James Bettcher = Fat Billy Davis

[Bert]

My only complaint with Betcher is that he just leans on the blitzing crutch too much. Sometimes, and seriouly, just sometimes it's ok to just rush 4 and drop everyone back in coverage. I mean, we never really made Bridgewater drop back and be a QB, almost everything they got was short stuff over the middle and screens, taking advantage of the soft underbelly that comes from blitzing everyone and dropping the rest deep into coverage.

He's just got to widen the repertoire a little which I imagine will come with experience. I get it man, I play madden, it's hard not to call a blitz all the time. You're always thinking if they can just get there this drive is over! lol

Better LB's would also help. You know, like the guy that Dwaste used to be.

 

[Buckybird]

My only complaint with Betcher is that he just leans on the blitzing crutch too much. Sometimes, and seriouly, just sometimes it's ok to just rush 4 and drop everyone back in coverage. I mean, we never really made Bridgewater drop back and be a QB, almost everything they got was short stuff over the middle and screens, taking advantage of the soft underbelly that comes from blitzing everyone and dropping the rest deep into coverage.

He's just got to widen the repertoire a little which I imagine will come with experience. I get it man, I play madden, it's hard not to call a blitz all the time. You're always thinking if they can just get there this drive is over! lol

Better LB's would also help. You know, like the guy that Dwaste used to be.

Yep. He's blitzing wayyyyy too much IMO.

Remember that Zimmer used to coach in Cincy & they burned our D all night with the screen & throws to the flat to the RB as well. I'm quite sure he stills talks to some of his buddies over there. V

 

[Iceman]

My only complaint with Betcher is that he just leans on the blitzing crutch too much. Sometimes, and seriouly, just sometimes it's ok to just rush 4 and drop everyone back in coverage. I mean, we never really made Bridgewater drop back and be a QB, almost everything they got was short stuff over the middle and screens, taking advantage of the soft underbelly that comes from blitzing everyone and dropping the rest deep into coverage.

He's just got to widen the repertoire a little which I imagine will come with experience. I get it man, I play madden, it's hard not to call a blitz all the time. You're always thinking if they can just get there this drive is over! lol

Better LB's would also help. You know, like the guy that Dwaste used to be.

This statement is where the Cards miss Bowles. I swear he was some type of wizard on play calling as the DC

 

[crisper57]

Jurecki:

Tyrann Mathieu 11 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defensed. Bucannon 8 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defensed, 1 forced fumble.

With stats like this, how did the secondary have their worst day?

 

[Brak]

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[Bert]

Jurecki:

Tyrann Mathieu 11 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defensed. Bucannon 8 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass defensed, 1 forced fumble.

With stats like this, how did the secondary have their worst day?

The answer is right there. 2 "safeties" should not have a combined 19 tackles in a game.
Bethel had 7 and Johnson had 5. That's 31 tackles in one game for 4 players. Too many positive plays for the Vikings offense.

That means runners are getting to the second level and/or passes are getting completed and the 2ndary is tackling them because they weren't covered..

 

[Buckybird]

The answer is right there. 2 "safeties" should not have a combined 19 tackles in a game.
Bethel had 7 and Johnson had 5. That's 31 tackles in one game for 4 players. Too many positive plays for the Vikings offense.

That means runners are getting to the second level and/or passes are getting completed and the 2ndary is tackling them because they weren't covered..

I think this was the worst matchup the Cards could've faced. They & Bettcher were totally focused on stopping AD & not letting him have a big game. It started out looking like he would, but the 2nd half totally shut him down.

When a D has to do that, it's secondary was succeptipal to the pass.

 

[Bert]

I think this was the worst matchup the Cards could've faced. They & Bettcher were totally focused on stopping AD & not letting him have a big game. It started out looking like he would, but the 2nd half totally shut him down.

When a D has to do that, it's secondary was succeptipal to the pass.

Yeah they completely shut down AP in the second half. It was stellar. Betcher has potential. Its unfortunate that his first year as a DC and the growing pains that come with it have come at a time when we have our best shot to win it all, but he is a huge part of it and he's done a good job, clearly. Just could do a little better at times. He's getting it though.

 

[Buckybird]

Yeah they completely shut down AP in the second half. It was stellar. Betcher has potential. Its unfortunate that his first year as a DC and the growing pains that come with it have come at a time when we have our best shot to win it all, but he is a huge part of it and he's done a good job, clearly. Just could do a little better at times. He's getting it though.

The LB corp really limits what he can do defensively, very uninspiring to me. My cousin Buc is playing well, but when blockers lock onto him he's totally overwhelmed in the run game. Minter had a very bad game tonight! Ugh

 

[Bert]

The LB corp really limits what he can do defensively, very uninspiring to me. My cousin Buc is playing well, but when blockers lock onto him he's totally overwhelmed in the run game. Minter had a very bad game tonight! Ugh

I dont even get mad at Minter because he is what he is! He is exactly what I expected him to be from the moment we drafted him, a mediocre LB. He is a decent run stopper but he cant cover anyone and he almost never gets to the QB on his blitz calls.

This is a defense that really needs talent at LB and we just dont have it. That's not minters fault, we just didn't get anybody better and Dwaste never came back.

 

[StLCards]

This is a new defense, you can't say our safeties are 2nd level when you have 4 safeties on the field more than 50% of the time. It was beautiful to see badger and Buc show blitz to the left and Teddy checks out then Rashad and Jefferson blitz right and stuff AP for a 2 yard loss. I love Bowles, but you've gotta also remember how often we neglected hot reads, TEs, RBs, and WR crossing routes. It's a give and take and I'll take our D when Frostee and Redding and JP come back. Lil rambley here but I'll trust in BAs trust of Betcher with all this talent any day against any offense.

 

[Shaggy]

The LB corp really limits what he can do defensively, very uninspiring to me. My cousin Buc is playing well, but when blockers lock onto him he's totally overwhelmed in the run game. Minter had a very bad game tonight! Ugh

Your cousin?

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I would like to ask: WHO THE HELL MAKES DEFENSIVE SUBTITUIONS IN AN OBVIOUS SPIKE THE BALL SITUATION!!???

 

[juza76]

I would like to ask: WHO THE HELL MAKES DEFENSIVE SUBTITUIONS IN AN OBVIOUS SPIKE THE BALL SITUATION!!???

Yeah
They are Smart Like a fox

 

[WisconsinCard]

I dont even get mad at Minter because he is what he is! He is exactly what I expected him to be from the moment we drafted him, a mediocre LB. He is a decent run stopper but he cant cover anyone and he almost never gets to the QB on his blitz calls.

This is a defense that really needs talent at LB and we just dont have it. That's not minters fault, we just didn't get anybody better and Dwaste never came back.

Bingo, what do people expect from a guy who ran 4.8 at the combine. You think all of the sudden he is going to run like DWASTE and run down Cam, Russell, or even Teddy?
:NAGAHAPPEN:

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The defense is fine. I know it would be nice if the other team never gained a yard or scored a point but NFL offenses are pretty good. The Cards knew if the stopped AP they would likely win and they did. Who really cares if TB dinked and dunked his way to 300 yards? The Cards took away the one guy that could beat them.

 

[Buckybird]

Your cousin?

JK. My nickname has been Buck since a child because of my last name Buchanan. 2 different spellings lol

 

[cardpa]

The defense is fine. I know it would be nice if the other team never gained a yard or scored a point but NFL offenses are pretty good. The Cards knew if the stopped AP they would likely win and they did. Who really cares if TB dinked and dunked his way to 300 yards? The Cards took away the one guy that could beat them.

Agree, the Vikings were playing for their playoff life and division title. Did anyone think they were going to just lay down and hand the game to the Cardinals? They also got embarrassed Sunday and I am pretty sure they were gong to make sure that did not happen last night.

Give credit where credit is due, they played hard and had a good game plan. The Cardinals like any good team finds a way to win even when your opponent is giving you all kinds of problems.

 

[Russ Smith]

I dont even get mad at Minter because he is what he is! He is exactly what I expected him to be from the moment we drafted him, a mediocre LB. He is a decent run stopper but he cant cover anyone and he almost never gets to the QB on his blitz calls.

This is a defense that really needs talent at LB and we just dont have it. That's not minters fault, we just didn't get anybody better and Dwaste never came back.

Been said many times but he has ZERO pass rush moves, he just tries to bull hsi way in everytime. When a small RB is there it works, more often than not it doesn't. Peterson stoned him over and over last night, he just keeps trying the same thing and failing.

 

[Russ Smith]

I would like to ask: WHO THE HELL MAKES DEFENSIVE SUBTITUIONS IN AN OBVIOUS SPIKE THE BALL SITUATION!!???

Yeah that was baffling

 

[slanidrac16]

I think this game may have been a bit easier had we just SHOWN blitz, dropped off and made Bridgewater be a QB.

Sometimes a Qb will get sacked BECAUSE the coverage was so good. On there last TD I was screaming "Don't Blitz!". We blitzed , didn't get there and Bridgewater lobbed an easy TD to Wallace.

No matter how good our secondary is we can't ask them to cover the entire field for 5 or 6 seconds.

 

[splitsecond]

I'm not going to fault a rookie DC against hands down one of the best OC's in football in Norv Turner. Norv is absolutely brilliant, and he had the best running back in the game playing out of his mind and his QB playing his best game of the season last night. We bent on the pass game and bottled up AP in the second half. For AP to fish with 69 yds and 3.0 ypc with the fire he was playing with last night is a pretty incredible feat.


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[Stout]

The defense is fine. I know it would be nice if the other team never gained a yard or scored a point but NFL offenses are pretty good. The Cards knew if the stopped AP they would likely win and they did. Who really cares if TB dinked and dunked his way to 300 yards? The Cards took away the one guy that could beat them.

We had a putrid defensive game plan, as if we didn't think we were playing the Vikings or something. Putrid. We let them march up and down the field on us. You can act like it doesn't matter all you want, but the facts are ugly. We gave up a 10-point 4th quarter lead, our offense had to bail us out, and our DC can't seem to properly game plan or make a lot of in-game adjustments. It didn't lose us this game, but it can lose us a win-or-out game in the playoffs. I'm confident our defense can bounce back, but it's not because of Bettcher, that's for sure.

 

[GuernseyCard]

The "D" that gives up an average of 19 points, gave up 20. I was more struck by the fact that we didn't truly adjust to Minny's "D" scheme for this game, which was solid despite a few breakdowns.

 

[crisper57]

Zimmer on the final play:

“You know, it’s a play we practice every week for a situation like that,” Zimmer said, via ESPN.com. “They had more people rushing in that particular play than normally when that happens. So, that was a little bit different. So, then we got beat. In retrospect, we probably could have called something else or kicked the field goal or whatever. … If I knew that was going to happen, I probably would have done something different.”

Really? Have you watched the Cardinals this year? If you have the ball at the end of the game, they're bringing the house!