I'll personally come on here and eat crow....

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If the Cardinals select ANY of the following players with their 5th pick..


Calvin Johnson
Adrian Peterson
Either of the two QBs

Unlike last year, where the Cardinals could afford to be adventerous with their 10th pick, and hit the jackpot when Leinart fell in to their laps, this season they don't have that luxury. There's far too many holes for this squad to fill, and in all honesty, if Thomas is gone and they aren't sold on Branch, Adams or Anderson (and none of the Cornerbacks or Safeties make a jump up in to the top 5 after the Combines) I see them trading down first.

Honestly, this team has two of the best WRs in the NFL now on the same roster. Drafting Calvin Johnson would be a humongous waste. Despite Skorp's wishes, Leinart is the QB of this team for now and the immediate future.. Lastly, the Cards have too much money invested in James to use a first round pick on Peterson. I've heard all names mentioned, and as I said, I'd be willing to bet anything that none of these three will be taken.

I know a LOT of people will make the comment on how Leinart was a "luxury" last season, but was he? In 20 years as a franchise, the Cardinals only once could boast of having "stability" or some kind of QB of the Future (Plummer), and as much as I like Kurt Warner personally, anyone who thought he was anything more than a 2-3 year stopgap was far more optimistic than me. Also, keep in mind, the team was opening a new stadium, and the name appeal of Matt Leinart added to the growth of "new fans".

This year, the team really needs to fix it's core. The Oline problems are and have been well documented. The secondary, with the exception of Adrian Wilson, is a mess.. At LB, Dansby and Hayes appear to be set, however I don't suppose it would kill Arizona to pick up another OLB. At DE, I like Berry and Okeafor however they sure wouldn't be wasting a pick if they took either Jamaal Anderson or Gaines Adams.

My point here-- Arizona has multiple different directions they could wind up taking, and have other scenarios and holes they NEED to fill or couldn't hurt to fill. Picking one of the afforementioned players isn't something that I see as being in the cards (no pun intended).
 
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If the Cardinals select ANY of the following players with their 5th pick..


Either of the two QBs

I don't think you'll have to worry about us selecting any of them (in exception of maybe Peterson) but you definitely don't have to worry about Russell or Quinn. If the Cards draft either of the QB's (unless of course we trade the pick), I'll pay for all of ASFN's season tickets.
 
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I don't think you'll have to worry about us selecting any of them (in exception of maybe Peterson) but you definitely don't have to worry about Russell or Quinn. If the Cards draft either of the QB's (unless of course we trade the pick), I'll pay for all of ASFN's season tickets.

Hell, I'll pay for Season Tickets for every member of this board for the remainder of their lives if either of the two QBs are selected.
 

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If the Cardinals select ANY of the following players with their 5th pick..

Adrian Peterson

While I don't think we need another RB. Take a look at the 4 teams left in the playoffs. They all have two very talented RBs.

Chicago - Jones/Benson
New Orleans - McAlister/Bush
New England - Dillon/Maroney
Indy - Addai/Rhodes

While I agree that we have some other major holes, if AP falls to us and we have him ranked #1 on our board and Joe Thomas is gone, I think we could do alot worse than to pick him.
 
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While I don't think we need another RB. Take a look at the 4 teams left in the playoffs. They all have two very talented RBs.

Chicago - Jones/Benson
New Orleans - McAlister/Bush
New England - Dillon/Maroney
Indy - Addai/Rhodes

While I agree that we have some other major holes, if AP falls to us and we have him ranked #1 on our board and Joe Thomas is gone, I think we could do alot worse than to pick him.

I get what you're saying and do not disagree that the HB position will be addressed at some point in this draft, maybe even in the second with someone like Kenny Irons of Auburn, I just don't forsee the Cardinals taking AP at #5.
 

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I get what you're saying and do not disagree that the HB position will be addressed at some point in this draft, maybe even in the second with someone like Kenny Irons of Auburn, I just don't forsee the Cardinals taking AP at #5.

Bush in the 2nd round would be ideal.
 
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I'd definitely not mind Michael Bush in Round 2. With his leg injury, he could be one of those long term players that may not pay immediate dividends, but becomes someone who proves his worth later on.
 

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Peterson is a "stud" running back. You take him if he's available.
All "contending" teams have someone in the stable.
 

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What if boldin/ fitz or edge goes down? We saw last year what happened when fitz was out. I think anyone of those guys would be very nice to have.
First is Thomas then Johnson, DE and Peterson is how I see our board.
 

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What if boldin/ fitz or edge goes down? We saw last year what happened when fitz was out. I think anyone of those guys would be very nice to have.
First is Thomas then Johnson, DE and Peterson is how I see our board.


If Whisenhunt sticks by what he said about having a physical Oline, we aren't going after Thomas (and he'll likely not be there anyways). We are NOT drafting another first round WR PERIOD
 

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I think the most underrated back in the draft is Antonio Pittman. He may be there in round 4 and would be a steal if he was.He was a 2 time 1000 yard rusher at OSU and he didn't get a ton of carries.Also has some breakaway speed.
 

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Most likely our choice will be Branch DT, Anderson DE or Adams DE. I think all three could be there when we pick. Having a dominant defensive line is a good start.
 

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DE would make more sense. We have four DT's and a DE usually helps the pass rush, which in turn should help the DB's. The question is how does Branch compare to the two DE's on the Cards' board. IMO, he'd have to be much better in order to go DT.
 

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A lot of things can happen until draft day. The Combine and personal work-out usually changes the board a lot.

The Vikings, Dolphins, PAnthers and even the Texans could pay a huge price to move up if Russell is there.
 

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Peterson is a possibility, IMO, albeit a remote one.

I'd love to see what happens to opposing defenses when they see Peterson, Edge, Boldin and Fitz all in the huddle.
 

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As I suggested in another thread, keep your eye out for a sleeper WLB who shoots up the charts the way did Ernest Sims did last year.

Following that model, he'd be known as a lights-out hitter and playmaker in college who maybe didn't see much playing time in his last season due to injury, but whose forty time and other drill results were "off the charts."

To a lesser degree, this could also apply to CB or S.
 

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I think the most underrated back in the draft is Antonio Pittman. He may be there in round 4 and would be a steal if he was.He was a 2 time 1000 yard rusher at OSU and he didn't get a ton of carries.Also has some breakaway speed.

I like him too.
 

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If Whisenhunt sticks by what he said about having a physical Oline, we aren't going after Thomas (and he'll likely not be there anyways). We are NOT drafting another first round WR PERIOD

If anyone in the front office is to be believed, it's not really up to Ken Whisenthunt. It's up to Rod Graves. Hopefully he's learned something since the Trade Down disaster.
 

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You might have to eat crow on Peterson. I could see us drafting him (or moving down so someone could draft him in our spot).
 

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You might have to eat crow on Peterson. I could see us drafting him (or moving down so someone could draft him in our spot).

I might have to eat it as well. I really want Thomas as our pick, but fear that he will be gone. Ginn is a reach, so Peterson would be an ok pick.
 

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If anyone in the front office is to be believed, it's not really up to Ken Whisenthunt.

To a point. All GMs will ask their coaches what type of players they want to fit into the system

Whisenhunt will still have input its just a question of how much input he'll have

It's up to Rod Graves. Hopefully he's learned something since the Trade Down disaster.

Agreed
 

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While I don't think we need another RB. Take a look at the 4 teams left in the playoffs. They all have two very talented RBs.

Chicago - Jones/Benson
New Orleans - McAlister/Bush
New England - Dillon/Maroney
Indy - Addai/Rhodes

While I agree that we have some other major holes, if AP falls to us and we have him ranked #1 on our board and Joe Thomas is gone, I think we could do alot worse than to pick him.

excellent point and not often addressed....two running backs that compliment each other is the flavor of the month lately....i would not be totally shocked with peterson as our pick if available...when the powers that be hold their strategy sessions they will know at that time the direction of the offense....we need one that can comfortably run the ball 35-40 times a game regardless if we are up ny 10 or down by 10....those are the teams that win.
 

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Peterson is a "stud" running back. You take him if he's available.
All "contending" teams have someone in the stable.

i shudda' read all the posts before i put my two cents in...i just said the same thing...cannot pass on peterson if available.
 

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