Is Brenly braindead?

[Lefty]

Like I mentioned before, a player goes hitless in a few games and people are all over him. In the beginning of this week Matt was hitting over 300 and no one was saying anything. Matt is one of the only players on this team that has power and I rather see him in the line-up than Womacl(182 average) and Spivey(133 average) playing together. It's just too bad Colby was not re-signed because he could be platooning with Matt. I don't mind Spivey in the line-up because I believe he will break the slump and return to last year's form. I just don't think Womack will ever be the hitter Brenly thinks he can be and his OBP is not good. Also, I hope none of you think Tracy should be called up now. We all knowit would be stupid to rush Chad up. He needs all the at-bats in Tucson he can get. I think he will be more ready by the time August and September roll around. A year in Tucson did not hurt Overbay and it won't for Chad

 

[RLakin]

Originally posted by Zona90
It's just too bad Colby was not re-signed because he could be platooning with Matt.

Why would you platoon two right handed 3rd baseman?

 

[mark1]

Zona90

At this stage of his career, Matt Williams is a terrible baseball player. He should have retired two years ago. That is why the Diamondbacks tried to unload him on Colorado. Why Braindead plays him at all against righthanders is truly baffling.

 

[Lefty]

If Colby was on the team they would platoon him because he hits righties better than Matt does. Colby had such a sweat swing. He also was a key pinch hitter.

 

[AZZenny]

Matt Williams: .205 Avg/.295 SLG/.295 OBP (44 PA)

Chad Tracy: .443 / .590 / .485 (61)

Mike Bell: .333 / .548 / .364 (42)

Maybe one could argue Chad can benefit from a little more Triple-A seasoning, although half of Chad Tracy is as good as Matty is now, but it's harder to make that same case against Mike Bell, (and I'd rather see Tracy up).

Matty is no longer an asset to the team, he is basically a space-occupier, like Tony, and Matty is the reigning Pop-Up King. He hasn't driven in more than 65 RBI in three years, his OBP hasn't been over .325, best SLG was .479. You may be right he'll play third until someone parks on his foot, unfortunately, but it's not for want of the organization trying to unload him. When JC said after the season that he wanted a big RH bat, he was making a statement about Matty as much as anything.

Speaking of Tony - I almost choked when this week's Rag Formerly Known As Baseball Weekly said, "The Diamondbacks are quietly preparing themselves to lose Tony Womack after this season." If we could mess with his GPS and lose him THIS season, I suspect we would.

Hmmmm....there's a thought....

 

[RLakin]

Originally posted by Zona90
If Colby was on the team they would platoon him because he hits righties better than Matt does. Colby had such a sweat swing. He also was a key pinch hitter.

I agree about Colbrunn being key, but his specialty wasn't hitting against right handed pitching. Why not have Baerga platoon at third w/ Williams? Baerga is killing lefties.

Oh, but that means Baerga gets the majority of playing time at third. It's easier to sit an All-Star 2nd baseman, instead.

 

[Lefty]

First, Williams hits lefties very well and second Baerga is not a third baseman. Just because he can play second and first does not mean he can play third. They should play Counsell at third against righties. Defense is just as important as offense, just look at tonight's game. Williams is solid at third and Counsell is just as good. I don't want to see a guy like Baerga, who is not used to playing playing third. Keep him at second, first and right field.

 

[RLakin]

Originally posted by Zona90
First, Williams hits lefties very well and second Baerga is not a third baseman. Just because he can play second and first does not mean he can play third. They should play Counsell at third against righties. Defense is just as important as offense, just look at tonight's game. Williams is solid at third and Counsell is just as good. I don't want to see a guy like Baerga, who is not used to playing playing third. Keep him at second, first and right field.

Sorry I meant righties. 455 Avg. 2 HR, 10 RBI and (just for DWKB) .435 OBP.


As to the rest of this, Baerga has played 174 career games at 3rd base, and even 50 at SS. He has zero major league experience in right field to speak of.

 

[Lefty]

I went to a spring training game and he was playing right field. Finally, this is the last response to this thread but I don't want to hear any of the anti-Matt Williams people praising him if he hits a home run or wins a game with a hit.

 

[RLakin]

Originally posted by Zona90
I went to a spring training game and he was playing right field.

Good. He's just never done it in a regular season game.

 

[RLakin]

Originally posted by Zona90
In the beginning of this week Matt was hitting over 300 and no one was saying anything.

Originally posted by Zona90
Finally, this is the last response to this thread but I don't want to hear any of the anti-Matt Williams people praising him if he hits a home run or wins a game with a hit.

All right, so you don't want people to do what you get mad at them for not doing? Makes sense. Or is this an after-the-fact hypothetical?

 

[BC867]

Originally posted by RLakin
Both are playing great, but the "Erubiel who" seemed outlandish considering his numbers are better than Overbay's right now.

C'mon, RLakin! The "Erubiel who" comment was tongue-in-cheek.

But it is true that Ruby hit like an all-star with us every time he came back from an injury . . . then settled into mediocrity. Every time!

Is there any question that Overbay is going to be a more consistant hitter? Or rather, is showing (with his current hitting streak) that he is a more consistant hitter, even this early in his Major League career.

 

[DWKB]

Originally posted by BC867
C'mon, RLakin! The "Erubiel who" comment was tongue-in-cheek.

But it is true that Ruby hit like an all-star with us every time he came back from an injury . . . then settled into mediocrity. Every time!

Is there any question that Overbay is going to be a more consistant hitter? Or rather, is showing (with his current hitting streak) that he is a more consistant hitter, even this early in his Major League career.

Well I'd like to see you prove that Ruby wasn't a consistant hitter, or that Overbay is/will be a more consistant hitter. Does consistant = productive? If not, and you had to chose, which one would be the better option: a consistant hitter or a productive hitter?

For instance, Tony Womack has been a very consistant hitter on a yearly basis. His career avg is .274 and he rarely strays from that. You take any year he's had since 1997 and you get hardly any deviation from his avg.

 

[BC867]

Originally posted by DWKB
For instance, Tony Womack has been a very consistant hitter on a yearly basis. His career avg is .274 and he rarely strays from that. You take any year he's had since 1997 and you get hardly any deviation from his avg.

Tony Womack -- consistent?!?

For the third year in a row, he has been demoted in the batting order for failing to produce during the first half of the season.

That's consistently inconsistent!

 

[DWKB]

Originally posted by BC867
Tony Womack -- consistent?!?

For the third year in a row, he has been demoted in the batting order for failing to produce during the first half of the season.

That's consistently inconsistent!

Wow...you totally missed the point. Ryan pointed out not too long ago that a guy in this game can get 1 hit every game for 162 games and still be hitting .250

That hypothetical player is as conistent as you can get (he always gets one hit) but he's not very productive.

Tony Womack is pretty reliable to give you a .274 hitter without much stray. He's not gonna hit .250 and he's not gonna hit .300.


That is consistant, reliable, steady.


Anyways, you still haven't proven anything. If you're gonna get on here and speak "truths" then you've got to prove them.

 

[AZZenny]

Back to the topic of the thread for a sec - Today's lineup just bewilders me. Tony, Grace, Q, and Junior in the same lineup when we really need to keep some momentum going. Friggin' unbelievable, Bob.

 

[BC867]

Originally posted by DWKB
Anyways, you still haven't proven anything. If you're gonna get on here and speak "truths" then you've got to prove them.

I have to prove that . . .

For the third year in a row, he has been demoted in the batting order for failing to produce during the first half of the season.

Look it up, DWKB. Or ask any D'backs fan!

There's about a 40-point differential between Tony's pre- and post-All Star game batting averages for 2001 and 2002. And, for the 3rd year in a row, he has been dropped from Leadoff in the batting order.

How do you figure that's not the truth?

 

[DWKB]

No, prove to me that Durazo isn't consistent or that Overbay is more consistent than Durazo. You know, the thing you said was "true" earlier in this thread?

But it is true that Ruby hit like an all-star with us every time he came back from an injury . . . then settled into mediocrity. Every time!

Is there any question that Overbay is going to be a more consistant hitter? Or rather, is showing (with his current hitting streak) that he is a more consistant hitter, even this early in his Major League career.

In other words, I'm questioning you. What do you back up your statement with?


(edit)

I would also like to point out that you seem to misunderstand what the word "consistent" means. You question Tony's consistency but then back up your questioning by showing how consistent he is in his performance.

 

[BC867]

Originally posted by DWKB
No, prove to me that Durazo isn't consistent or that Overbay is more consistent than Durazo. You know, the thing you said was "true" earlier in this thread?

In other words, I'm questioning you. What do you back up your statement with?

I would also like to point out that you seem to misunderstand what the word "consistent" means. You question Tony's consistency but then back up your questioning by showing how consistent he is in his performance.

You caught me on a technicality. I took for granted that you would understand that I was referring to whether Durazo or Womack have been consistently good

Y'know, I didn't comment on your misspelling the word 'consistent'.

Rather than trying to win on semantics, I'm more concerned with seeing our D'backs play their best performers and combinations.

Let's move on!