It's Time to Draft A QB #1

[SMAC]

Of the 32 teams in the NFL, only 4 teams have not chosen a quarterback since the Cards last took a QB in the first round of the regular draft. The last time the Cardinals chose a QB in the opening round it was the awful Kelly Stouffer selection in 1987 (we passed on Rod Woodson that year). The only teams to go longer than the Cardinals in this category are:

Dolphins-Dan Marino (83)
Chiefs-Todd Blackledge (83)
Saints-Archie Manning (71)
Rams-Bill Munson (64)

With the possibility that maybe Young and probably Cutler being available at number 10, it's time the Cardinals address the QB position with a "young gun." Warner will serve as a good interim candidate this year, but a young long-term solution is sorely needed. The Cardinals over the years have relied too much on past prime leaders such as: Cliff Stoudt, Gary Hogeboom, Kent Graham, Jeff Blake, Jim McMahon, Jay Schroeder, and a "cast of thousands." It's time Cardinal fans for the team to select a signal caller number 1. Young and/or Cutler if there at number 10 is worthy of the pick.

 

[Pariah]

I think it's time, too...but not because it's been so long since we have.

I think it's time because we're (hopefully) not going to get the chance to draft a guy of Jay Cutler's promise again for a while and if we continue to wait then Fitz and Boldin will be adjusting to a new QB every two years because we'll have to bring in aging retreads who will A) get hurt (and then backup players will have to take the reigns) and B) retire.

We need a young guy who will stabilize the positon for the forseeable future, IMO.

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

I agree 100%. We've passed on Leftwich, Roethlesberger, Aaron Rogers the last 3 drafts. Its time.

 

[Solar7]

Put me officially in the QB camp as well. Preferably Vince Young.

 

[Assface]

Even if we don't get a QB in the first I hope that whoever we get is someone with some real potential. We need a guy who's already a solid passer because the athletic guys rarely develope that. If you look at the late round QBs who've become successfull one thing they have in common is that they're passers, not athletic projects who finally learned to win with their arm.

As has been pointed out in the past, DG almost always takes a QB at some point in the draft. To the best of my recollection he drafted one almost every year in Minnesota.

 

[TheCardFan]

Of the 32 teams in the NFL, only 4 teams have not chosen a quarterback since the Cards last took a QB in the first round of the regular draft. The last time the Cardinals chose a QB in the opening round it was the awful Kelly Stouffer selection in 1987 (we passed on Rod Woodson that year).

We are probably the only team out of 32 that would have picked Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning.

 

[seesred]

I think Croyle fits the bill in round 3-4. Unless Young is there! I'm not so sure that Cutler is that much better than Brodie.

GBR
40

 

[Skkorpion]

Ash on 910 today reported that the Jets had Cutler in for a long visit yesterday.

 

[joeshmo]

Ash on 910 today reported that the Jets had Cutler in for a long visit yesterday.

Dont read to much into that.

They also have long visits planned for Leinart and Young in the next few days or so. They also have a visit planned for that Clemons kid from Oregon as well.

 

[football karma]

They did take Timm Rosenbach in the first round of the supplemental draft in 1989--

somewhat of a forgotten turning point in the franchise: Rosenbach played pretty well in his second season (1990 as I recall). After training camp the next year, but before the last regular season game, Rosenbach blows his knee out in a non-contact walk through.

Tom Tupa ends up being the Cards starting QB. Too bad -- that 91 squad had potential.

Rosenbach is never the same -- goes from gunslinger to frightened Qb.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I just read this great article by John Clayton about the percentages of success of highy drafted QB's who do get thrown into the fire right away (almost no success the first year and many never amount to anything after that) and those highly drafted guys who get to sit for a year or two (percentage were alot higher for success)

This is why we have to get our guy THIS YEAR. If we want the kid to succeed let him mentor behind Warner (a great role model and leader) learn the offense, and get spot starts when Warner gets injured to get his feet wet. It really is the perfect situation for a green QB and i like all the three of the guys available.

If Cutler and/or Young are available, i say thats the pick.....

 

[Assface]

I just read this great article by John Clayton about the percentages of success of highy drafted QB's who do get thrown into the fire right away (almost no success the first year and many never amount to anything after that) and those highly drafted guys who get to sit for a year or two (percentage were alot higher for success)

This is why we have to get our guy THIS YEAR. If we want the kid to succeed let him mentor behind Warner (a great role model and leader) learn the offense, and get spot starts when Warner gets injured to get his feet wet. It really is the perfect situation for a green QB and i like all the three of the guys available.

If Cutler and/or Young are available, i say thats the pick.....

Yup, it's better to draft a QB when he has a chance to learn instead of when you NEED one. I don't want the season depending on a rookie QB but I would be happy with a 2nd or 3rd year QB leading the team.

With the 2 best players on our team both at WR I think it's very important to have a QB who can get them the ball. We also need stability at the position so we know what to expect year in and year out.

 

[Evil Ash]

Draft a QB if he's BPA. If not, don't

Don't take a position for the sake of taking a position

 

[clif]

Draft a QB please!

 

[Capital Card]

Draft a QB if he's BPA. If not, don't

Don't take a position for the sake of taking a position

Exactly!!!

 

[Redsz]

Draft a QB if he's BPA. If not, don't

Don't take a position for the sake of taking a position

Yup, otherwise you end up like SF with Alex Smith.

 

[Stout]

Draft a QB if he's BPA. If not, don't

Don't take a position for the sake of taking a position

Ding!

I think if one of the 3 QBs fall, they'll DEFINITELY head our board.

 

[Evil Ash]

Ding!

I think if one of the 3 QBs fall, they'll DEFINITELY head our board.

Leinart and Young, yes. Cutler, maybe

 

[Stout]

Leinart and Young, yes. Cutler, maybe

I actually don't think Leinart's one of them. I think it would be Cutler and Young, yes. Leinart, maybe. Denny has liked big armed QBs, and he's like athletic QBs. Leinart is neither. Cutler has the big arm and Leinart doesn't, whatever their other talents. Of course, that's not gospel. JMHO.

 

[Indiana Hoosier]

I would love to see us get Cutler. I just do not see him lasting that long.

 

[sundevilscott]

As much as I would want any of the 3 QBs I just do not see any of them being there.

 

[JeffGollin]

If a Top 3 QB is available at #10, I think we'll draft one. But it's looking less and less as if any of them will be available when we pick.

Today we had the rumor that the Raidiz wanted to trade up to #2 to grab Leinart. Tennessee at #3 is likely to draft either Cutler or Young. It's not unlikely that some other team below us will try to trade ahead of us to get what possibly could turn out to be the remaining one of the three.

I'd say our chances of landing a QBOF at #10 is, at best, 50%.

And, no, I don't think we should trade way picks to move up to get one.

Quite probably, the 3 QB's, Bush, M Williams, Ferguson, V Davis, Hawk and Huff will be off the board with the first nine picks. MJ has earmarked Justice and Sims a likely draft picks should we stay at #10 and make the pick.

I'd respectfully add Bunkley to that short list (because he precisely fits DG's definition of a "penetrating NT", he'd solidify the middle of our defense with depth for once and for all and he's a 305 lb low-risk (high motor) guy with size, strength, explosiveness, athleticism and desire. (And because Darnell and Q are probably pimping him).

 

[MastersofCombat]

Actually didnt we take Stouffer in the supplemental draft which is after the real draft?
That doesnt count as a real 1st round pick.....
Thats like trading away a future 1st round pick to obtain a person

 

[Bada0Bing]

Of the 32 teams in the NFL, only 4 teams have not chosen a quarterback since the Cards last took a QB in the first round of the regular draft. The last time the Cardinals chose a QB in the opening round it was the awful Kelly Stouffer selection in 1987 (we passed on Rod Woodson that year). The only teams to go longer than the Cardinals in this category are:

Dolphins-Dan Marino (83)
Chiefs-Todd Blackledge (83)
Saints-Archie Manning (71)
Rams-Bill Munson (64)

With the possibility that maybe Young and probably Cutler being available at number 10, it's time the Cardinals address the QB position with a "young gun." Warner will serve as a good interim candidate this year, but a young long-term solution is sorely needed. The Cardinals over the years have relied too much on past prime leaders such as: Cliff Stoudt, Gary Hogeboom, Kent Graham, Jeff Blake, Jim McMahon, Jay Schroeder, and a "cast of thousands." It's time Cardinal fans for the team to select a signal caller number 1. Young and/or Cutler if there at number 10 is worthy of the pick.

I find this stat totally irrelevant. I think you need to judge each draft individually and draft accordingly.

The Rams won a superbowl a few years ago, so maybe they know something that most teams don’t?

 

[SMAC]

My contention about not taking a QB in nearly 20 years in the first round is that it is generally considered the most important position in the NFL. We certainly know that starting QB's make the most money. The Cards have passed on available quarterbacks in the first round in the pass few years players like: Ben Roethlisberger or Byron Leftwich. Since 1987, here are the positions the Cards have drafted number 1:

QB-0
RB-2
WR-3
TE-0
OL-3
DL-5
LB-3
DB-2