LoyaltyisaCurse
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Unless Cards offer him serious moola before March 10. He will Be unrestricted and that means $$$$$$$.
IMO: We are going to lose Dan Williams
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I doubt they let him hit the market unrestricted. It's not Rod Graves anymore where he'd let other teams "set" the market. Keim will likely transition tag him at worse.
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Transtion tag for a player who played the 30 percent of snaps?
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Without a doubt. Snap count is basically irrelevant when it comes to assessing the value of a good NT.
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We'd better not lose him.
I'd like Dan to stay but its not like he is elite
kerouac9
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Urban said in his chat that the Cards were going to let him test the market.
Why? Good nose tackles aren't that easy to find. It's not like we have another one of the roster with Ta'amu being pretty much a complete non-factor this season.
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Here's what Urban had to say:
I think that (1) the Cards are going to be cap-inflexibile until something is determined with Larry Fitzgerald, and that's probably not going to happen until the 5th day of the league year, and (2) it takes two to tango--Williams has absolutely no risk right now of waiting until free agency comes along. The Cards would have to money-whip him to get him to stay without testing the waters, and that's not a smart financial decision at this moment.
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Got hurt in the same game as the Honey Badger, and is about 200 lbs more than Mathieu is.
Last I saw Tyrann Mathieu was not playing up to his top ability because of injury, thus I would suspect Ta'amu was having issue coming back as well.
Not to mention the team seems to like Bruce Gaston as well.
Not to mention this draft seems to have a couple good NT prospects coming out.
All that being said, would love to see Dan Williams back next year. Thought he really grew the last two years.
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If he goes, chalk up another Cardinal 1st round pick that ends up elsewhere. Just once I'd like to see a 1st rounder, who didn't end up a bust, play most of if not all of his career here. Just once.
kerouac9
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I don't think this is fair any longer. Levi Brown played his entire career here, as did Beanie Wells. While those guys were disappointments, I don't think it's fair to call either a bust.
Meanwhile, Patrick Peterson is on his second contract; Larry Fitzgerald is playing on his third.
Like Larry, Not a bust and been here over 10 years
Pat Peterson, Not a bust and here for 3 years already and signed for 5 more.
Cant judge the last few years including williams yet really but before these guys it was for sure an issue.
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Nope. Brown suited up as a Steeler after he was traded and, yes, both are busts. Levi Brown played most of his career here for reasons unknown as he was a terrible tackle. Basically Leonard Davis 2.0. The guy played like he had his feet in cement. As for Wells, he was made of glass and never lived up to his potential. That, my friend, is the true definition of a bust. As for Peterson, jury is still out as there are many who believe he regressed this season. And as for Fitz, it's looking more and more likely he will be gone. Granted, since the Cards came to AZ he's the longest tenured 1st round pick, he's going to end his career on another team and that would be a travesty.
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I don't think that Levi Brown was an active member of the Pittsburgh Steelers for a single game. Looking at Pro Football Reference, it looks like he played in one game but didn't start.
We got 79 starts out of Levi Brown over 6 years; that's not a bust. You don't give a bust a second contract.
You have a pretty expansive definition of a bust, I guess. Beanie had 1000 yards and 10 TDs in 2011.
IMO busts are uesless. Beanie played for years as did Levi. They werent up to expectations but a bust is Ryan leaf, not a kid who got drafted too early and then got moved to LT when he should be RT.
kerouac9
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Right? If Levi Brown was a bust what the heck has Jonathan Cooper been so far? Even I'm not calling him a bust yet, but Brown was 1000x more useful than Cooper has been.
It's hilarious that Levi Brown and Beanie Wells are clear busts but NJ doesn't understand the Jonathan Cooper hate. LOL.
gmabel830
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Wasn't Levi active for the Steelers but then like tore his ACL in pre-game warm ups and never actually played a snap for them?
kerouac9
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According to FootballOutsiders.com, Brown didn't take a single offensive or special teams snap for the Steelers in 2013.
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This. I'd be mighty surprised if Williams is not a Cardinal next year. The guy is the anchor of the defense.
Zeno
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Do you really consider Leonard Davis a bust? Come on, the guy was a good--but never great OT and a GREAT OG.
kerouac9
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Just to expand on this: Leonard Davis spent 12 years in the NFL and went to 3 Pro Bowls and was a 2nd Team All-Pro. He started 91 of a possible 96 games for the Arizona Cardinals. And he saved a horse's life.
But he was a bust and NJ's confused at why people are concerned about Jonathan Cooper.
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I think he is elite in the fact that he does exactly what one wants in a 3-4, he clogs the middle like nobody's business and cannot be moved. It is not easy finding a good NT for a 3-4. They have to be monsters physically and Dan is active moving from sideline to sideline and good luck finding another big man who can move like that. The whole Fitzgerald situation is holding this team hostage at the moment. Stay or go, it needs to be fixed now!
