Is Geno Smith worthy of a top 10 pick?

[Cbus cardsfan]

Smith is generally considered the 1st QB off the board but does he realy warrant a top 10 grade? Just because you are the highest rated QB, doesn't mean you have to go early in the draft. That kind of thinking gets you Alex Smith at #1 overall and, no matter what his supporters think, he isn't/wasn't a number #1 overall worthy QB.

In fact, this year we could easily see another Alex Smith/Aaron Rodgers type draft where the guy selected late 1st/early 2nd is significantly better as a NFL QB.

Geno Smith had a great year but when teams were able to pressure him, he struggled. Also, he played in a terrible defensive conference where a low scoring game is in the 40's. He doesn't have great mechanics but he gets the ball there accurately and throws a very good deep ball. I don't know about his arm strength but it seems like he the arm to make the throws. He has improved every year but it looks like he feasts on the weak competition. The best defense he face this year, K-ST, his longest completion was 13 yards and threw for 143 total. To me, that's a huge red flag. I know QB's have bad games but he did it against the best defense he faced all year and it's not like KST gets confused with LSU when it comes to defense.

The bottom line is, I defnitley don't trade up for him and I'm very hesitant to take him if I'm the Cards and sitting there at #5. I hope the Cards don't let need overtake value again. I think I'd much rather have a draft of Demontre Moore/Luke Joeckle/ Mati Te'o and then take a guy like Wilson or Nassib who could easily become much better pros than Smith. I wouldn't hate taking Smith but I's just as soon let somebody else take a chance on him.

I will hate it if the Cards take Matt Barkley. Think Phrazbit and Kolb and multiply it by about 100.

 

[imaCafan]

Let me further ask, because I saw it in a mock. Geno Smith & Luke Joeckel are both there when the Cardinals make their pick. Who do you take????

 

[Cheesebeef]

yeah... i might actually go through with that whole being hypnotized into becoming a fan of a different team thing Ouchie and i have mused about over the years if this group of idiots draft Barkley.

 

[AZCB34]

If Smith is the top Qb in the draft that should tell you how crappy the QB class is.

 

[PACardsFan]

Everyone should tune in & watch the West Virginia/Syracuse Pinstripe Bowl on 12/29 @ 3:30. Both teams have QB's that the Cardinals might consider. I certainly DO NOT think Geno Smith is a top 10 pick, let alone a top 5 pick. Twice I've seen Syracuse make him look silly & Syracuse's defense is good, but nowhere near top notch. Ryan Nassib from Syracuse is a guy worthy of a 2nd round selection. He's been tutored by Doug Marrone, HC of Syracuse, who previously was the OC with the Saints. Honestly, I only saw Smith play twice this year, but in both games the defenses were putrid beyond words. We are so desperate for a QB, we might want to draft BOTH of them!!

 

[GatorAZ]

Yes he is. WV's defense was arguably the worst in college football history and they had to score 50+ to win. Very predictable for the opposing defense. On a team like ours with a good defense we can run the ball and hit downfield with his superb deep ball. He doesn't have the athleticism of RG3 but he's mobile in the pocket. He's also a smart kid and great teammate according to their players and coaches. Once he smokes his pro-day/interviews his stock will rise.

 

[Bodha]

Yes, of course he is.

Let me further ask, because I saw it in a mock. Geno Smith & Luke Joeckel are both there when the Cardinals make their pick. Who do you take????

Thats a tough one.

Will be highly dependant on combine, pro days and interviews.




Geno is a fascinating prospect. His deep ball accuracy is the best ive ever seen on any level of FB. His decision making is the only thing I question.

 

[JeffGollin]

Geno does bring an aspect of his game that could help us.

Mobility and escapability - a valuable commodity considering our poor pass blocking.

Major question - Is he good enough in the other more traditional aspects of playing QB? If he is, we gotta take him. But that's a very big IF.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Yes, of course he is.




Thats a tough one.

Will be highly dependant on combine, pro days and interviews.




Geno is a fascinating prospect. His deep ball accuracy is the best ive ever seen on any level of FB. His decision making is the only thing I question.

It's a shame you never saw Warren Moon play or that Randall Cunningham guy

 

[artp]

If G Smith is rated a top 5 prospect after the combine and pre-draft workouts by most of the ESPN and NFL experts, I'd say draft him. I don't know enough about him. And, at one time, I thought Kolb, Skelton, and Lindley would be enough to get us to the Playoffs. I am pretty shell shocked right now.

 

[devilalum]

I don't know if he's NFL good but he is INCREDIBLY accurate. Look at the highlights of his world record game from early in the year. He threw like 50 passes and EVERY one of them was perfect.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=322730277

I don't think the 3 stooges have thrown 50 perfect passes in their lives COMBINED!

 

[D-Dogg]

Throws off his back foot a lot...lofts the ball, impatient in the pocket.

I don't think he'll be a good NFL QB, and definitely not behind a below average line.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Yes, of course he is.




Thats a tough one.

Will be highly dependant on combine, pro days and interviews.




Geno is a fascinating prospect. His deep ball accuracy is the best ive ever seen on any level of FB. His decision making is the only thing I question.

Agree about his deep ball accuraccy, but I don't know if I would question his decision making. The guy has completed over 71% of his passes this year and has only 6 picks on almost 500 passes. He has also never thrown more than 7 picks in any of his 3 seasons as a starter. Sure at least some of that can be chalked up to accuracy, but decision making has to be playing at least a decent role in those numbers.

 

[clif]

I think the guy has immense talent. Watch the tape against lsu. He is a player. I will be interested in seeing more.


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[kerouac9]

Check out the first round of that 2005 draft sometime. If they re-did that draft today, Alex Smith STILL might be a Top 10 pick. What a garbage draft class.

I don't understand this "worthiness" question. Are there 10 impact position players better than Geno Smith in this draft class? I don't know, but I doubt it.

 

[Bodha]

It's a shame you never saw Warren Moon play or that Randall Cunningham guy

Didnt see Moon.

But I have seen Grossman..the magic..

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Agree about his deep ball accuraccy, but I don't know if I would question his decision making. The guy has completed over 71% of his passes this year and has only 6 picks on almost 500 passes. He has also never thrown more than 7 picks in any of his 3 seasons as a starter. Sure at least some of that can be chalked up to accuracy, but decision making has to be playing at least a decent role in those numbers.

He had some really talented WRs.

Would you say Barkely is a stud based on Marquise Lees numbers? matt was the one throwing the ball.

The answer is obviously no because Lee is a freak and makes Matt look better than he is.

Im not saying that applies to Geno, but he does have some very, very good deep ball threat WRs who fit perfectly with the way he plays.


It just so hard to tell with Geno. He not heavily covered by the media. Rarely speaks so its hard to gauge his personality and temperament. Combine is going to be very fun.

 

[DoTheDew]

What we do know about Smith is that he has the physical tools and all indications are that he has a strong work ethic and solid character. I'm fairly confident that he'd be a significant upgrade over Skelton and Lindley and probably over Kolb as well.

As for his worth as a top 10 pick---I don't think he's one of the 10 best players in this draft BUT drafting a QB almost always means passing on more talented players because a good QB wins you more games than a great anything else so teams reach for QBs.

In other words, I think he'd produce more wins for us than anyone else that we know will be in the draft thus far even though some guys like Te'o are probably superior players.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I think the guy has immense talent. Watch the tape against lsu. He is a player. I will be interested in seeing more.


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I didn't really like what I saw against LSU. Except for a very nice throw to Taveon Austin, all of his pass completions were of the 3-8 yard variety. Plus, he doesn't take snaps under center and, as someone mentioned, he throws off his back foot alot. To me, that video caused me even more concern than it did legitimize him.

Watching that video reminded me of another QB that went #1 overall but was a colossal bust, Tim Couch. Couch put up great numbers but all his passes at Kentucky were the short out and slant type passes. This year I have seen Smith throw some nice long balls but he has alot of question marks to him.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Didnt see Moon.

But I have seen Grossman..the magic..

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He had some really talented WRs.

Would you say Barkely is a stud based on Marquise Lees numbers? matt was the one throwing the ball.

The answer is obviously no because Lee is a freak and makes Matt look better than he is.

Im not saying that applies to Geno, but he does have some very, very good deep ball threat WRs who fit perfectly with the way he plays.


It just so hard to tell with Geno. He not heavily covered by the media. Rarely speaks so its hard to gauge his personality and temperament. Combine is going to be very fun.

WR talent obviously matters, but you're comparison to Matt Barkley somewhat proves my assessment. Barkley has the best WR duo in all of college football and yet Geno still has better numbers, especially interception percentage. Also I believe the Cards currently have quite a few guys that are deep threats (Fitz, Roberts and Floyd), but we don't have a QB that can hit them on deep routes.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I didn't really like what I saw against LSU. Except for a very nice throw to Taveon Austin, all of his pass completions were of the 3-8 yard variety. Plus, he doesn't take snaps under center and, as someone mentioned, he throws off his back foot alot. To me, that video caused me even more concern than it did legitimize him.

Watching that video reminded me of another QB that went #1 overall but was a colossal bust, Tim Couch. Couch put up great numbers but all his passes at Kentucky were the short out and slant type passes. This year I have seen Smith throw some nice long balls but he has alot of question marks to him.

I think Smith has a much stronger arm than Couch, I'm just scared by what I have seen when he has been under pressure...his game goes really bad when the pocket does not seem to be secured...and we all know about our pocket

 

[vinnymac]

I have watched one game and Gino didn't impress me. I am going to agree that this isn't a very strong QB class. It is obvious that the Cardinals are going to pick in the top 10. I feel they should go offensive line with the first and second pick. IMO this would make the Cardinals a better team.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

If he is the player you need, and the player you want, then you draft him.

Worrying about reaching, and need, and this and that, is how you come out of a draft, when in a position to get a lot of good players, with Michael "I can't line up correctly or run routes correctly" Floyd.

Horrible pick last year, couldn't think of a player I wanted less.

Cordy Glenn, Chandler Jones, Donte Hightower, and the list goes on.

I don't care what Geno Smith's grades are. If the is 1/2 he QB people talk him up to be, then he is your pick.

It is not a decision of whether he is a top 10 talent, but is he the best player for your team in the top 36 or 39 picks ? Cause after you pick once you have about 31 players going before you pick again.

 

[slinslin]

If he is available for the Cards they must pick him even if it is a reach to some degree. He might not be RGIII in terms of starting immediately and playing a MVP calibre season but he can be their QB of the future.
They still need to sign some sort of veteran QB presence anyway.

 

[Totally_Red]

Don't believe he's a top ten talent and didn't like what I saw in the TX Tech game. Pass.

 

[Mulli]

Check out the first round of that 2005 draft sometime. If they re-did that draft today, Alex Smith STILL might be a Top 10 pick. What a garbage draft class.

I don't understand this "worthiness" question. Are there 10 impact position players better than Geno Smith in this draft class? I don't know, but I doubt it.

True. Except for that QB GB drafted...