Is there a Plan B?

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Just wondering what Plan B was and when it will be implemented. Mgmt did a nice job on courting LMA but it was always a long shot as most thought the Spurs would be his destination. Maybe those players that were part of Plan B have already been signed while the Suns were in a wait mode on LMA making a decision.
I do like the Chandler signing and the dump of players especially getting rid of Marcus. But the Suns will still have a tough time making the playoffs with their current roster.
 

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Just wondering what Plan B was and when it will be implemented. Mgmt did a nice job on courting LMA but it was always a long shot as most thought the Spurs would be his destination. Maybe those players that were part of Plan B have already been signed while the Suns were in a wait mode on LMA making a decision.
I do like the Chandler signing and the dump of players especially getting rid of Marcus. But the Suns will still have a tough time making the playoffs with their current roster.

Unless the Suns can make a trade, I think the Suns will fill up their roster with lower salary players so they can make a move near the trade deadline or next season. I fear the Suns may have had an all or nothing plan going after Aldridge. They should reevaluate this strategy next season. I don't think the Suns should have let Aldridge tie their hands while other good players were being signed. IMO, the best chance the Suns have of getting a real good player is doing a trade.
 

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I think at the end of the day we all know what is best for this franchise to get back to consistent winnings and that is building through the draft which would mean Suns unload bledsoe, knight, and chandler which we are clearly not doing.

Even aldridge would have made the Suns a 4th seed at best.

The only teams that can build through free agency a chanpionship team are the big markets.

They only have three players which can be part of a championship future and thats Len, Morris, and maybe Booker. Unfortunately they just stunted the growth of one of them with the Chandler signing (Len).

Hate to be a doom guy as im usually completely bias toward my teams but the Suns are headed to .500 seasons for the next 5 years which will keep adding mediocre players in the draft, log jams of mediocre players at positions, that will eventually lead to medicre players leaving and Suns never acquiring any star potential.

TANK is the only option.
 
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They should reevaluate this strategy next season. I don't think the Suns should have let Aldridge tie their hands while other good players were being signed. IMO, the best chance the Suns have of getting a real good player is doing a trade.

Agree, Kevin Durant may be a free agent next year. He is not coming to Phoenix.
 

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I think at the end of the day we all know what is best for this franchise to get back to consistent winnings and that is building through the draft which would mean Suns unload bledsoe, knight, and chandler which we are clearly not doing.

Even aldridge would have made the Suns a 4th seed at best.

The only teams that can build through free agency a chanpionship team are the big markets.

They only have three players which can be part of a championship future and thats Len, Morris, and maybe Booker. Unfortunately they just stunted the growth of one of them with the Chandler signing (Len).

Hate to be a doom guy as im usually completely bias toward my teams but the Suns are headed to .500 seasons for the next 5 years which will keep adding mediocre players in the draft, log jams of mediocre players at positions, that will eventually lead to medicre players leaving and Suns never acquiring any star potential.

TANK is the only option.

Tanking does not guarantee success. The Suns best chance is that Bledsoe, Knight, Warren and Len take off and then they find a trade that gets them a player that they need to be good.
 

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San Antoniot tanked for Duncan that is how everything started and previously had the Admiral.

Cleveland had 4 #1picks in the last 10 years..

And the Suns have never had a #1 pick which doesn't help.
 

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same with GS.
I equate Golden State's success to the year the Suns drafted a Center (who played for the Suns coach in college) and his 212 lbs. took the league by surprise. It was a long, long time before they reached the Finals again. Their only other time.

Let's see where the 6'7" Center philosophy of Golden State takes them by the end of next season. At least, they have a basketball Championship banner hanging in their arena.

Yes, the Suns have three. :)
 

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And the Suns have never had a #1 pick which doesn't help.

It's been a while since the Suns even had a top 3 pick. Our only top 5 pick came in what everyone believes to be one of the worst drafts in the history of the game.
 

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It's been a while since the Suns even had a top 3 pick. Our only top 5 pick came in what everyone believes to be one of the worst drafts in the history of the game.

In 1969 the Suns drafted Neal walk #2 after losing a coin flip to the Bucks for then named Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar) who was drafted #1.

In the 1987 NBA draft the Suns drafted Armon Gilliam #2 after losing a coin flip to the Spurs for the right to draft David Robinson #1.

The Suns have an historical record for bad luck.
 

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Starting Bledsoe, Chandler, and Knight is a great start. We don't have to rebuild from scratch. We need one dominant scoring forward, and one guy to be a defensive stud and glass cleaner. Aldridge would have made us top contenders right away. Now, we wait another year.
 

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Gotta keep Keef. He's too much value at 8m and there's no one available that can make a big difference. Use half the cap space to sign Amare as a backup, use the rest for a 3rd pg and filler.

Hope dumping Marcus doesn't hurt us too much, he improved a lot last year.
 

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Gotta keep Keef. He's too much value at 8m and there's no one available that can make a big difference. Use half the cap space to sign Amare as a backup, use the rest for a 3rd pg and filler.

Hope dumping Marcus doesn't hurt us too much, he improved a lot last year.

I'm not sure about Markieff as there may be some bad feelings about his brother being traded. However, Ryan Anderson could help the Suns as a stretch 4. There does not seem to be a lot of options out there. Maybe trade Markieff and/or Tucker for Ryan Anderson and then sign Jordon Hill.
 
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Not much optimism with any of the responses. Unless the young players really gel looks like another just missed the playoffs season.
 

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San Antonio and Cleveland seem to be doing a good job of it.

Clevland had a guy by the name of Lebron who was from the city, completely an anomolie situation...

San Antonio drafted their entire core, they sinply added a piece.
 

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Starting Bledsoe, Chandler, and Knight is a great start. We don't have to rebuild from scratch. We need one dominant scoring forward, and one guy to be a defensive stud and glass cleaner. Aldridge would have made us top contenders right away. Now, we wait another year.[/QUOTE

I appreciate your optimism but that elite scorer is not on the roster, wont be found in picking the middle of the draft, and they cant afford to pay one. Even if they can pay one, there are only 3-5 guys who fit the bill and they arent coming here: Steph, KD, russel, love etc..

Of course there is the Tom Brady 1/3583839 situation that the Suns get lucky...
 
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So...an 8th seed playoff team picking 15th in next years draft with still no one player to build around?
[yawn]

This...

Look at the top teams rosters: GS, san antonio, clevland etc. the suns are 2 superstars and 3 very good players away from stacking up with those teams talent-wise.

It sickens me that the Lakers already have 2 guys to potentially build around and they have done it in less than 5 years. If i was a Lakers fan, id be excited about the upcoming season already.
 

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The doom and gloom around here is ridiculous.

You never really know what you have until you get the playoffs. All of the main players are 25 and under. I don't see how people can say what the extent of their career will be at this point.

Like life the journey is supposed to be the fun part. GS just reached the top of the mountain but as of July 1st they are starting the season over just like everyone else. Well they stay healthy and get the same bounced next year? Who knows? That is why they play the games.
 

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And the Suns have never had a #1 pick which doesn't help.

It appears this team has had a philosophy to get competitive as soon as possible versus letting us bottom out and getting a shot at one of those players. I would love to get a shot at the next franchise level player. At least it's a shot.
 

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Plan B's are good and all, because we all want to "Do Something!"

But you have to be really careful not to "do something" when any of the "somethings" you can do are worse than "do nothing."

To me, the best option I have seen is give the ball to Booker, Len, Archie, and Warren and let them play. We really are not in that bad of shape as far as a team that is rebuilding.

We have two guards who clearly have all-star potential.
We have a young center who defends and scores and could be special, much more than a role player.
We have a young SF that everyone here believes has all-star potential but is not nearly as close as Bledsoe and Knight.
We have a rookie 2 that was the best shooter in the draft. Who knows, because we have not ever seen him in a pro contest, but he will be fun to follow.
We have another young guard in Archie who could break out at any moment and we know that if he develops an outside shot, the sky is the limit.
 
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