Jamal Crawford/Quentin Richardson over Steve Nash/Brent Barry!

[slinslin]

I would rather take my chances with a young stud like Crawford than Nash who Cuban will certainly overpay.

True Crawford's shooting percentages were not good this season. Very Baron Davis like. He doesn't always take good shots and was very streaky.

But he is tall, long and athletic for a PG and has shown he can play off the ball as well.
He is definately not a true PG but enough so that he would match up well with JJ.

He is like a smaller poor man's TMac and he is exciting.

I would rather offer slighly more than the MLE, 5M$, on Crawford than Steve Nash.

I would also consider Quentin Richardson. Play JJ at PG offensively and Quentin Richardson who is a big short but strong on PGs defensively.

 

[slinslin]

Sign Crawford, Thomas and Swift at each slightly over the MLE. Or Richardson if you can't get one of them.

C- Etan Thomas
-------------------- F/C Stromile Swift, Maciej Lampe, Jake Voshkul
PF- Amare Stoudemire
SF- Shawn Marion/Zarko Cabarkapa
--------------------G/F Trevor Ariza or other 2nd round pick
SG- Joe Johnson/Casey Jacobsen
PG- Jamal Crawford/Leandro Barbosa

 

[George O'Brien]

I would think that I would like at least ONE of your proposals. I think Crawford is horribly overrated and Richardson shoots 39.8% from the field. If we wanted someone who shoots bricks, Eisley will do just fine.

 

[JerkFace]

i'm still leaning towards just sitting on the money. last year taught me that having alot of cap space during the season is a very good thing (ie. utah, atlanta)

 

[slinslin]

Look what happened to James Posey this year when he got out of Denver.

He was Memphis MVP according to their fans.

 

[Mainstreet]

I like Steve Nash as a player, but let's not tie up big money in a 30 year old PG. He's not the answer for the Suns at what would be a high asking price.

 

[B-Dogg]

What about Etan Thomas, he is physical he can play center against everyone but shaq and yao... but thats everyone else in the league, he would be reasonable priced is a good defender good rebounder...

 

[George O'Brien]

What about Etan Thomas, he is physical he can play center against everyone but shaq and yao... but thats everyone else in the league, he would be reasonable priced is a good defender good rebounder...

That's the rub. He is only 6'10" although he is a good shot blocker. But in any case, it will depend on the price. It always depends on the price unless talking about a super star (then it's a question of chemistry )

 

[slinslin]

Lets look at the RFA's of the 2000 draft class. They are just done with their rookie contracts and good players that can still get better and become bargains eventually.

Signing 30yr olds means signing players on the decline who will ultimately end up as overpaid veterans in a couple of years.

Stromile Swift
Darius Miles
Jamal Crawford
Quentin Richardson
Etan Thomas
Morris Peterson
Courtney Alexander
Chris Mihm
Marcus Fizer UFA (x-draft)
Kenyon Martin

 

[slinslin]

That's the rub. He is only 6'10" although he is a good shot blocker. But in any case, it will depend on the price. It always depends on the price unless talking about a super star (then it's a question of chemistry )

Compared to last season he would be a major upgrade over Jahidi.

 

[B-Dogg]

Another option is the availability of Vince Carter, obvisouly he doesnt have the trade value McGrady does, so he would cost us alot less, and he would fill the seats at America West, but he is available, still has star power and is still young enough to fit in with the nucleus the Suns are building...

 

[JerkFace]

Another option is the availability of Vince Carter, obvisouly he doesnt have the trade value McGrady does, so he would cost us alot less, and he would fill the seats at America West, but he is available, still has star power and is still young enough to fit in with the nucleus the Suns are building...

paul pierce is another interesting name floating around out there. i'd trade marion and jacobson for pierce.

 

[George O'Brien]

Compared to last season he would be a major upgrade over Jahidi.

I want to go after E Thomas. My point is that he is not going to be as "cheap" as some people seem to imagine and I really doubt the Wizzards will fail to match.

 

[elindholm]

I think Crawford is horribly overrated and Richardson shoots 39.8% from the field. If we wanted someone who shoots bricks, Eisley will do just fine.

Do you seriously think Richardson isn't more appealing than Eisley? A third of his attempts are three-pointers and he makes a good percentage of them; that pulls his overall FG% down. He has battled injuries the last two years and seems to have an attitude problem (which is why I'd be wary of him), but he's a good player.

At this point I'm all for going after Swift and Etan Thomas. If the Suns make plays for both, they might get one. I'm less sure about Crawford, but I agree that he'd be preferable to Nash.

 

[slinslin]

At the risk of getting the Tony Delk quotes again.

Crawford had a 50 AND 42 point game this season.

6.5 of his 16.5 FGA per game 3-pointers(thats 39.5% out of his shots) which explains his FG%.

 

[elindholm]

Crawford had a 50 AND 42 point game this season.

No, no Tony Delk quotes this time. But you understand about averages, right? If you have two players with the same average, and one of them has some huge games, it means that the rest of his games are less good than the other guy's. Do you want consistency, or someone who puts up one great game a month and is subpar for the rest of them?

 

[slinslin]

I can overlook consistency a bit when talking about someone who just turned 24 this year and has missed alot of his rookie and sophomore seasons.

The most important thing about Crawford is that he missed just 4 games in the last 2 years.

 

[George O'Brien]

I can overlook consistency a bit when talking about someone who just turned 24 this year and has missed alot of his rookie and sophomore seasons.

The most important thing about Crawford is that he missed just 4 games in the last 2 years.

He's an RFA. If Chicago is willing to let him go, doesn't that tell you something?

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

He's an RFA. If Chicago is willing to let him go, doesn't that tell you something?

Yah, Chicago is a mess.

 

[slinslin]

He's an RFA. If Chicago is willing to let him go, doesn't that tell you something?

Chicago can't afford him it looks like after they send us 3M$ cash and acquired another pick. Especially if they take Gordon at #3 they are very unlikely to match Crawford.

 

[George O'Brien]

Chicago can't afford him it looks like after they send us 3M$ cash and acquired another pick. Especially if they take Gordon at #3 they are very unlikely to match Crawford.

If Crawford is so great, why wouldn't they?

 

[scotsman13]

I would think that I would like at least ONE of your proposals. I think Crawford is horribly overrated and Richardson shoots 39.8% from the field. If we wanted someone who shoots bricks, Eisley will do just fine.

hehe i was just thinking that i would rather have eisley then crawford myself.

i am beginning to worder slin has a termal case of the grass is always greener.

etan thomas looks like he might be a nice player he is a little short at 6'10 to deal with some western centers and is still young being only 26.

crawford on the otherhand has been a cancer on his team for a long time now. i am not a big fan of taking other teams cancers. crawford sure wouldnt fit this team better then nash for a running game. and he has missed more game that nash has over the past 2 years. so do we want a point guard who is more concerned about his own scoring then that of the team? nash would run the team and make sure they are going in the right direct.

 

[B-Dogg]

Etan Thomas Stats... he has gotten better every year...

CAREER SHOOTING STATS

SEASON TEAM G MIN FG FGA FG% FG3 FG3A FG3% FT FTA FT% PTS AVG
2001-02 Was. 47 618 81 151 53.6 0 0 0.0 41 74 55.4 203 4.3
2002-03 Was. 38 513 61 124 49.2 0 0 0.0 60 94 63.8 182 4.8
2003-04 Was. 79 1901 257 526 48.9 0 0 0.0 191 295 64.7 705 8.9
TOTAL 164 3032 399 801 49.8 0 0 0.0 292 463 63.1 1090 6.6


MORE STATS

SEASON TEAM G MIN REB RAVG A AAVG STL SAVG BLK BAVG
2001-02 Was. 47 618 181 3.9 6 0.1 17 0.4 35 0.7
2002-03 Was. 38 513 165 4.3 3 0.1 8 0.2 23 0.6
2003-04 Was. 79 1901 528 6.7 68 0.9 36 0.5 123 1.6
TOTAL 164 3032 874 5.3 77 0.5 61 0.4 181 1.1

 

[Chaplin]

Etan Thomas Stats... he has gotten better every year...

CAREER SHOOTING STATS

SEASON TEAM G MIN FG FGA FG% FG3 FG3A FG3% FT FTA FT% PTS AVG
2001-02 Was. 47 618 81 151 53.6 0 0 0.0 41 74 55.4 203 4.3
2002-03 Was. 38 513 61 124 49.2 0 0 0.0 60 94 63.8 182 4.8
2003-04 Was. 79 1901 257 526 48.9 0 0 0.0 191 295 64.7 705 8.9
TOTAL 164 3032 399 801 49.8 0 0 0.0 292 463 63.1 1090 6.6


MORE STATS

SEASON TEAM G MIN REB RAVG A AAVG STL SAVG BLK BAVG
2001-02 Was. 47 618 181 3.9 6 0.1 17 0.4 35 0.7
2002-03 Was. 38 513 165 4.3 3 0.1 8 0.2 23 0.6
2003-04 Was. 79 1901 528 6.7 68 0.9 36 0.5 123 1.6
TOTAL 164 3032 874 5.3 77 0.5 61 0.4 181 1.1

Yuck!

Overrated much? Especially on this board!

 

[B-Dogg]

Yuck!

Overrated much? Especially on this board!

Id rather have Etan for somewhere around the MLE than Okur for 7-8Mil a year... or I'd rather have Stromile or a list of about 10 other players