Is Alex Smith a possible QB for the Cardinals?

[BigRedRage]

Actually the stats disagree with you. He certainly isn't a gunslinger, but he does not make many mistakes.

He is kind of like the ultimate game manager, and if we still have a very good defense and David Johnson, we could do much worse than him.

Ill give you this.

If BA retired and goodwin took the HC role, Alex smith would be a GREAT fit in arizona.

 

[DVontel]

Actually the stats disagree with you. He certainly isn't a gunslinger, but he does not make many mistakes.

He is kind of like the ultimate game manager, and if we still have a very good defense and David Johnson, we could do much worse than him.

Stats don't always tell the whole story.

He doesn't make many mistakes because he doesn't take risks. He has left so many plays on the field it is ridiculous. 4th & 12 with the game on the line? He'll throw it 5 yards. Only Alex Smith could go a whole season without throwing a TD to a WR. Only a Alex Smith-led team could lose a playoff game at home with the opponent only scoring 6 FGs.

You should know what you're going to get out of Alex Smith. A guy that will play it safe & when you need him to step up, 9/10 he'll let you down. That's his career in a nutshell.

Give me the unexpected over Alex Smith any day of the week.

 

[Solar7]

Ouch. That is quite a point to make.......they had Anquan Boldin tho.

Oh and this....anytime McCown and Poole are mentioned this must be posted:

The catch that brought us Larry Fitzgerald, because without it, we would have Eli Manning or Philip Rivers.

Great play, although it would be interesting to wonder if we would have had Eli coming to town or not. If he was willing to diss the Chargers, would he have wanted to play for the moribund Cardinals, stadium on the way or not?

Anyways, Boldin was on that roster, but he was a rookie... and Alex Smith had Dwyane Bowe, who I'd mentioned, a guy that had caught 15 TDs in one season before.

I mean, even as a fluke, at some point in 16 games, you'd assume a DB would have tripped over a shoelace or a WR would have taken a slant all the way. It's really an extraordinary feat to throw no touchdowns to your WRs.

 

[robert ethan]

Smith lacks passion. He has the personality of a funeral director. That's not conducive to winning championships, and probably what got him run out of S.F.

 

[Solar7]

Smith lacks passion. He has the personality of a funeral director. That's not conducive to winning championships, and probably what got him run out of S.F.

I always called Alex Smith my favorite 49ers quarterback. Never good enough to win, but not awful enough to drop below mediocrity. I thought Kaep was gonna be their answer for a long time.

 

[Austin Zonie]

Smith > Gabbert


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[robert ethan]

Ya, people forget how great everyone thought Kaepernick was going to be when he had a loaded team around him. The team is everything. For years A. Smith looked like a total loser, when the talent around him picked up under Harbaugh, he was one of the best QBs in the league, statistically. Then Kap looked like a million bucks on the same team (or $120 million, or whatever they paid him), but when things went south around him he was complete crap.

 

[NJCardFan]

Ouch. That is quite a point to make.......they had Anquan Boldin tho.

Oh and this....anytime McCown and Poole are mentioned this must be posted:

The catch that brought us Larry Fitzgerald, because without it, we would have Eli Manning or Philip Rivers.



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What is ironic about this play?

 

[Solar7]

What is ironic about this play?

It's like rain on your wedding day.

 

[NJCardFan]

It's like rain on your wedding day.

No because A) rain on your wedding day is not irony(neither is having 10,000 spoons when you need a knife, not listening to good advice, a traffic jam when you're already late, dying the day after winning the lottery, black flies in your chardonnay, death row pardons 2 minutes too late, a free ride when you already paid or meeting the man of your dreams then meeting his beautiful wife) and B) it's actually good luck. In fact, the only example of true irony in that song is the guy being afraid to fly, taking the chance and flying, then having his plane crash. /correcting Alanis Morissete for the 1000th time

 

[Solar7]

No because A) rain on your wedding day is not irony(neither is having 10,000 spoons when you need a knife, not listening to good advice, a traffic jam when you're already late, dying the day after winning the lottery, black flies in your chardonnay, death row pardons 2 minutes too late, a free ride when you already paid or meeting the man of your dreams then meeting his beautiful wife) and B) it's actually good luck. In fact, the only example of true irony in that song is the guy being afraid to fly, taking the chance and flying, then having his plane crash. /correcting Alanis Morissete for the 1000th time

That was actually my point, haha. Rugby didn't say it was ironic.

 

[NJCardFan]

That was actually my point, haha. Rugby didn't say it was ironic.

Incidentally, the ironic thing is that it was the same pass and catch that beat us in the Super Bowl.

 

[Solar7]

Incidentally, the ironic thing is that it was the same pass and catch that beat us in the Super Bowl.

As much as I don't want to relive that, no it wasn't. Holmes got "two feet" down with the catch, but Poole was forced out. Non-reviewable, game over. Kellen Winslow II caught a touchdown to win the game in Arizona, but the rules still dictated that the force out was different...

Now it's two feet or bust.

 

[TJ]

Ouch. That is quite a point to make.......they had Anquan Boldin tho.

Oh and this....anytime McCown and Poole are mentioned this must be posted:

The catch that brought us Larry Fitzgerald, because without it, we would have Eli Manning or Philip Rivers.



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We still could've taken Rivers, who was picked right after Larry. Denny Green wasn't taking anyone else but Fitz that year.

 

[TJ]

There probably isn't a worse fit in BA's offense than Alex Smith. BA would strangle Alex after his fifth checkdown to a RB in a row. Smith went a couple of seasons without throwing a TD to a wide receiver. His lack of ability to open up the field is remarkable.

Also, there's something concerning about a 33 year-old QB who's never thrown for more than 23 TDs in a season and has only amassed 3500 yards once.

 

[AZCrazy]

Eli wouldn't have come here. He was New York or bust.

We really have to consider, when thinking about QBOF, that our next QB will be here a whole lot longer than BA. Can't just get one to fit his system only.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Eli wouldn't have come here. He was New York or bust.

We really have to consider, when thinking about QBOF, that our next QB will be here a whole lot longer than BA. Can't just get one to fit his system only.

Maybe, maybe not. If BA goes out on his own terms, and isn't fired for poor performance, then it's likely this team will want to keep continuity and promote from within...which would probably mean most of BAs system remains.

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[BigRedRage]

Maybe, maybe not. If BA goes out on his own terms, and isn't fired for poor performance, then it's likely this team will want to keep continuity and promote from within...which would probably mean most of BAs system remains.

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beyond that you dont pick up players that might fit different systems while under a current system. Wouldnt make any sense.

 

[Snakester]

Alex Smith has been a good Quarterback the last five years. If Palmer retires after this season we could do a lot worse than him. I would prefer to draft the next Peyton Manning but Smith would be a good stopgap.
Alex Smith stats the last five years

Career stats
Year
Team
YDS
TD
INT
Rating

2016
KC
3,502
15
8
91.2

2015
KC
3,486
20
7
95.4

2014
KC
3,265
18
6
93.4

2013
KC
3,313
23
7
89.1

2012
SF
1,737
13
5
104.1

 

[BigRedRage]

Alex Smith has been a good Quarterback the last five years. If Palmer retires after this season we could do a lot worse than him. I would prefer to draft the next Peyton Manning but Smith would be a good stopgap.
Alex Smith stats the last five years

Career stats
Year
Team
YDS
TD
INT
Rating

2016
KC
3,502
15
8
91.2

2015
KC
3,486
20
7
95.4

2014
KC
3,265
18
6
93.4

2013
KC
3,313
23
7
89.1

2012
SF
1,737
13
5
104.1

3500 yards is kinda mediocre these days, I dont know if I would give him good.

 

[Snakester]

3500 yards is kinda mediocre these days, I dont know if I would give him good.

Look at his QB rating and how few interceptions he throws. Yea 3,500 yards is pretty average these days but he led his team to winning seasons the last four years at 12-4. 11-5. 9-7. 11-5. I think that speaks of being good.

 

[robert ethan]

3500 yards is kinda mediocre these days, I dont know if I would give him good.

All Smif's good years came when he was 27 or older. At Gabbert's age his passer rating was about the same as Blaine's, comp rate was in the 50s and he had more Ints than Tds. At least Gabbert has thrown more Tds than Ints so far in his career. He's bigger than Smith, a better athlete, and has a much better arm. Sooo...

edit - here are the exact numbers Smith - 57% comp rate, pass rating 71.9, Gabbert 56% comp rate, 71.5 pass rating. Alex played his first 6 seasons for the same team, with just one head coaching change. Gabbert played for 2 different teams with 7 different head coaches. I'd say advantage Gabbert, all things considered. Also Alex was taken first overall in the draft which is worth more than double 10th overall pick by the draft value chart and his salary was probably about 5 times Gabbert's since he came in before they fixed the draft salary scale.

edit - Yeah, I wasn't far off on the draft value/salary situation. #1 pick is worth 3000, #10 pick is worth 1300, and the Jags tradeup actually cost them less than 1300. Smif signed a $50m contract with $24m guaranteed. Gabbert signed $12m deal with $7m guaranteed. Alex was a FAR GREATER "BUST" when he turned 27 than Blaine Gabbert was. By any standards.

 

[BigRedRage]

All Smif's good years came when he was 27 or older. At Gabbert's age his passer rating was about the same as Blaine's, comp rate was in the 50s and he had more Ints than Tds. At least Gabbert has thrown more Tds than Ints so far in his career. He's bigger than Smith, a better athlete, and has a much better arm. Sooo...

Alex smith has played in NFC championship games and led his team to winning records in many seasons as a starter. LEts not compare him to Gabbert, Gabbert has not done anything in this league yet.

 

[robert ethan]

Alex smith has played in NFC championship games and led his team to winning records in many seasons as a starter. LEts not compare him to Gabbert, Gabbert has not done anything in this league yet.

Smith led his team to the same number of NFC championship games at Gabbert's age as Blaine has.

 

[BigRedRage]

Smith led his team to the same number of NFC championship games at Gabbert's age as Blaine has.

That means nothing though. Thats not a stat.

you cant compare a long term starter who has had success to a guy making the veteran minimum fighting for a third string job. I understand you like his potential but that is all Gabbert has is potential.