Is Kurt Warner the best QB in Cardinal History?

[john h]

I have been watching the Cardinal since 1946 and he is clearly the best I have seen. I do not think any of our former QB's are in the Hall of Fame unless Charlie Trippi who could play QB is considered a QB. Lomax, Hart, Johnson were very good but not Hall of Fame good.

Among my QB's I listed I forget slinging Paul Chrisman who led the 1947 Cards to their only championship in 1947. He was great in his day but players today are bigger, faster, better trained and conditioned and are in shape year around. I saw him on several occasion and he and the Dream Backfield were my heroes as a teen. Jim Hart was my next Cardinal hero. That explosive team in the 60's were not called the Cardiac Cardinals for nothing and had probably the best offensive line we have ever had. Warmer os heads and heels above them all and create the same kind of excitement that Hart did with Sonny Randall and our other receivers.

 

[FrustratedFan04]

I have been watching the Cardinal since 1946 and he is clearly the best I have seen. I do not think any of our former QB's are in the Hall of Fame unless Charlie Trippi who could play QB is considered a QB. Lomax, Hart, Johnson were very good but not Hall of Fame good.

Paul Christman was the "right guy in the right place". Lomax was quite good but Charlie Johnson, Jim Hart and Warner are very, very close.

Hart certainly gets the nod for duration, but there's a lot to be said for Charley Johnson. His knee injury kept us from winning an NFL title and with him at the helm, we beat Bart Starr, Paul Horning and the rest of the Packers, in their hayday, in the now defunct "Play-Off Bowl".

Seeing Johnson pick apart a defense throwing to the likes of Sonny Randel and Bobby Joe Conrad was something to behold.

If results are what counts then Warner's trip to the SB wins hands down.

 

[CaptTurbo]

no question. He may be one of the top 5 that ever played the game.

 

[john h]

Paul Christman was the "right guy in the right place". Lomax was quite good but Charlie Johnson, Jim Hart and Warner are very, very close.

Hart certainly gets the nod for duration, but there's a lot to be said for Charley Johnson. His knee injury kept us from winning an NFL title and with him at the helm, we beat Bart Starr, Paul Horning and the rest of the Packers, in their hayday, in the now defunct "Play-Off Bowl".

Seeing Johnson pick apart a defense throwing to the likes of Sonny Randel and Bobby Joe Conrad was something to behold.

If results are what counts then Warner's trip to the SB wins hands down.

Your comparison of Hart and Warmer is very insightful. Both are pocket QB's with strong accurate arms with quick releases. Neither could scramble and knew out to remain in the pocket under pressure. I suspect their size is close other than Warner is probably 2" taller.
Both came out of nowhere. Hart was a backup and Warner was not in the NFL. Both walked into situations with good receivers. I got as excited watching the early 60's Cards as I do watching Kurt today. Randall and Conrad were spectacular receivers. Beating Starr and Hornung was indeed a star on our wall. Dr. Charlie Johnson, as I recall, came along out of nowhere and is a QB worth remembering. Since Lomax went down we have suffered for a QB for to many years. Of course the Bidwills would not spend money and no one wanted to play in our hot outdated stadium. We have come a long way.

 

[Indiana Hoosier]

Jim Hart, Neil Lomax, Charley Johnson, Charley Trippi to name a few. (But he ain"t Bad. (from the old "FART")

 

[FrustratedFan04]

Johnson after the NFL:

Charley Lane Johnson (born November 22, 1938) is a former quarterback in the NFL. During his 15-year career he played for 3 teams; the St. Louis Cardinals, Houston Oilers, and Denver Broncos. During his collegiate career at New Mexico State he became the only person to date to be named Most Valuable Player of the Sun Bowl in consecutive years, winning the award in 1959 and 1960. He is a member of the NMSU Sports Hall of Fame and is the only player in the history of the NMSU football program to have his jersey number (33) retired. He was named to the NFL Pro Bowl in 1963 and is a member of the Denver Broncos Ring of Fame. An engineering major at NMSU, Johnson continued his academic pursuits during his NFL career and obtained Master's and Doctoral degrees in Chemical Engineering from Washington University in St. Louis while concurrently playing in the NFL. He is currently a professor of Chemical Engineering at his alma mater, New Mexico State University.

 

[gamebird98]

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