Is Calais Campbell Worth of Cardinals Ring of Honor?

[Yuma]

All time HOF players get voted in nationally. ROH is for the team to pick locally, and I have always thought fan favoritism is where this award applies. Like with Pat Tillman. Just stats wise he would not be ROH, but we all know he is!

 

[cardpa]

I think ring of honor goes to guys who are either iconic or led this team to a Super Bowl.

Calais falls short.

He did play for the team in a Super Bowl.

 

[cardpa]

Since Dick "Night Train" Lane is in the ROH then Campbell certainly deserves to be in it. Here is the other reality folks, Warner who is also in it had 1 good year and 2 really good years for the Cardinals and player in 1 SB for them. His first 2 years in a Cardinal uniform were nothing special. So if 3 good years and a SB is enough to put Warner in the ROH then Campbell should go in too. Campbell was also on that SB team and played for the Cardinals for 9 years. Yes, he definitely deserves a ROH spot. There are 4 ROH guys who are not in the HOF.

 

[kerouac9]

Seriously. Campbells peaks were higher than Anquan Boldin, and he's been with the team longer.

I doubt anyone here would not welcome Q into the RoH.

 

[Reign Blood]

Right now no. Wait a few years and we won't be still mad at him and yes.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Ok now your just being ridiculous

+1

If I am making my All-Time NFL team, and I have to draft, he is my #1 pick every time.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Seriously. Campbells peaks were higher than Anquan Boldin, and he's been with the team longer.

I doubt anyone here would not welcome Q into the RoH.

You are 100% correct, that doesn't mean either player deserves it tho.

Neither Campbell or Boldin are in the ROH, IMHO.

 

[kerouac9]

You are 100% correct, that doesn't mean either player deserves it tho.

Neither Campbell or Boldin are in the ROH, IMHO.

I think we ask this whenever the question comes up, but what is the Ring of Honor for? I understand that it's a way to celebrate the most important players to the franchise. Didn't they just put Roy Green in the Ring of Honor? Two Pro Bowls, Two first-team All-Pros. Two seasons where he had double-digit TDs; three seasons over 1000 yards receiving.

I don't think that Boldin deserves to go in the ROH. I think that Campbell probably does.

 

[Jetstream Green]

You are 100% correct, that doesn't mean either player deserves it tho.

Neither Campbell or Boldin are in the ROH, IMHO.

I would not put in Campbell because though he was with us through better times, he was strong but not dynamic in a sense that jumps out. Could you imagine how good Campbell would have been if he actually had a mean streak, the guy is a giant teddy bear and his words probably come across to his fellow players as more of a generic "rah rah" and he was never the leader I know he aspired to be. We can knock on crazy Dockett, but that guy would inspire me while the gentle giant would not. I am not saying that Campbell was average, he was damn good but he lacks 'it' and I would not put in a player like Boldin who had 'it' in large quantities because he then became 'full of it' towards the end of his tenure with us if you know what I mean (unless Boldin would apologize to the fans for becoming a self centered baby cry in route to the Super Bowl). I will say this though in Campbell's defense, I live in Texas but I know he was huge in the Arizona community and that aspect might be something to consider and put him in the Ring of Honor anyways

 

[jmt]

No way - he is good but not great.

 

[football karma]

Seriously. Campbells peaks were higher than Anquan Boldin, and he's been with the team longer.

I doubt anyone here would not welcome Q into the RoH.

i guess i am the outlier here

If he plays this year, Anquan will spend more seasons not in a Cardinals uniform than in it

He also forced his way out of town after taking offense to the Cardinals not renegotiating a contract that was from renegotiating his rookie deal.

 

[Bodha]

I'd vote yes.

Interesting take that it should be for HOF'ers only. That would certainly settle who gets on and who doesn't. But I don't like setting the bar THAT high.

Yes it is a very high bar, and why shouldnt it be? The ROH is only as grand as its weakest link. On one side of the stadium you have all time greats, legends of the sport known the world over in Kurt Warner and Larry Fitzgerald. And on the other side you have a local fan favorite. Theres no consistency in the quality of player.


And the 2nd point ill make, is the HOF standard is fair. It saves us from difficult conversations like "Well if CC is in, should Dockett be? What about Q? What about Dansby?". etc.

And there are exceptions, like Adrian. ADub is not a HOFr. But he should be. Thats universally understood. Nobody is saying "CC should be a HOFr". Thats the difference. Either you are legitimately in the HOF OR You should be.

 

[Mitch]

I could see why Kurt Warner makes the Cardinals ROH -- because he was magical for 2-3 years during the Cardinals only Super Bowl run. Plus, he is a Hall of Famer who played like one when he was in Arizona.

With Campbell, his playoff stats are disappointing and he was never once a 1st team All-Pro (2 Pro Bowls in 9 years). At least Dockett came up with 3 huge sacks in the Super Bowl.

But I do not think CC or DD have strong enough cases for the ROH. Neither one of them has a shot of making the Hall of Fame, unless CC erupts in Jacksonville and leads them to a Super Bowl victory.

 

[Capital Card]

Calais is a borderline candidate for the Cardinals ROH. In his favor are:

1. Dominant player at his position.
2. #2 in Career Sacks for the Organization.
3. Longevity with the team
4. Outstanding track record of representing the organization in the community.
5. Multiple Pro-Bowls (was it 2?)

Con's:

In some way, at the end of every season, I always thought he could have done a little more.

Ultimately, I wouldn't lobby for him, but I'd be darn proud of him should he get it.

As for Boldin, he played more games in another teams uniform than he did with us. That, coupled with the way he went out disparaging our team on multiple occasions, keeps him from making the ROH.

Let Baltimore post his name up. He won a SB there, made the ProBowl, and most important to him, he got "paid". Except the longevity issue works against him there too; but, that is the price of being a mercenary... chasing dollars for different teams... Cashing in now in exchange for leaving a legacy after your career winds down.

 

[sdscard4]

I think of Calais along the lines of a Ronny McKinnon. I know the sacks aren't the same. As an overall ' honor' award....id say if Calais makes it you better start thinking of the Frank Sanders....Docketts .....Q and Freddie Joe's of the world.

 

[sdscard4]

I also think his Post Season stats are horrendous. 9 games and basically invisible.

 

[AZ Native]

First of all I love CC the man and what he represents. But wasn't he accused by many of "taking plays off"? Did he really give us his all on every play? I love the guy but he is not in the ROH IMHO.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Would Calais even want to be in the ROH?

Honestly, is there any money in it for him?

#sarcasmalert #Calai$

 

[JeffGollin]

First of all I love CC the man and what he represents. But wasn't he accused by many of "taking plays off"? Did he really give us his all on every play? I love the guy but he is not in the ROH IMHO.

We don't know if the "takes plays off" criticism is legit or merely a coach pressing buttons. What my eyeballs tell me is that CC consistently put forth good effort.

That said - lets say for the sake of argument - there are 8 players in the ROH. CC's addition would make him one of 9 players to hold that honor.

Of all time.

Starting with players as talented as Charley Trippi, Elmer Angsman, Night Train Lane, Sonny Randle, Jim Hart, Jackie Smith & Conrad Dobler and winding up with Aeneas Williams.

From the standpoint of overall talent, value to the community, contributing to the team's success etc., does Calais belong with these 8 other stalwarts? Hmmm. Tough call.

* Note - I'm sure I left more deserving players off the list (including the unsung ones like Ken Harvey, Pat Summerall, Roy Green and OJ Anderson)

 

[Jetstream Green]

I think of Calais along the lines of a Ronny McKinnon. I know the sacks aren't the same. As an overall ' honor' award....id say if Calais makes it you better start thinking of the Frank Sanders....Docketts .....Q and Freddie Joe's of the world.

I think the Freddie Joe Nunn comparison is a excellent one

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[oaken1]

with CC there was always that feeling that he was about to break out....until there was that feeling that he will never break out..

some of you say "dominant player at his position"...okay...but when did that dominant player ever "Dominate"...when was the time we could just know that CC was about to take over a game?

hell,...even my football hating ol'lady could feel it with Fitz..... she would talk about him like he lives in the matrix...I would be getting a drink and she would yell at me,..."Baby,...he is doing his "Larry" thing again"... Larry can go into a zone and electrify a game....take it over..."DOMINATE"...from a position that is actually dependent upon another player...and the bigger the game the greater the domination...
they could put Larry in the RoH right now and I am fine with it...leave the dude there forever...

but CC?? Sweetest Teddy Bear I have ever seen on a football field,...unfortunately the team needed a 6'8" DE with a nasty attitude and the ability to change a game by himself....and he wasn't it

 

[cardpa]

I don't think HOF and ROH are on the same level. Players who should make a ROH on a team would never sniff a HOF ballot. They just are not on the same level. One is the best of all NFL teams and the other is the best of one particular team. Even the qualifications are completely different. With all due respect to Pat Tillman, he will probably never make the HOF although he certainly deserves to be in the ROH. The ROH is reserved in my opinion for those players who made an impact while playing for the team both on and off the field. That is why Warner is there, not solely based on his on field accomplishments but also for what he has done off the field nor for the number of years he played for the team.

 

[NJCardFan]

Since Dick "Night Train" Lane is in the ROH then Campbell certainly deserves to be in it. Here is the other reality folks, Warner who is also in it had 1 good year and 2 really good years for the Cardinals and player in 1 SB for them. His first 2 years in a Cardinal uniform were nothing special. So if 3 good years and a SB is enough to put Warner in the ROH then Campbell should go in too. Campbell was also on that SB team and played for the Cardinals for 9 years. Yes, he definitely deserves a ROH spot. There are 4 ROH guys who are not in the HOF.

Sorry but CC couldn't carry Lane's jock. Lane still holds the interception record and set it in a year when they only played 12 games.

 

[JeffGollin]

Don't see the comparison of CC to FJ Nunn.

Freddie Joe was an elite pass rusher, but (from what I could see) far from the leader Calais seemed to be.

(Yeah, a teddy bear - if he was being evaluated for a draft, his write-up would no doubt suggest that they move him to the offensive line).

 

[crisper57]

Nope.