Is Blake an Upgrade over Plummer

[KingofCards]

Originally posted by Ed B
I want to find the 7 people who said "no" to this and give them a ******* with sandpaper.






(figuratively)

while they stare at a picture of Jake Plummer.

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by Ed B
I want to find the 7 people who said "no" to this and give them a ******* with sandpaper.

The ******* is already the worst consolation prize in the history of civilization.

 

[john h]

Originally posted by RedStorm
This is like the last great act of defiance for the remaing Plummer faithful.......

Who is Plummer?

 

[coyotecard]

Blake vs Jake

I really liked the stuff he had in college but he hasnt evolved much since then. He would have been a back up at Baltimore had he signed there. Would Jake have been a backup behind Redmon with the Ravens?I dont think so.
Jeff has the arm for sure but he hasnt shown he can throw the middle routes and short stuff effectively. The only positive I can think of is that he is a lot better than Kordell. Kind of like not sweating much for a fat lady type of thing. Bottom line: he is the starter until proven otherwise. He is going to need a good center.That should be the Cards next signing-------and soon.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Re: Blake vs Jake

Originally posted by coyotecard
I really liked the stuff he had in college but he hasnt evolved much since then. He would have been a back up at Baltimore had he signed there. Would Jake have been a backup behind Redmon with the Ravens?I dont think so.
Jeff has the arm for sure but he hasnt shown he can throw the middle routes and short stuff effectively. The only positive I can think of is that he is a lot better than Kordell. Kind of like not sweating much for a fat lady type of thing. Bottom line: he is the starter until proven otherwise. He is going to need a good center.That should be the Cards next signing-------and soon.

Actually, Brian Billick made it quite clear that Blake was going to be the starter, but he made a fool out of himself by not offering him market pay.

 

[conraddobler]

Originally posted by Ed B
I want to find the 7 people who said "no" to this and give them a ******* with sandpaper.






(figuratively)

Careful it takes all kinds theres probably a website devoted to people who like that and it wouldn't suprise me if people who worship a QB that constantly punches their team in the face with interceptions would get into stuff such as the above mentioned activity.

 

[coyotecard]

billick etc

Thanks Kranger. Blake has really probably been mishandled all his pro career. Maybe the Big Mac can get him to let it all hang out in Arizona.

 

[MrY]

Is Blake an upgrade over Plummer??...Does Howdy Doody have a wooden a$$???

 

[ChiCard]

Originally posted by MrY
Is Blake an upgrade over Plummer??...Does Howdy Doody have a wooden a$$???

hahahahaha

 

[Wildman©]

Based on Plummer's performance this past season, I would be an upgrade...

 

[PJ1]

Yes, but this isn't saying much. Neither impress me.

 

[HoodieBets]

I think it is a push, so that is why i put no. I think the record will be the same as last year. The division is still very tough and even our game vs. cinn. might be a squeaker. If we were back in the east it would be a different story. I judge more on wins than stats. You could have a 2 rating but if you win 16 games all those stats go out the window. He might be an upgrade in the TD to Int ratio but i dont think there will be a change in the win loss column. That could all change though depending on the draft and the rest of Free Agency.

 

[AzCards21]

Originally posted by azcardsfan1616
I think it is a push, so that is why i put no. I think the record will be the same as last year. The division is still very tough and even our game vs. cinn. might be a squeaker. If we were back in the east it would be a different story. I judge more on wins than stats. You could have a 2 rating but if you win 16 games all those stats go out the window. He might be an upgrade in the TD to Int ratio but i dont think there will be a change in the win loss column. That could all change though depending on the draft and the rest of Free Agency.

I was a huge Plummer fan but how in the world can't you think an upgrade in TD to INT ratio wont be better? That is exactly what wins and loses games.

 

[JeffGollin]

I was a huge Plummer fan but how in the world can't you think an upgrade in TD to INT ratio wont be better?
Blake last year figures to be an upgrade over Plummer last year.

We can't be absolutely sure whether Blake this year will be any better or worse than Jake this year. But there are clues -

Since Jake was throwing to guys who weren't starters when the season opened and operating behind an O-Line missing Clement, Grutts, Kendall for a big chunk of the season and Leonard for the latter part - it's hard to say how good he might be throwing from behind a healthier line to better receivers.

But the thing you have to like about Blake is that he's like the Energizer Bunny. He just keeps humming along and chalking up the same numbers year after year - regardless of where he's playing and what the circumstances are.

For this reason, I'd give him the edge over Jake. (Based on the consistency of his stats, Jeff would have had a better year last year as Cards QB than did Jake. Unless Jake and Denver sneak thru an entire season without injury or other adversity, I think when the dust settles, Blake will prove to be the better QB).

 

[HoodieBets]

Originally posted by AzCards21
I was a huge Plummer fan but how in the world can't you think an upgrade in TD to INT ratio wont be better? That is exactly what wins and loses games.

If you think that is the only thing that wins games you are sadly mistaken. What about ST? Defense? The running game? WR's to throw to? At least plummer had boston, who does blake have to throw to??? The only way the cards win is if the defense makes plays and scores some points for us. I never said it wont be better either, i just said the record would not be better. I never said jake was better than blake or anything close to that. You think we will win more than 5 games this year? I do not think so, well not yet anyway.

 

[BW52]

Originally posted by Ed B
BW52 might be one of them to add to the list....I think I recall him supporting Jake pretty strongly.

Yes i am a Jake Plummer fan and wish him well in Denver.But I am a Cardinal Fan FIRST and wish Jeff Blake well now.Blake`s a Card so i will hope he does what everyone thinks he can do.All in all i like todays signings.

 

[CardsFan88]

Blake has a good deep ball..Blake has NEVER had more int than td's in any season in which he attempted more than nine passes.

He has been on some of the worst teams...and still put up great numbers.

His best year is one in which he had 10 more td passes than plummer ever did.

Blake has been benched in the past for playing 30% better than plummer did...and plummer was the energizer bunny..he kept starting...and starting....and starting...

Had blake been shown more faith, and had better receivers...he would have put up even better numbers

Blake has never had a season with 20 ints...plummer 2
Blake had one year of over 14 ints....17

Plummers stats
90 tds and 114ints in 82 starts and 84 games 69.0 rating 10 rush tds

or
Blakes stats
119 tds 83 ints in 83 starts and 101 games 79.2 rating 12 rush tds

Blake had nothing on plummer when it came to ol and wr's

Blake is Better...hands down...

Remember when you talk about INT's and you think of blake as a downfield passer as well...Hmmmm

That means he passes down the field accurately...and does not throw ints...even though he attempts long throws consistently...AND his completion % is better..than plummers 2 yard rb passes..

Plummer downfield to fast receivers = no workie
Blake downfield to fast receivers = workie

I'm confiedent we will get at least one good wr before the season starts...not boston great..but one good one...with a decent rookie who could become good as well..

 

[azdeftone]

Blake was a good sign in my opinion! Kordell would have struggled here badly at least they made the right call here.

As far as Jake vs. Blake I will withold judgement lets see how the numbers add up through some games in the up coming season. Jake may do very well in Denver and I hope he does. On the same note Hopefully we get some receivers in here and Blake lights it up. I wish them both well it was time for a change and this could be good for all concerned.

 

[Rats]

Originally posted by azdeftone
Blake was a good sign in my opinion! Kordell would have struggled here badly at least they made the right call here.

As far as Jake vs. Blake I will withold judgement lets see how the numbers add up through some games in the up coming season. Jake may do very well in Denver and I hope he does. On the same note Hopefully we get some receivers in here and Blake lights it up. I wish them both well it was time for a change and this could be good for all concerned.

 

[john h]

On Sports Center last night they were discussing whether Jake could get the coach fired if he does not pan out. The answer was no because they said in reality his contract only ties him to the team for 2 years at 4.1 mil a year. There are obviously some things about his contract we do not know. The guest thought he would probably do ok but nothing special.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by azdeftone
Blake was a good sign in my opinion! Kordell would have struggled here badly at least they made the right call here.

As far as Jake vs. Blake I will withold judgement lets see how the numbers add up through some games in the up coming season. Jake may do very well in Denver and I hope he does. On the same note Hopefully we get some receivers in here and Blake lights it up. I wish them both well it was time for a change and this could be good for all concerned.

Wow, if Azdeftone agrees with the signing, I feel even better about it!

Good luck Jake, you will need plenty of it. Now I can pull for Jake as a former Sun Devil, and forget the fact that he was ever a Card!

 

[azsports]

I vote NO. Blake is not better than Plummer. But he is better than Stewart.

 

[Lex]

Is Blake an upgrade over Plummer?

Does a Chicken have lips?

We now have a perfect quarterback. Cheap, experienced, and a prime candidate for Josh McCown to beat out.

I'm very happy with the Blake signing.

 

[40yearfan]

Originally posted by Ed B

I want to find the 7 people who said "no" to this and give them a ******* with sandpaper.

<p> Good Grief Ed. I didn't notice this until after I voted and now I am extremely happy that I did vote yes. You sir--are a sadist. I sure am glad your a Cardinal fan.

 

[justAndy]

a little more statistcal analysis...

Plummer's Td/INT RATIO is 0.789:1
Blake's Td/INT " is 1.434:1
Blake's RATIO is 1.82 times BETTER than Jake's.
I'd call that signifigant.
Their average per rush is identical.
No one coddled and protected Blake from competion the way Jake was. Good luck to him in Denver.
GO CARDS!!!!!!