It's time for the Cards to sign Hakim

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Nothing would send a bigger message to the Boldin and the crap he is pulling. And I don't want to hear how the Cards didn't offer him a nice sum because everbody knows they did and Rosenhaus just wants to stroke himself. No, Az Hakim isn't as good as Boldin but he would fit well enough with Fitz and Johnson. If Boldin signs, great. Regardless,a veteran option on kick-off and punt returns would be nice.
 

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I'd like us to get a vet WR. Green talks about having depth on the roster to push the starters, and WR is the only position where this isn't happening. We need a 4th WR to push Johnson, and for insurance if Boldin decides to be a selfish baby and hold out into training camp.
 

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Az Hakim IS only a 4th receiver in ability, but he wants to be a #1. I don't think he would sign to be a kick returner. Maybe I am wrong, butI have never been impressed by the guy.
 

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Jetstream Green said:
Nothing would send a bigger message to the Boldin and the crap he is pulling. And I don't want to hear how the Cards didn't offer him a nice sum because everbody knows they did and Rosenhaus just wants to stroke himself. No, Az Hakim isn't as good as Boldin but he would fit well enough with Fitz and Johnson. If Boldin signs, great. Regardless,a veteran option on kick-off and punt returns would be nice.


I wouldn't be surprised to see this happen. Rowan and Warner are familiar with him from St. Louis and he would be a nice option for a slot receiver. It just depends on how much he's asking for.
 

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#1 reciever no, but the Rams never where as good without him. Extremley dangerous after the catch. Warner knows what he can do.AZhim could handle
a nickel back. Get him in, earlier the better.
 

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Syracusecards said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see this happen. Rowan and Warner are familiar with him from St. Louis and he would be a nice option for a slot receiver. It just depends on how much he's asking for.

I am still wondering if we are willing to part with anymore of our money. I still have the sense the Bidwills need the cash flow after being the only team in the NFL to lose money. I strongly suspect we will start the new season with a lot of CAP money intentionally not spent. It may not be a matter of being cheap but pure econnomics on the Bidwills part.
 

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john h said:
I am still wondering if we are willing to part with anymore of our money. I still have the sense the Bidwills need the cash flow after being the only team in the NFL to lose money. I strongly suspect we will start the new season with a lot of CAP money intentionally not spent. It may not be a matter of being cheap but pure econnomics on the Bidwills part.

After subtracting the price for rookies and, perhaps, a 2 million contingency for in season pickups, the Cards are relatively 3 million in the black.

This hardly makes your point....
 

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Crazy Canuck said:
After subtracting the price for rookies and, perhaps, a 2 million contingency for in season pickups, the Cards are relatively 3 million in the black.

This hardly makes your point....
Just because a team hasn't spent to the cap it doesn't mean they are "in the black".
 

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Renz said:
Just because a team hasn't spent to the cap it doesn't mean they are "in the black".
Are you saying you believe the Cards aren't making money?
 

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:cool: Also isn't there still one major FA signing time after June 1? Can any of you Gentlemen tell if the Cards[meaning DG] signed anyone last year after june 1st? I agree that a veteran KR would be a major boost what with all the youngsters we had this past weekend at WR..GOCARDS!!! :newcards: :fans: 8)
 

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CronosCard said:
:cool: Also isn't there still one major FA signing time after June 1? Can any of you Gentlemen tell if the Cards[meaning DG] signed anyone last year after june 1st? I agree that a veteran KR would be a major boost what with all the youngsters we had this past weekend at WR..GOCARDS!!! :newcards: :fans: 8)

Post June 1st is hardly a major signing time. Every year, big names will supposedly be cut after June 1st, and every year, it fails to happen. No use counting on it as a second FA period.
 

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CronosCard said:
:cool: Also isn't there still one major FA signing time after June 1? Can any of you Gentlemen tell if the Cards[meaning DG] signed anyone last year after june 1st? I agree that a veteran KR would be a major boost what with all the youngsters we had this past weekend at WR..GOCARDS!!! :newcards: :fans: 8)

I believe David Macklin was a post June 1 signing.

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abomb said:
I believe David Macklin was a post June 1 signing.

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We signed Macklin before the draft, I think. Even if Macklin was a post June first signing, I'm absolutely sure he wasn't cut on June 1st. He was one of the first guys we contacted.
 

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Pariah said:
Are you saying you believe the Cards aren't making money?

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Clearing profit in the NFL is as easy as falling forward, thanks to a $2.6-billion-a-year TV contract that is split evenly among all 32 teams and a cap that limits player salaries to 65% of revenues. Last season the average NFL team earned a profit (before depreciation, interest and taxes) of $26.6 million. But the Arizona Cardinals last year ran a loss of $4.9 million, the first for any team in the past three seasons. Owner William Bidwill, whose father, Charles, bought the franchise for $50,000 in 1932, has proven that if you field a poor team and have a lousy stadium deal, you can lose money. The Cardinals have won just one playoff game in 50 years. Since 1985 they have had only one season with a winning record. Last year the team won only 4 games out of 16. Attendance last year at the 8 games played at home in Tempe, Ariz. totaled 288,000, or 140,000 fewer than for the next-lowest team. Most Sundays a third of the seats are empty. Bidwill has had four different head coaches in ten years. That kind of turmoil makes it difficult to draw and retain star players. When Bidwill moved the Cards from St. Louis to Arizona State University's football stadium in 1988, he got what was at the time a good lease.

But stadium economics have changed rapidly in the NFL over the past decade, and now the Cardinals have one of the worst leases in the league. They are forced to share stadium revenues from parking and concessions with the college; most NFL teams pocket millions of dollars more than the Cardinals. They pulled in just $3 million in suite revenue last year, while other teams average four times as much. All told the Cardinals took in $130 million last season, $36 million less than the NFL average. Bidwill's birds, though they are the lowest-value team in the NFL, still are worth, we calculate, $552 million to a buyer who knows what to do with the assets. Profits should improve: The taxpayers of Arizona have generously agreed to build a new cash-spewing stadium in Glendale for the 2006 season.

They did in 03
 

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Solar7 said:
We signed Macklin before the draft, I think. Even if Macklin was a post June first signing, I'm absolutely sure he wasn't cut on June 1st. He was one of the first guys we contacted.

My bad. Here are the June 1 and after transactions;

2004-08-03 The Cardinals signed free agent wide receiver FABIAN DAVIS.
2004-08-01 The Cards waived Pete Kendall and Kendrick Rogers.
2004-07-30 The Cardinals signed veteran offensive lineman Everett Lindsay. The Cards also waived defensive lineman Brian Montesanto.
2004-06-24 The Cards signed DT Nate Hobgood-Chittick and released P Ryan Downes.
2004-06-15 The Cards signed Brian Montesanto.
2004-06-08 The Cards signed QB Chris Lewis.
2004-06-07 The Cards signed cornerbacks Clarence Curry and Tyrone Sanders.
2004-06-01 The Arizona Cardinals released defensive tackle Marcus Bell, tight end Steve Bush, safety Justin Lucas, quarterback Preston Parsons, and defensive tackle Barron Tanner.
2004-08-05 The Cards signed OT Quinn Christensen.
 

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Renz said:
Just because a team hasn't spent to the cap it doesn't mean they are "in the black".

We were discussing the budget for football operations, not the state of the private corporation owned by the Bidwill's. How they report overall income and expenditures is a separate matter.
 

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abomb said:
My bad. Here are the June 1 and after transactions;

2004-08-03 The Cardinals signed free agent wide receiver FABIAN DAVIS.
2004-08-01 The Cards waived Pete Kendall and Kendrick Rogers.
2004-07-30 The Cardinals signed veteran offensive lineman Everett Lindsay. The Cards also waived defensive lineman Brian Montesanto.
2004-06-24 The Cards signed DT Nate Hobgood-Chittick and released P Ryan Downes.
2004-06-15 The Cards signed Brian Montesanto.
2004-06-08 The Cards signed QB Chris Lewis.
2004-06-07 The Cards signed cornerbacks Clarence Curry and Tyrone Sanders.
2004-06-01 The Arizona Cardinals released defensive tackle Marcus Bell, tight end Steve Bush, safety Justin Lucas, quarterback Preston Parsons, and defensive tackle Barron Tanner.
2004-08-05 The Cards signed OT Quinn Christensen.

Wow. How we ended up 6-10 is beyond me with this infusion of talent. :sarcasm:
 

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The reason the Cards lost money or had low profits the last few years was to pay for their part of the new stadium. If they didn't have that, they would have made money as usual.
 

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Arizona taxpayers?

It seems to be unclear to those who try to find a way get in their digs on the Bidwills and the Zonies who arranged for the new stadium to be built with TAX DOLLARS...except for the fact that the taxes are being collected from NON-ZONIES for the most part because it comes STRICTLY from VISITOR-RELATED revenues... we get a new stadium and all the poor bastards who live in garbage states needing a reprieve from their place of residence get to build it for us.:cheers:
 

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Heres a name for you. How about Freddie Mitchell? He has not quite lived up to his billing but I would think he'd be a better pick up than Hakim.

Has a knock of being an "I" guy so he probably wouldn't be a good fit.
 

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slanidrac16 said:
Heres a name for you. How about Freddie Mitchell? He has not quite lived up to his billing but I would think he'd be a better pick up than Hakim.

Has a knock of being an "I" guy so he probably wouldn't be a good fit.

:thud:

Please, no. Anyone but Mitchell. His biggest problem in Philly was that he wasn't getting enough time. With Fitz, BJ, and hopefully Quan in the fray, how happy is he going to be to be stuck at #4? He has some talent, but I still wouldn't say it's that much more than a Hakim. At least Az has a repetoire with Warner, some good speed, and the ability to return kicks.

Say no to Freddie Mitchell.
 

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All we need is a #4 reciever who is quick, does their job, and doesn't complain about it. We need Freddie Mitchell as bad as we need Karl Williams now.
 

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