If The Cardinals Want to Hire the HC In House...

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How about Adrian Wilson?

Think about this---no one means more to Steve Keim than Adrian Wilson. Keim would go the extra mile to give AW everything he needs to be successful. Wilson would get these players jacked. He would be our version of Mike Tomlin, only better.

HC: Adrian Wilson
OC: Mike Shula
DC: Chuck Pagano
ST: Joe Marciano
 

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that would fit the "Young" criteria...

nothing else really...

Mickey down at Jamba Juice is young too...
and he has 3 years coaching experience as OC for the East Valley Titans
dude also owns the entire "Personal Power" system by Tony Robbins

he is worth a look
 

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How about Adrian Wilson?

Think about this---no one means more to Steve Keim than Adrian Wilson. Keim would go the extra mile to give AW everything he needs to be successful. Wilson would get these players jacked. He would be our version of Mike Tomlin, only better.

HC: Adrian Wilson
OC: Mike Shula
DC: Chuck Pagano
ST: Joe Marciano

Are you high?
 

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Adrian Wilson has no history of being a coach. What makes you think he’d be a good coach? What makes you think we’d be able to get those coordinators to come here knowing they’d be coaching under someone that is under qualified for the job. You don’t like Bettcher, but he’s far and above more qualified to be the HC before AW.
 

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Leftwich makes more sense than AW, and even Leftwich doesn't make much sense.
 

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Great probably going to be bettecher than.... if that's the case not to excited
 
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Adrian Wilson has no history of being a coach. What makes you think he’d be a good coach? What makes you think we’d be able to get those coordinators to come here knowing they’d be coaching under someone that is under qualified for the job. You don’t like Bettcher, but he’s far and above more qualified to be the HC before AW.

Adrian Wilson bleeds Cardinal red. His cred with the players is through the roof. His passion for the game is non pareil.

I believe that making AW the HC would fire up this organization like never before. With veteran coordinators, AW would be able to get in every player's ear and cultivate the proper mindset.

Bettcher never played in the NFL. Wilson has way more cred. If you were a player, who would you want to listen to at half-time of a big game?

Go back and listen to this man...fast forward to the 3:14 mark.

Listen to AW at the 4:40 mark...what his life goal has always been.

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...if Adrian Wilson is a candidate for HC, I'm trying to figure out how I might qualify as well. I'm even younger than AW, ie more energy. I'm known among my Madden buddies as a very creative play caller. And Keim and I go way back...he cut me off on the freeway once, so he owes me.

I'll get those players jacked to play...where do I apply?

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I'm so unexcited/meh about any of the candidates, at least this would move the needle for me.
 

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I'm not sure I'm on board yet with AW being one of our scouts.

To make him HC would be to revisit the days of Larry Wilson as GM. Both great players. Not sure either is/was ever prepared for those roles.

Personally, I won't flip out if Betcher gets the HC gig, so long as he replaces Amos and Goodwin, and brings in Pagano as DC. I like the D as it stands and like keeping things consistent there.

I don't think I stated it elsewhere, but my preferences are:

1. Wilks
2. Shurmur
3. Betcher

I'd be intrigued with Munchak as an OC for any of the above 3.

Go Cards!!!
 

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Adrian Wilson bleeds Cardinal red. His cred with the players is through the roof. His passion for the game is non pareil.

I believe that making AW the HC would fire up this organization like never before. With veteran coordinators, AW would be able to get in every player's ear and cultivate the proper mindset.

Bettcher never played in the NFL. Wilson has way more cred. If you were a player, who would you want to listen to at half-time of a big game?

Go back and listen to this man...fast forward to the 3:14 mark.

Listen to AW at the 4:40 mark...what his life goal has always been.

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I agree with a lot of what you said, but i don’t believe he’ll be able to get coordinators to buy into coaching under someone who’s never coached before. Bettcher never played in the nfl, but neither did Belichick, Zimmer, and Arians to name a few. You don’t have to play to know the game
 
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I agree with a lot of what you said, but i don’t believe he’ll be able to get coordinators to buy into coaching under someone who’s never coached before. Bettcher never played in the nfl, but neither did Belichick, Zimmer, and Arians to name a few. You don’t have to play to know the game

I would think that coordinators would love to work for Adrian Wilson because he would give them the autonomy they crave. Wilson's chief role as the HC would be to create the proper culture through motivation, accountability and hard work. Some of the best HCs are master delegators. One thing that impressed me a great deal about Sean McVay this year is that he asked STC John Fassel to advise him on in-game decisions. McVay would make the final call, but McVay always wanted to hear Fassel's take first.

You're 100% correct. Many of the best coaches never played in the NFL. But so much of today's game in the NFL today is predicated on motivating the players. I think the Cardinals have a motivation problem. It seemed like every other game, the players from the week before didn't show up. Adrian Wilson showed up every game he played, even with one arm hanging by a thread. This kind of motivation has to start somewhere and AW could bring it, imo, as well as anyone.

I have always thought that there were two recent Cardinals I would love to see as HC one day: Adrian Wilson and Kurt Warner. Two of the most competitive and dedicated players ever to don Cardinal red.
 

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@Mitch

I like thinking outside the box but it would be a bit of a gamble though... like everything in life.

Like the logic.
 

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Adrian Wilson has many of the same qualities, passion, and attributes of Chris Spielman here in Columbus and who, at one time, people were wanting to be Jim Tressel's successor at Ohio State even though he had zero coaching experience. Obviously, that didn't happen.

Spielman finally did get a HC gig for the local arena team, The Columbus Destroyers. He won 2 games and didn't last past his 1st year. Point being, there's a lot more to being a HC. I'd put hiring Wilson in the same mold as hiring Spielman or SF when they hired Singletary although, at least, Singletary had been coaching in the league.
 
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@Mitch

I like thinking outside the box but it would be a bit of a gamble though... like everything in life.

Like the logic.

Right, it would be a gamble. The key would be surrounding AW with veteran coordinators who would thrive on the autonomy that AW would give them. But the bond between GM and HC would never be stronger.

But here is another perspective that makes a great deal of sense---AW has been a scout for the past couple of years---we need coaches who are going to develop and build up the talent, not waste it and tear it down. There needs to be a much stronger commitment to this and AW would be a great overseer in this regard. Plus, with the bond that he and Steve Keim has there would be a stronger sense of urgency to build up the talent, as they would be mutually committed to each draft pick and every free agent signing.
 

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I would think that coordinators would love to work for Adrian Wilson because he would give them the autonomy they crave. Wilson's chief role as the HC would be to create the proper culture through motivation, accountability and hard work. Some of the best HCs are master delegators. One thing that impressed me a great deal about Sean McVay this year is that he asked STC John Fassel to advise him on in-game decisions. McVay would make the final call, but McVay always wanted to hear Fassel's take first.

You're 100% correct. Many of the best coaches never played in the NFL. But so much of today's game in the NFL today is predicated on motivating the players. I think the Cardinals have a motivation problem. It seemed like every other game, the players from the week before didn't show up. Adrian Wilson showed up every game he played, even with one arm hanging by a thread. This kind of motivation has to start somewhere and AW could bring it, imo, as well as anyone.

I have always thought that there were two recent Cardinals I would love to see as HC one day: Adrian Wilson and Kurt Warner. Two of the most competitive and dedicated players ever to don Cardinal red.

I think we have a motivation problem as well. I really want a mean OL like a Richie Incognito and a fiery hard hitting safety like AW was throughout his career. I think it’s more on the players than coaching. I don’t see a lot of coaches as motivators in the nfl. I see more motivators on the field being fired up after a pancake or a huge hit for a loss. Hard to find because players are too busy celebrating their play rather than having everyone else feed off the energy. Seeing AW on the sidelines again would be awesome, but not as the HC. Start him out as a defensive back coach to help our 2 safeties (HB and Budda) when blitzing to help time it up better.
 

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I would think that coordinators would love to work for Adrian Wilson because he would give them the autonomy they crave. Wilson's chief role as the HC would be to create the proper culture through motivation, accountability and hard work. Some of the best HCs are master delegators. One thing that impressed me a great deal about Sean McVay this year is that he asked STC John Fassel to advise him on in-game decisions. McVay would make the final call, but McVay always wanted to hear Fassel's take first.

You're 100% correct. Many of the best coaches never played in the NFL. But so much of today's game in the NFL today is predicated on motivating the players. I think the Cardinals have a motivation problem. It seemed like every other game, the players from the week before didn't show up. Adrian Wilson showed up every game he played, even with one arm hanging by a thread. This kind of motivation has to start somewhere and AW could bring it, imo, as well as anyone.

I have always thought that there were two recent Cardinals I would love to see as HC one day: Adrian Wilson and Kurt Warner. Two of the most competitive and dedicated players ever to don Cardinal red.
Those who can: DO..... Those who can't: Teach

which former "Great" player has made a good coach in the NFL?

Lots of former, "mediocre" players have made good coaches,... lots of "Backup" QB's and such

Joe Green, not so good... Mike Singletary... Failure

Harbaugh might be the "Best" player to be a good HC... and he wasnt that great as a player..averaged 12TD's and 11INT's per season


John Madden??

Gary Kubiak was a decent coach...and a backup level QB...

Dungy was a good coach... mediocre player

Del Rio was a good player...and so far a mediocre coach... I think better than he gets credit for,.. but the stats are what they are.

I'm an AW fan as much as anyone else... but we need more than Rah-Rah at HC and I cant see any reason to think AW brings anything more than that...

hell,...he is a scout now... which players has he scouted that took off...who were not already nationally known? Has he picked out some mystery 6th round pick nobody else ever heard of that became a pro bowler?

Hiring him as a HC would be putting him in position to fail... a position in which he cannot contribute to the team winning and his attempts to do so would likely cause more harm than good...
even the fact that he broke into the NFL ranks as a scout tells you he aint a coach... scouts move up to office positions... not coaching...

if he wanted to coach,...we could have had him in as a DB coach.... but he ended up a scout
 

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Right, it would be a gamble. The key would be surrounding AW with veteran coordinators who would thrive on the autonomy that AW would give them. But the bond between GM and HC would never be stronger.

But here is another perspective that makes a great deal of sense---AW has been a scout for the past couple of years---we need coaches who are going to develop and build up the talent, not waste it and tear it down. There needs to be a much stronger commitment to this and AW would be a great overseer in this regard. Plus, with the bond that he and Steve Keim has there would be a stronger sense of urgency to build up the talent, as they would be mutually committed to each draft pick and every free agent signing.

All good points. I guess I'm drawn into the lure of wanting someone with coaching experience.

Agree the NFL is becoming a players league like the NBA.
 
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