donald Brown, UConn*
1. DE Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech
2. DE Lawrence Sidbury, Richmond
3. TE Chase Coffman, Missouri
3. OG Kraig Urbik, Wisconsin
4. LB Zack Follett, Cal
5. CB Morgan Trent, Michigan
6. RB Ian Johnson, Boise State
7. CB Bruce Johnson, Miami
7. DE Stryker Sulak, Missouri

* = only if Moreno is off the board
 

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26. B.Wells rb
31. C.Sintim lb
63. L.Murphy wr
88. A.Caldwell c
95. R.Quinn te
131.J.Brinkley lb
167.B.Underwood fs/cb
204.P.Hunt de
240.R.Brewster ot
254.J.Westerman de
 

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1. RB Chris Wellls
1. OLB Larry English
2. C Eric Wood
3. OLB Cody Brown
3. OT Troy Kropog
4. FS Sean Smith
5. DT Roy Miller
6. RB Ian Johnson
7. OG Andy Kemp
7. CB Bruce Johnson
 

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The Cardinals would possess the #26, #31, #63, #88, #95, #131, #167, #204, # 240, #254 picks in the 2009 Draft.

The guidelines are: You must go to www.drafttec.com and you can only take a player that is on the board at each spot in their 7 Round Mock.

Here's what I would do, with explanations:

#26: Chris Wells, RB, Ohio St. Moreno is off the board. Wells is too talented to pass up. After calling Wells to congratulate him, we call Edge and wish him happy trails in his Lambourgini.

#31: Connor Barwin, OLB34, Cincinnati. I love this guy. I think he's the DRC (special athlete) of this draft. Brings edge speed, tackling ferocity and tenacity.

#63: James Casey, TE, Rice. Best hands in the draft, period. Can take over as the Cardinals' best over the middle threat now that Q is a Raven.

#88: Cody Brown, OLB34, Connecticut. Surprised to see him on the board, and in many ways is a great compliment to Barwin. I eventually see Brown on the strong side and Barwin on the weak side.

#95: Pat White, QB, West Virginia. This Wildcat will be Whiz's pet project...will add to Warner's longevity by taking a series in each half and some snaps in the red zone. And, get this. I think he can be the kickoff returner, to boot. Such a fine athlete and would become an instant fan favorite. And who knows? Maybe in three years he could develop as an everydown QB.

#131: Scott McKillop, ILB34, Pittsburgh. Much need tackler inside to back up Hayes and Dansby. Should be very good on STs too. Will be a very good starter in a year or two.

#167: Brandon Underwood, FS/CB, Cincinnati. This Ohio St. transfer has the size and speed to be a major factor in nickel and dime packages, as an over the top FS or as a cover CB.

#204: Brennan Marion, WR, Tulsa. Injured his knee at the end of his second stellar season at Tulsa where he averaged over 1,000 yards, over 20 ypc, and over 10 TDs a year.

#240: Ray Feinga, G, BYU. Very good drive blocker. Needs to improve pass protection skills...but will have RG to get him there.

#254: Tiquan Underwood, WR, Rutgers. Mike McNulty brought him along nicely at Rutgers where he was a star in his last two games including a Bowl win. Is PS bound but could move up in a year or two.

Your turn!
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This is more what I think the Cards will do than what I would do....

1. RB Donald Brown, UConn*
1. DE Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech
2. DE Lawrence Sidbury, Richmond
3. TE Chase Coffman, Missouri
3. OG Kraig Urbik, Wisconsin
4. LB Zack Follett, Cal
5. CB Morgan Trent, Michigan
6. RB Ian Johnson, Boise State
7. CB Bruce Johnson, Miami
7. DE Stryker Sulak, Missouri

* = only if Moreno is off the board
:yeahthat:;)
A bit of a combo of these two.

26 DE Robert Ayers, Tennessee
31 RB Donald Brown, Connecticut
63 OLB Connor Barwin, Cincinnati
88 CB Kevin Barnes, Maryland
95 QB Pat White, West Virginia
131 ILB Scott McKillop, Pittsburgh
167 TE Anthony Hill, North Carolina State
204 RB Jeramiah Johnson, Oregon
240 OLB Henry Melton, Texas
254 OG Rey Fienga, BYU

Just for fun tho. :p

26 DE Robert Ayers, Tennessee
31 OLB Larry English, Northern Illinois
63 RB Shonn Greene, Iowa
88 CB Kevin Barnes, Maryland
95 QB Pat White, West Virginia
131 ILB Scott McKillop, Pittsburgh
167 OC Cecil Newton, Tennessee State
204 RB Jeramiah Johnson, Oregon
240 OLB Henry Melton, Texas
254 OG Rey Fienga, BYU
 

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the only way the Q trade works for our franchise is if we pick up a pro bowl type player simple as. For me it has to lead to one of the top two backs getting drafted to without this being seen as a step back for our franchise.
 

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I'd be all for that, Mitch, as long as it's English and not Barwin. Barwin is such a major reach in the late 1st. Experts have been saying he's 2-3 years from contributing on defense, which is where we'd play him. No thanks. English is ready now.

:thumbup:
 

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meh would be disapointed cause i'm a big boldin fan and he brings every game on the field, but teams and players always move on and we have decent enough wr's to make up for him. But I would defintally love Knowshown Moreno or Beanie Wells both are great rb's and would be sick in our system :).
 

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If the Baltimore Trade Goes Through: What Would You Do?
First and foremost - throw up.

Next - immerse myself in MLB and the Stanley Cup

Then pay lip service to the NFL Draft (because of my obligation to keep the BRS current). But - unless the deal was a whole lot sweeter than a #26 and #88 - probably with a lot less enthusiasm.

Sometime after that - depending on who we drafted and how well we were doing - I might work my way out of the doldrums, but can't be sure how long it would take.

Incidently (and with all due respect) I just reviewed everyone's updated mocks after the conjectured trade and immediately tossed my cookies.

Bottom Line - I don't want to "win the draft"/I want to win the Super Bowl.
 

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If the Baltimore Trade Goes Through: What Would You Do?
First and foremost - throw up.

Next - immerse myself in MLB and the Stanley Cup

Then pay lip service to the NFL Draft (because of my obligation to keep the BRS current). But - unless the deal was a whole lot sweeter than a #26 and #88 - probably with a lot less enthusiasm.

Sometime after that - depending on who we drafted and how well we were doing - I might work my way out of the doldrums, but can't be sure how long it would take.

Incidently (and with all due respect) I just reviewed everyone's updated mocks after the conjectured trade and immediately tossed my cookies.

Bottom Line - I don't want to "win the draft"/I want to win the Super Bowl.

My question to all of this is why? Boldin has hinted he wants a considerable raise, something we can afford. We have also in the past seen the Card's just let guys walk with no compensation, only to be crucified by fans and media. In a perfect world, we keep Q and live happily ever after, but I'm not ready to lose Dansby, or Wilson, or Dockett in order to keep him, especially considering how we've done without him in the line up recently. Sure I'd love to keep him, or get multiple 1st and 2nd rd picks and a player or two, but that just isn't reasonable.

I'm sure the Cards will take the Ravens offer and just seeing if they can start a bidding war.
 

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My question to all of this is why? Boldin has hinted he wants a considerable raise, something we can afford. We have also in the past seen the Card's just let guys walk with no compensation, only to be crucified by fans and media. In a perfect world, we keep Q and live happily ever after, but I'm not ready to lose Dansby, or Wilson, or Dockett in order to keep him, especially considering how we've done without him in the line up recently. Sure I'd love to keep him, or get multiple 1st and 2nd rd picks and a player or two, but that just isn't reasonable.

I'm sure the Cards will take the Ravens offer and just seeing if they can start a bidding war.


If they are able to start a bidding war, I would like to see Mark Clayton thrown into the mix. A 1st, 3rd, and Clayton for Boldin seems plausible to me.
 

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First thing I would do would be to try and trade as many of those picks as possible for picks in the 2010 and 2011 drafts.

Why would we want that many this year when our roster is so strong.

Heck we could conceivably start 19 of the 22 projected starters for 2009 for the next 5 years. The right side of the oline and TE for another 10. We have 9 guys that could still be starting for the Cards in 2016.

We'll have a much bigger need for 2nd and 3rd year players in 2012,13,& 14.
 

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