In Case You Needed Closure: Fitz Officially Calls it Quits

[Stout]

So Fitz couldn't tolerate someone that was in many ways just like he was the first several years of his career?
Nah, Larry retired because he was done! He knew it and so did most everyone watching. Don't buy into the nonsense.

Um, revisionist history much? Larry's always been the quiet leader. He's always put the work in, and then some, and has always been nails. I guess you can say KM suffers compared to Larry simply because, as a QB, more is expected of him? Otherwise, bringing a hate on against probably the franchise's best every player in his retirement thread to defend KM is just bizarre.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Over the years, my attitude towards Boldin has changed, I think something really screwed up happen for him to walk off like he did before the Super Bowl. To see Fitz and Boldin inducted at the same time would be awesome for the Cards ring of honor... and frankly, Larry Centers, Dansby and Dockett deserve that as much as a QB

 

[Syracusecards]

So Fitz couldn't tolerate someone that was in many ways just like he was the first several years of his career?
Nah, Larry retired because he was done! He knew it and so did most everyone watching. Don't buy into the nonsense.

Please produce any evidence of Larry moping on the sidelines or curling up into a little ball when he was about to be hit. Please produce ANY evidence of him playing video games instead of working to be a HOF receiver and one of the best to ever do it. I agree that Larry was done, but don’t start trashing one of the best ever to dispute someone’s post.

 

[Stout]

Please produce any evidence of Larry moping on the sidelines or curling up into a little ball when he was about to be hit. Please produce ANY evidence of him playing video games instead of working to be a HOF receiver and one of the best to ever do it. I agree that Larry was done, but don’t start trashing one of the best ever to dispute someone’s post.

 

[WeBlitz]

Please produce any evidence of Larry moping on the sidelines or curling up into a little ball when he was about to be hit. Please produce ANY evidence of him playing video games instead of working to be a HOF receiver and one of the best to ever do it. I agree that Larry was done, but don’t start trashing one of the best ever to dispute someone’s post.

Didn’t he beat up his ex gf?

 

[TJ]

Didn’t he beat up his ex gf?

It was a claim that was never substantiated.

 

[ajcardfan]

Didn’t he beat up his ex gf?

The claim she made with no evidence and the police didn't bring charges because they didn't find it credible? A claim made in a custody dispute?

I got divorced, went to court for split custody and back again for full custody of my youngest. I can tell you first hand, in that situation, lying and exaggeration by the aggrieved spouse can occur.

 

[CardLogic]

Jim Trotter, one of Larry's closest confidants and the co-author with Larry on his book, was speaking yesterday on the NFL Network about Kyler Murray.
I have always suspected that Larry and Kyler didn't mesh... that Larry simply couldn't tolerate the immaturity and reclusive, non-leadership qualities of Kyler. We'll likely never know...but my own guess is that Larry would've likely played one more year...but for Kyler.

So Fitz couldn't tolerate someone that was in many ways just like he was the first several years of his career?
Nah, Larry retired because he was done! He knew it and so did most everyone watching. Don't buy into the nonsense.

Um, revisionist history much? Larry's always been the quiet leader. He's always put the work in, and then some, and has always been nails. I guess you can say KM suffers compared to Larry simply because, as a QB, more is expected of him? Otherwise, bringing a hate on against probably the franchise's best every player in his retirement thread to defend KM is just bizarre.

Please produce any evidence of Larry moping on the sidelines or curling up into a little ball when he was about to be hit. Please produce ANY evidence of him playing video games instead of working to be a HOF receiver and one of the best to ever do it. I agree that Larry was done, but don’t start trashing one of the best ever to dispute someone’s post.

You two (Stout, Syracusecards) are looking for an argument that isn't there! I didn't disparage Fitz; if that is what you got from what I posted, you have mis-read it!

What I stated was that when Fitzgerald came into the league he had similar behaviors as Murray, i.e. - "immaturity and reclusive, non-leadership qualities." Yes, Larry was always a hard-working performer on the field; I think the same might be said of Kyler. But I also remember that Fitz would run off the field at the moment of the final whistle, and was out of the locker room before the reporters were let in. He wanted no part of the "face of the franchise" responsibilities off the field. I clearly recall Warner taking Fitz "under his wing" and schooling him on how he needed to step-up and accept his leadership role.

Question is will Murray evolve into the leader he NEEDS to be; as Fitzgerald eventually did?

 

[PJ1]

Wow. Now Fitz gets trashed by the Kyler apologists. Just unbelievable.

 

[dscher]

MOST people can't tolerate from their kids the crap they used to do

Teenagers suck!

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Wow. Now Fitz gets trashed by the Kyler apologists. Just unbelievable.

Howdy, KM supporter here. In no way, shape or form, do I think Fitz had issues with Murray. I think Larry knew full well he was way past his prime and he had no wish to try to gel with the new generation, just to prolong his career.

 

[Stout]

Howdy, KM supporter here. In no way, shape or form, do I think Fitz had issues with Murray. I think Larry knew full well he was way past his prime and he had no wish to try to gel with the new generation, just to prolong his career.

So, KM has no issues and it was on Larry. Hmm.

 

[gimpy]

So, KM has no issues and it was on Larry. Hmm.

Give me a break.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

So, KM has no issues and it was on Larry. Hmm.

So you survive in life by putting words in other people's mouths? hmmmmmmm

 

[PJ1]

Howdy, KM supporter here. In no way, shape or form, do I think Fitz had issues with Murray. I think Larry knew full well he was way past his prime and he had no wish to try to gel with the new generation, just to prolong his career.

And in no way are they comparable at any points in their careers as it relates to character and leadership. Silly to even bring it up. I’m a KM supporter also but not a blind loyalist.

 

[Stout]

So you survive in life by putting words in other people's mouths? hmmmmmmm

"In no way, shape or form, do I think Fitz had issues with Murray." Your words, despite reports to the contrary at the time.

"I think Larry knew full well he was way past his prime and he had no wish to try to gel with the new generation, just to prolong his career." And that's putting any possible rift on Larry's shoulders, not KM's.

Your own words draw the conclusions for me.

 

[Stout]

And in no way are they comparable at any points in their careers as it relates to character and leadership. Silly to even bring it up. I’m a KM supporter also but not a blind loyalist.

Yep. Dragging this argument into a Fitz retirement thread is preposterous.

 

[Stout]

Give me a break.

Yeah, I get it. There's a certain set on this board that thinks KM can absolutely do no wrong. I'm beating my head against the wall on the point. Seems like it's impossible to think he has loads of talent but that he needs to mature, and NOW, to realize his full potential. Gah, no, that would mean admitting he isn't perfect for some folks!

 

[Brian in Mesa]

In a thread about an all-time great Cardinals player, there's no need to mention Kyler Murray.

 

[DVontel]

In a thread about an all-time great Cardinals player, there's no need to mention Kyler Murray.

Yea, please do not derail next time. @82CardsGrad

 

[TRW]

In a thread about an all-time great Cardinals player, there's no need to mention Kyler Murray.

This is the way.

 

[MrYeahBut]

I got a present today from my employees.
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[Syracusecards]

I got a present today from my employees.
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wow, you have some awesome employees!

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I got a present today from my employees.
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Very cool.

What kind of pizza was it?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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